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Steve's Youtube Videos - The Language Learning Tripod, The Language Learning Tripod #2 - Time

The Language Learning Tripod #2 - Time

Hi there, Steve Kaufmann here. Today I'm going to do the second in my series of three videos on what I call the tripod, the three legs that you have to stand on to succeed in language learning, the three keys or whatever you want to call them, the trilogy. There are three, the first one was your attitude so I did a video on the kind of attitude you need to have and the kind of attitude you should avoid. Now we're going to talk about time. There are three things you need to succeed in language learning, as I said, attitude, time and the ability to notice. Time is key. It takes a long time to learn a language. There may be the odd genius or artistic person who can do it in 10 days, three months, whatever, but for most people it takes a long time. Luca, along with Richard Simcott and a few others, is one of those really outstanding multilingual people you can find on YouTube. He says it takes him two years to learn a language, so if it takes Lucas two years it takes a long time. Obviously, this depends. It's going to take him two years, perhaps, to learn Japanese. I'm sure that going from Latin to Spanish didn't take him anything like two years. Time is the major resource you have to invest in language learning, so you want to make sure that your use of time is as effective and as enjoyable as possible. It's very important. You've got to spend a lot of time, but you want to do it in ways that are effective and enjoyable and, ultimately, it's you the learner that has to decide how you want to spend that time. Essentially, to learn a language you have to listen, you have to read, you have to speak. You might want to write and I think writing is a good thing to do, but it's more difficult to do very often and you have to review all the nuts and bolts. You review sometimes grammar rules, you review words and that's sort of the studying of the nuts and bolts. So you have to decide, where do you like to spend your time? Do you like to spend your time reviewing flashcards? Do you like to spend your time reviewing grammar rules? Do you like to spend your time reading, listening, writing, speaking? You decide how to spend the time. The key thing is to spend time with the language because when you're spending time with the language that gives your brain a chance to get used this new language and to develop the neuro networks, the connections between neurons. That's going to enable you to speak the language comfortably. Now, in my own case, as you may know if you follow my videos, I like to listen and read for the first little while and then, eventually, start to speak. I'm not too fussed about the grammar rules in the early stages. Just today, for example, I was listening to my Ekho Moskvy and they were talking about the recent disturbances in Warsaw. So I'm getting a Russian perspective on the Euro Cups and the disturbances between fans there, the Russian and Polish fans. I'm listening to it and I understand it all, but when I speak I make mistakes. I still make mistakes with my cases and it doesn't really bother me. I know that I can get in there later on when it matters and I can work on improving them, but I find it enjoyable. I'm interacting with the language. I've spent a lot of time listening and reading and now if I look at my Czech, for example, which I've been at now for about eight or nine months, just today I was reading various news articles, interviews and also chapters from The Good Soldier Svejk on LingQ. The words are already saved in yellow and as I'm reading I'm listening to it and, essentially, I can understand everything. There's the odd word that I miss, but I'm listening to it and I understand it. Obviously, if I listen without reading I have more trouble, but I feel a great sense of satisfaction. I'm doing things that I enjoy doing, I'm interacting with the language and yet in Czech some of the basic things, the ‘this', ‘that' in masculine, feminine and different cases I haven't a clue and it doesn't bother me. I know at a later stage I can go in there and I will focus on getting those right, but in the meantime I'm getting tremendous enjoyment out of doing the things I like to do, which is listen, read and access radio and books, I would understand a movie and so forth and so on. Other people may be motivated differently, so the thing to do is to spend time on the things you enjoy doing.

