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Overheard Podcast at National Geographic, Becoming John Gotti's Hitman | Locked Up Abroad

Becoming John Gotti's Hitman | Locked Up Abroad

[music playing]

I was being asked to be John Gotti's hit man.

If I refused, John Gotti would kill me.

I understood that.

The key part of my plan was to get Georgie Grasso

drunk on drugs to keep him loose so there

was no problem killing him.

I'm at the bar, and Georgie Grasso walks in.

I go, hey, Georgie.

Come on.

Come over.

We're all having shots.

And he goes, ah, just one.

I'm going to leave early.

I told him, just have one shot.

It ain't going to kill you.

Have a shot.

And once he puts down the first one, inside me, I say, OK.

I got him.

Once I have Georgie drunk and high,

he's going to want to continue the partying.

And I tell Georgie, go shotgun.

I sit right behind Georgie Grasso's seat,

because from there, I'm going to choose

where I think is comfortable to shoot him in the head.

We're driving down this quiet road.

And he's laughing, and I'm laughing.

As we're having that banter, somewhere

in the back of your conscience, you're saying,

am I going to do this, really?

Am I going to take this guy's life?

And the other side of me is saying, you promised.

You don't obey this order, somebody I trust

is going to kill me, too.

And I'm nervous.

Can I really do this?

I put one into the chamber.

Do it.

[radio chatter]

Don't do it.

Just do it.

He's going to get killed one way or another.

I'm not getting killed for this guy.

I finally picked up the gun.

I stuck it around the headrest.

And I just--

[gunshot]

Nobody said anything.

It kind of really hit me.

Wow, this guy's gone.

I really killed this guy.

As I look back on it, that was the biggest

mistake I ever made in my life.

You just killed yourself with that bullet.

Although you're not in the ground,

you just destroyed your life.

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