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Sounds good. And go back to something you mentioned just there about some struggles that you've had over the years. E volte para algo que você mencionou sobre algumas lutas que você teve ao longo dos anos. Ve az önce bahsettiğiniz, yıllar içinde yaşadığınız bazı mücadelelerle ilgili konuya geri dönelim. I watched again, I actually watched this video when you first recorded it I think around six months ago, a video on your YouTube channel, where you share, uh, your struggles that you've had over the years.

Um, I think, I just want to commend you for posting it one, because it's very honest, very open. Um, creo, sólo quiero elogiarte por publicarlo uno, porque es muy honesto, muy abierto. Hum, eu acho, eu só quero parabenizá-lo por postar um, porque é muito honesto, muito aberto. Я думаю, я просто хочу похвалить вас за то, что вы опубликовали это, потому что это очень честно, очень открыто. And I think... first off, I'm very sorry that you've been going through these struggles. E eu acho... em primeiro lugar, eu sinto muito que você esteja passando por essas lutas. Ve bence... öncelikle, bu zorlukları yaşadığınız için çok üzgünüm. I think though, for someone like you to post this kind of video, where, you know, you talk about burnout, you talk about debt, uh, divorce, depression, you know, it's really honest.

Uh, it it's great that someone like you is, is doing this because, you know, mental health issues are issues we all struggle with. Uh, é ótimo que alguém como você esteja fazendo isso porque, você sabe, problemas de saúde mental são problemas com os quais todos lutamos. And now is an especially difficult time for everyone in the world. So thank you for posting it. Um, It's a video that I see is video, one in a series. Uh, can you tell us a bit about that?

Are you going to, is this going to be a series where you kind of share your journey and discuss it, will you have guests on? Você vai, esta será uma série em que você meio que compartilha sua jornada e discute, você terá convidados? Bu, yolculuğunuzu paylaştığınız ve tartıştığınız bir dizi mi olacak, konuklarınız olacak mı? Interviews? Görüşmeler mi? What's uh, what's the plan for that? Bunun için planın nedir?

Benny: Yeah. So essentially, like you said, I went through just some very difficult things all at once and that completely zapped my energy. Dus in wezen, zoals je zei, ging ik door een paar heel moeilijke dingen in één keer en dat deed mijn energie volledig leeglopen. Então, essencialmente, como você disse, eu passei por algumas coisas muito difíceis de uma só vez e isso acabou com minha energia.

And it's why I've essentially had to take a, a break from language learning, which very fortunately I've been able to get back into in recent months. İşte bu yüzden dil öğrenmeye ara vermek zorunda kaldım, neyse ki son aylarda tekrar başlayabildim. Um, and what I've found, people really appreciated sharing that because I think one of the difficulties with people who make content online, like myself, is there's a tendency to share the ideal moments. İnsanlar bunu paylaşmayı gerçekten takdir ettiler çünkü benim gibi internette içerik üreten insanların karşılaştığı zorluklardan birinin ideal anları paylaşma eğilimi olduğunu düşünüyorum.

So the the most stereotypical version of this is you imagining someone posting on Instagram and only posting the happy highlights of their life. Bunun en basmakalıp versiyonu, Instagram'da paylaşım yapan ve yalnızca hayatının mutlu anlarını paylaşan birini hayal etmenizdir. And especially in the pandemic year, that's been very difficult for a lot of people. Ve özellikle pandemi yılında, bu pek çok insan için çok zor oldu. It can feel like everybody else is doing better than you, everybody's lives are happier.

Everybody, uh, has no struggles that they're going through. Herkesin yaşadığı bir mücadele yok. And realistically, as I've opened up before I made the public YouTube video, as I opened up to friends, I started to see more and more that a lot of them are going through their own struggles that I was just completely unaware of. E, realisticamente, como eu me abri antes de fazer o vídeo público no YouTube, quando me abri para os amigos, comecei a ver cada vez mais que muitos deles estão passando por suas próprias lutas que eu desconhecia completamente. Ve gerçekçi olmak gerekirse, herkese açık YouTube videosunu yapmadan önce arkadaşlarıma açıldıkça, birçoğunun benim tamamen farkında olmadığım kendi mücadelelerinden geçtiğini daha fazla görmeye başladım. And it's just the, the stigma that, you know, sharing that life is difficult, it's very hard for a lot of people. So in starting that on YouTube, a lot of people have said they really appreciated it. And they'd like to hear, because right now I'm in a much better place in a lot of ways. Y les gustaría oírlo, porque ahora mismo estoy mucho mejor en muchos aspectos. E eles gostariam de ouvir, porque agora estou em um lugar muito melhor de várias maneiras. I've, uh, I'm about two or three months away from completely clearing a debt that was a six figure debt that Tengo, eh, estoy a unos dos o tres meses de borrar completamente una deuda que era una deuda de seis cifras que Eu, uh, estou a cerca de dois ou três meses de liquidar completamente uma dívida que era uma dívida de seis dígitos que Altı haneli bir borcu tamamen kapatmama yaklaşık iki ya da üç ay kaldı.