In my own view, going to a school attending a class is relatively low efficiency, unless you're one on one with the teacher. But if it's a class with 10, 15 or 20 people, you're really not interacting so closely with the language. You're not listening to it all the time. You're not reading it all the time. You're listening to your fellow students. It's not something that I like to do, but it's a social event and some people require it from the point of view of discipline for language learning. So if that's what you like to do, do it. I just think that even if you go to class, what really matters is the time you spend with the language away from class. It's not the time in class. It's the time you spend with the language away from class. The great thing about listening as an activity is that you can create time. I'm doing the dishes, I'm doing it. I'm sitting in the car, I'm doing it. That's a very flexible way of getting in the amount of time you need. People always ask, how much time do you need? Well, it depends on circumstances. I think less than an hour a day you're not going to make much progress, but 45 minutes to an hour a day is a very acceptable amount of time to spend and you can expect to make good progress in an hour a day. I think with my Czech now I'm probably spending more than an hour a day because when you first start it's very tough. It's tiring. It's frustrating. You're forgetting everything. It's less fun so it's hard to get in that hour a day, but now that I can understand so much more, in fact, I'm doing more than an hour a day because I'm downloading stuff from the Internet, reading, listening and having more fun with it, but an hour a day. If you are a full-time student, you can be doing six-seven hours a day. I have always felt the more you do a day that you will learn a lot faster. If you can do five-six hours a day, the intensity of that learning experience means you will learn faster than if you string it out over three years. Like I learned Chinese up to the level of the British Foreign Service Exam in about nine to 10 months, but I was studying six-seven hours a day.

So the more intensive your interaction with the language, the more intensively you spend that time with the language, the quicker you're going to learn. The other thing about it is people always say well, how long will it take? Don't be so hung up about how long it will take, try to make sure you enjoy doing it. That should be the goal. If you enjoy doing it, you'll end up spending enough time and you will learn as quickly as you can learn. So the key is to find activities that you enjoy doing.

Now, some reservations… I think there are some activities that are very enjoyable that are probably, at least in my opinion, less efficient. I think reading and listening is more efficient than watching videos or movies because you are totally dependent on the words. Whereas with the videos and the movies, first of all, the dialogue is less dense, there's a lot more action and, second of all, you're getting a lot of hints. That's not to say you shouldn't watch movies, but make sure you get a balance. I think if you were to spend the next two years doing nothing but watching television in the language you're trying to learn, you wouldn't get as far as if you had the discipline to do a lot more listening and reading. Just to finalize, of course, the amount of time that you're going to be able to spend or are willing to spend is going to be influenced by your attitude. So the three elements, attitude, time and the ability to notice, are all interconnected. We'll see that, too, when I discuss noticing. You know, if an immigrant is not happy to be say in Canada, they wish they could be back somewhere else, they really don't want to mingle with English-speaking people, they somehow feel they should learn the language just in case they get stopped by the police or end up in a hospital, those people are not going to put in the time. If they're very motivated, they're thrilled to be here like I was thrilled to be in Japan, I was thrilled to study Chinese, I was thrilled to be in France, so I was very motivated because I was happy to be there. I wanted to connect with the locals.

Whatever your motivation is, it could be an interest in the culture, in the literature, a spouse, a friend, music, anime in the case of Japanese, if you're motivated you're going to spend the time. So there's a real connection between how motivated you are, the attitude, your ability to enjoy it and the amount of time you spend. So there you have it. You have to spend the time and you have to find ways to make that time enjoyable and effective. Don't worry too much about how long it takes, but make sure that you do things that you enjoy and you find are effective and that can vary from person to person. Thank you for listening, bye for now.

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Hi there, Steve Kaufmann here. Today I'm going to do the second in my series of three videos on what I call the tripod, the three legs that you have to stand on to succeed in language learning, the three keys or whatever you want to call them, the trilogy. ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||الثلاثية Сьогодні я збираюся зробити друге у своїй серії з трьох відео про те, що я називаю штативом, три ноги, на які потрібно стояти, щоб успішно вивчати мову, три клавіші або як ви хочете їх називати, трилогія . There are three, the first one was your attitude so I did a video on the kind of attitude you need to have and the kind of attitude you should avoid. Now we're going to talk about time. There are three things you need to succeed in language learning, as I said, attitude, time and the ability to notice. Time is key. It takes a long time to learn a language. Для вивчення мови потрібно багато часу. There may be the odd genius or artistic person who can do it in 10 days, three months, whatever, but for most people it takes a long time. It|||||||||||||||||||||||||| |||||||فني||||||||||||||||||| Можливо, знайдеться дивний геній чи мистецька людина, яка зможе зробити це за 10 днів, три місяці чи що завгодно, але для більшості людей це займає багато часу. Luca, along with Richard Simcott and a few others, is one of those really outstanding multilingual people you can find on YouTube. لوكا|||ريتشارد سيمكوت|سيمكوت||||||||||المتميزين حقًا||||||| |||||||||||||||multilingual|||||| He says it takes him two years to learn a language, so if it takes Lucas two years it takes a long time. |||||||||||||||لوكاس||||||| Ele diz que demora dois anos a aprender uma língua, por isso, se o Lucas demora dois anos, demora muito tempo. Він каже, що йому потрібно два роки, щоб вивчити мову, тому якщо Лукасу потрібно два роки, це займає багато часу. Obviously, this depends. 显然,这取决于情况。 It's going to take him two years, perhaps, to learn Japanese. I'm sure that going from Latin to Spanish didn't take him anything like two years. Я впевнений, що для переходу з латинської на іспанську йому знадобилося не більше двох років. Time is the major resource you have to invest in language learning, so you want to make sure that your use of time is as effective and as enjoyable as possible. |||الرئيسي||||||||||||||||||||||||||| Час є основним ресурсом, який ви повинні інвестувати у вивчення мови, тому ви хочете переконатися, що ваше використання часу є якомога ефективнішим і приємнішим. It's very important. You've got to spend a lot of time, but you want to do it in ways that are effective and enjoyable and, ultimately, it's you the learner that has to decide how you want to spend that time. ||||||||||||||||||||||في النهاية||||||||||||||| ||||||||||||||||||||||eventually||||||||||||||| Essentially, to learn a language you have to listen, you have to read, you have to speak. ||||لتعلم لغة|||||||||||| You might want to write and I think writing is a good thing to do, but it's more difficult to do very often and you have to review all the nuts and bolts. ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||الأساسيات والتفاصيل||الصواميل والمسامير ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||nuts||bolts Можливо, ви захочете писати, і я вважаю, що писати — це добре, але це важче робити дуже часто, і вам доведеться переглядати всі гайки та болти. 你可能想写作,我认为写作是一件好事,但经常做起来比较困难,你必须检查所有的具体细节。 You review sometimes grammar rules, you review words and that's sort of the studying of the nuts and bolts. Іноді ви переглядаєте граматичні правила, ви повторюєте слова, і це свого роду вивчення гайок і болтів. So you have to decide, where do you like to spend your time? Do you like to spend your time reviewing flashcards? Do you like to spend your time reviewing grammar rules? Do you like to spend your time reading, listening, writing, speaking? You decide how to spend the time. The key thing is to spend time with the language because when you're spending time with the language that gives your brain a chance to get used this new language and to develop the neuro networks, the connections between neurons. |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||neurons 关键是花时间学习语言,因为当你花时间学习语言时,你的大脑就有机会使用这种新语言并发展神经网络,即神经元之间的连接。 That's going to enable you to speak the language comfortably. Now, in my own case, as you may know if you follow my videos, I like to listen and read for the first little while and then, eventually, start to speak. 现在,就我自己而言,如果您关注我的视频,您可能会知道,我喜欢先听和读一段时间,然后最终开始说话。 I'm not too fussed about the grammar rules in the early stages. |||préoccupé|||||||| |||لست مهتماً|||||||| |||concerned|||||||| Just today, for example, I was listening to my Ekho Moskvy and they were talking about the recent disturbances in Warsaw. ||||||||||||||||||troubles|| |||||||||إيخو موسكفي|موسكو||||||||الاضطرابات||وارسو Örneğin daha bugün Ekho Moskvy'yi dinliyordum ve Varşova'daki son karışıklıklardan bahsediyorlardı. Я якраз сьогодні, наприклад, слухав своє «Ехо Москви», і вони розповідали про останні заворушення у Варшаві. So I'm getting a Russian perspective on the Euro Cups and the disturbances between fans there, the Russian and Polish fans. ||||||||اليورو|||||||||||البولندية| ||||||||||||conflicts|||||||| Тож я бачу російську точку зору на єврокубки та конфлікти між уболівальниками, російськими та польськими вболівальниками. 所以我从俄罗斯的角度来看待欧洲杯以及那里的球迷(俄罗斯球迷和波兰球迷)之间的骚乱。 I'm listening to it and I understand it all, but when I speak I make mistakes. I still make mistakes with my cases and it doesn't really bother me. I know that I can get in there later on when it matters and I can work on improving them, but I find it enjoyable. 我知道我可以稍后在重要的时候进入那里,并且我可以努力改进它们,但我发现它很有趣。 I'm interacting with the language. |interacting||| 我正在与语言互动。 I've spent a lot of time listening and reading and now if I look at my Czech, for example, which I've been at now for about eight or nine months, just today I was reading various news articles, interviews and also chapters from The Good Soldier Svejk on LingQ. |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||مختلفة|||||||||||الجندي الطيب شفيك|| Я провів багато часу, слухаючи та читаючи, і тепер, якщо я дивлюся на свою чеську мову, наприклад, якою я володію зараз приблизно вісім чи дев’ять місяців, саме сьогодні я читав різні новинні статті, інтерв’ю та також розділи з The Good Soldier Svejk на LingQ. The words are already saved in yellow and as I'm reading I'm listening to it and, essentially, I can understand everything. Слова вже збережені жовтим кольором, і я, читаючи, слухаю, і, по суті, все розумію. There's the odd word that I miss, but I'm listening to it and I understand it. Obviously, if I listen without reading I have more trouble, but I feel a great sense of satisfaction. I'm doing things that I enjoy doing, I'm interacting with the language and yet in Czech some of the basic things, the ‘this', ‘that' in masculine, feminine and different cases I haven't a clue and it doesn't bother me. |||||||||||||||||||||||||المذكر|المؤنث|||||||فكرة||||| Я роблю речі, які мені подобаються, я взаємодію з мовою, але в чеській мові деякі основні речі, «це», «це» в чоловічому, жіночому та різних відмінках, я не розумію, і це мене не турбує. I know at a later stage I can go in there and I will focus on getting those right, but in the meantime I'm getting tremendous enjoyment out of doing the things I like to do, which is listen, read and access radio and books, I would understand a movie and so forth and so on. |||||||||||||||||||||||||هائل|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| |||||||||||||||||||||||||tremendous|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| 我知道在稍后的阶段我可以进入那里,我会专注于把这些做好,但与此同时,我从做我喜欢做的事情中获得了极大的乐趣,那就是听、阅读和访问广播和书籍,我会理解电影等等。 Other people may be motivated differently, so the thing to do is to spend time on the things you enjoy doing. Інші люди можуть мати іншу мотивацію, тому потрібно приділяти час тому, що вам подобається робити. 其他人的动机可能不同,所以要做的就是把时间花在你喜欢做的事情上。

In my own view, going to a school attending a class is relatively low efficiency, unless you're one on one with the teacher. ||||||||||||نسبيًا||كفاءة منخفضة|||||||| На мій власний погляд, ходити до школи, відвідуючи уроки, є відносно низькою ефективністю, якщо ви не один на один з учителем. 我个人认为,去学校听课效率是比较低的,除非你和老师一对一。 But if it's a class with 10, 15 or 20 people, you're really not interacting so closely with the language. 但如果是一个有 10 人、15 人或 20 人的班级,你与语言的互动确实不会那么密切。 You're not listening to it all the time. 你并不是一直在听。 You're not reading it all the time. You're listening to your fellow students. ||||زملائك الطلاب| 你正在听同学们的讲话。 It's not something that I like to do, but it's a social event and some people require it from the point of view of discipline for language learning. ||||||||||||||||||||||||discipline||| Bu benim yapmaktan hoşlandığım bir şey değil ama sosyal bir etkinlik ve bazı insanlar dil öğrenme disiplini açısından buna ihtiyaç duyuyor. Це не те, що я люблю робити, але це соціальна подія, і деякі люди вимагають її з точки зору дисципліни для вивчення мови. So if that's what you like to do, do it. I just think that even if you go to class, what really matters is the time you spend with the language away from class. 我只是认为,即使你去上课,真正重要的是你在课外花在语言上的时间。 It's not the time in class. It's the time you spend with the language away from class. The great thing about listening as an activity is that you can create time. Чудова річ у слуханні як діяльності полягає в тому, що ви можете створити час. 将聆听作为一项活动的好处在于你可以创造时间。 I'm doing the dishes, I'm doing it. I'm sitting in the car, I'm doing it. That's a very flexible way of getting in the amount of time you need. People always ask, how much time do you need? Well, it depends on circumstances. ||||الظروف Duruma göre değişir. I think less than an hour a day you're not going to make much progress, but 45 minutes to an hour a day is a very acceptable amount of time to spend and you can expect to make good progress in an hour a day. Bence günde bir saatten az bir sürede çok fazla ilerleme kaydedemezsiniz, ancak günde 45 dakika ile bir saat arasında bir süre çok kabul edilebilir bir süredir ve günde bir saat içinde iyi bir ilerleme kaydedebilirsiniz. Я думаю, що менш ніж за годину на день ви не досягнете значного прогресу, але від 45 хвилин до години на день це цілком прийнятна кількість часу, і ви можете розраховувати на хороший прогрес за годину на день. I think with my Czech now I'm probably spending more than an hour a day because when you first start it's very tough. It's tiring. |fatigant |إنه مرهق. It's frustrating. |إنه محبط You're forgetting everything. 你忘记了一切。 It's less fun so it's hard to get in that hour a day, but now that I can understand so much more, in fact, I'm doing more than an hour a day because I'm downloading stuff from the Internet, reading, listening and having more fun with it, but an hour a day. Daha az eğlenceli, bu yüzden günde bir saat ayırmak zor, ama şimdi çok daha fazlasını anlayabiliyorum, aslında günde bir saatten fazlasını yapıyorum çünkü internetten bir şeyler indiriyorum, okuyorum, dinliyorum ve bununla daha çok eğleniyorum, ama günde bir saat. If you are a full-time student, you can be doing six-seven hours a day. I have always felt the more you do a day that you will learn a lot faster. If you can do five-six hours a day, the intensity of that learning experience means you will learn faster than if you string it out over three years. ||||||||||شدة|||||||||||||||||| Günde beş-altı saat yapabiliyorsanız, bu öğrenme deneyiminin yoğunluğu, üç yıla yaydığınızdan daha hızlı öğreneceğiniz anlamına gelir. 如果你每天可以学习五到六个小时,那么这种学习经历的强度意味着你会比坚持三年学得更快。 Like I learned Chinese up to the level of the British Foreign Service Exam in about nine to 10 months, but I was studying six-seven hours a day. Mesela ben Çinceyi İngiliz Dış Hizmet Sınavı seviyesine kadar yaklaşık dokuz-on ayda öğrendim ama günde altı-yedi saat çalışıyordum. 就像我在大约九到十个月内就学会了英国外交考试水平的中文,但我每天学习六到七个小时。

So the more intensive your interaction with the language, the more intensively you spend that time with the language, the quicker you're going to learn. |||||||||||intensively||||||||||||| The other thing about it is people always say well, how long will it take? Don't be so hung up about how long it will take, try to make sure you enjoy doing it. |||مهووس||||||||||||||| 不要太纠结要花多长时间,尽量确保你喜欢这样做。 That should be the goal. |devrait||| If you enjoy doing it, you'll end up spending enough time and you will learn as quickly as you can learn. So the key is to find activities that you enjoy doing. Отже, головне – знайти заняття, які вам подобаються. 所以关键是找到你喜欢做的活动。

Now, some reservations… I think there are some activities that are very enjoyable that are probably, at least in my opinion, less efficient. ||تحفظات||||||||||||||||||||فعّالة ||||||||||||||||||||||efficient Тепер деякі застереження… Я думаю, що є деякі види діяльності, які дуже приємні, але, ймовірно, принаймні на мій погляд, менш ефективні. I think reading and listening is more efficient than watching videos or movies because you are totally dependent on the words. Я вважаю, що читати та слухати ефективніше, ніж переглядати відео чи фільми, тому що ви повністю залежите від слів. Whereas with the videos and the movies, first of all, the dialogue is less dense, there's a lot more action and, second of all, you're getting a lot of hints. |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||indices |||||||||||dialogue|||dense||||||||||||||| ||||||||||||||مكثف|||||||||||||||تلميحات Тоді як у відео та фільмах, по-перше, діалоги менш щільні, там набагато більше дії, а по-друге, ви отримуєте багато підказок. 而在视频和电影中,首先,对话不那么密集,有更多的动作,其次,你会得到很多提示。 That's not to say you shouldn't watch movies, but make sure you get a balance. I think if you were to spend the next two years doing nothing but watching television in the language you're trying to learn, you wouldn't get as far as if you had the discipline to do a lot more listening and reading. Я думаю, що якби ви провели наступні два роки, не роблячи нічого, окрім перегляду телевізора мовою, яку намагаєтеся вивчити, ви не досягли б такого успіху, якби мали дисципліну набагато більше слухати та читати. 我认为,如果你在接下来的两年里除了用你想要学习的语言看电视之外什么都不做,你就不会像你有纪律地进行更多的听力和阅读那样取得进步。 Just to finalize, of course, the amount of time that you're going to be able to spend or are willing to spend is going to be influenced by your attitude. ||إتمام||||||||||||||||||||||||متأثر||| Щоб завершити, звичайно, кількість часу, який ви зможете витратити або готові витратити, буде залежати від вашого ставлення. So the three elements, attitude, time and the ability to notice, are all interconnected. |||عناصر|||||||القدرة على الملاحظة|||مترابطة ببعضها We'll see that, too, when I discuss noticing. 当我讨论注意时我们也会看到这一点。 You know, if an immigrant is not happy to be say in Canada, they wish they could be back somewhere else, they really don't want to mingle with English-speaking people, they somehow feel they should learn the language just in case they get stopped by the police or end up in a hospital, those people are not going to put in the time. ||||||||||||||||||||||||||se mélanger||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| ||||||||||||||||||||||||||الاختلاط مع||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| Bilirsiniz, eğer bir göçmen Kanada'da olmaktan mutlu değilse, başka bir yere dönmek istiyorsa, İngilizce konuşan insanlarla kaynaşmak istemiyorsa, bir şekilde polis tarafından durdurulma veya hastanelik olma ihtimaline karşı dil öğrenmesi gerektiğini hissediyorsa, bu insanlar zaman ayırmayacaktır. Ви знаєте, якщо іммігрантам не подобається бути, скажімо, в Канаді, вони хочуть, щоб вони могли повернутися кудись ще, вони справді не хочуть змішуватися з англомовними людьми, вони чомусь відчувають, що їм варто вивчити мову на всякий випадок. бути зупиненими поліцією або опинитися в лікарні, ці люди не збираються витрачати час. If they're very motivated, they're thrilled to be here like I was thrilled to be in Japan, I was thrilled to study Chinese, I was thrilled to be in France, so I was very motivated because I was happy to be there. |||||متحمسون جداً|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| |||||||||||||||||||||||||excited|||||||||||||||| 如果他们非常有动力,他们会很高兴来到这里,就像我很高兴来到日本,我很高兴学习中文,我很高兴来到法国一样,所以我非常有动力,因为我很高兴来到那里。 I wanted to connect with the locals. ||||||السكان المحليين

Whatever your motivation is, it could be an interest in the culture, in the literature, a spouse, a friend, music, anime in the case of Japanese, if you're motivated you're going to spend the time. ||||||||||||||||زوج/زوجة|||||||||||||||||| So there's a real connection between how motivated you are, the attitude, your ability to enjoy it and the amount of time you spend. 因此,你的积极性、态度、享受它的能力以及你花费的时间之间存在着真正的联系。 So there you have it. You have to spend the time and you have to find ways to make that time enjoyable and effective. Don't worry too much about how long it takes, but make sure that you do things that you enjoy and you find are effective and that can vary from person to person. 不要太担心需要多长时间,但要确保你做的事情是你喜欢的并且你发现是有效的,并且这可能因人而异。 Thank you for listening, bye for now. 感谢您的聆听,现在再见。