I managed to get myself in, in New York. Consegui entrar, em Nova York. New York'ta kendimi içeri sokmayı başardım. So there are practical things about that. Um, I was, uh, diagnosed with clinical depression and I had to actually take medicine for it. Whereas right now I'm in much, much better spirits. Not, I'm not exactly all the way back to where I was before, but I'm in a much, much better place. No, no he vuelto exactamente a donde estaba antes, pero estoy en un lugar mucho, mucho mejor.

And there are techniques that have helped me with that. And there are life philosophies that I've learned that I think I can, I can share in a, in a public space in a way that may help other people. And especially in this last year, I know a lot of people are... because my struggles were completely, they have nothing to do with the pandemic. E principalmente neste último ano, sei que muita gente está... porque minhas lutas foram completas, não tem nada a ver com a pandemia.

The worst year of my life was 2018. So before any of this hit, so I've kind of been ahead of this curve of the world. Así que antes de que nada de esto golpeó, así que he sido una especie de por delante de esta curva del mundo. Então, antes disso acontecer, eu meio que estive à frente dessa curva do mundo. Yani tüm bunlar yaşanmadan önce, dünyadaki bu eğrinin bir nevi önündeydim. All going through this collective suffering. Todos passando por esse sofrimento coletivo. Hepsi bu kolektif acıdan geçiyor. And I've been able to work through it to, to a place where I'm much happier in my life. Y he sido capaz de trabajar a través de él a, a un lugar donde estoy mucho más feliz en mi vida. E eu fui capaz de trabalhar com isso, para um lugar onde eu sou muito mais feliz na minha vida. And I'm much more honest with myself and others, because for a very long time, during those struggles, I was putting on a brave face. Y soy mucho más sincera conmigo misma y con los demás, porque durante mucho tiempo, durante esas luchas, ponía cara de valiente. E sou muito mais honesto comigo mesmo e com os outros, porque por muito tempo, durante essas lutas, eu estava fazendo cara de bravo. Kendime ve başkalarına karşı çok daha dürüstüm çünkü bu mücadeleler sırasında çok uzun bir süre cesur bir yüz ifadesi takındım.

And that is very unhealthy for a lot of reasons. But for people listening to the podcast, obviously the most direct thing is I was a bad language learner for several years because I just did not have the energy. Mas para as pessoas que ouvem o podcast, obviamente a coisa mais direta é que fui um mau aprendiz de idiomas por vários anos porque simplesmente não tinha energia. I didn't have the energy. I didn't have the motivation. I didn't have the confidence because so many things were going wrong in my life.

And I'm gaining that back now. Y ahora lo estoy recuperando. E estou recuperando isso agora. И сейчас я набираю обороты. So I want to share that experience with other people who've maybe gone through something like a major heartbreak like I did, or something along those lines and seeing how can they get their mojo back. Así que quiero compartir esa experiencia con otras personas que quizá hayan pasado por algo como un gran desengaño amoroso como yo, o algo parecido, y ver cómo pueden recuperar su mojo. Então, quero compartilhar essa experiência com outras pessoas que talvez tenham passado por algo como um grande desgosto como eu passei, ou algo nesse sentido e ver como eles podem recuperar seu mojo. And, um, at the moment the plan is to, uh, to just share each aspect cause there's, there are multiple major life challenges I went through. Y, um, por el momento el plan es, uh, sólo para compartir cada aspecto porque hay, hay múltiples desafíos importantes de la vida que pasé. E, hm, no momento o plano é, uh, apenas compartilhar cada aspecto porque existem vários grandes desafios de vida pelos quais passei. Ve şu anda planım, her bir yönü paylaşmak çünkü yaşadığım birden fazla büyük yaşam zorluğu var.

So kind of separating them out and saying, well, here's how I dealt with this one. Así que los separé y dije: "Bueno, así es como me enfrenté a este". Então, meio que separá-los e dizer, bem, aqui está como eu lidei com isso. Так что я как бы отделяю их друг от друга и говорю: "Вот как я справился с этой проблемой". Bu yüzden onları ayırmak ve "İşte bununla nasıl başa çıktım?" demek istedim. Here's how I dealt with that one. And also being transparent with the fact that I'm still in a part of the process. Cause I don't want to, um, also fall back to what I said before of being just another guy on Instagram saying, Oh, life is amazing and I've solved all my problems and everything's perfect now.

I think part of this, which is going to be a learning process for me as well, is to also be transparent about what I'm still dealing with and to show people that that's okay. And that life is never just about a black and white, either you're in a bad place or you're in a good place, but there is a process. Ve hayatın asla sadece siyah ve beyazdan ibaret olmadığını, ya kötü bir yerdesinizdir ya da iyi bir yerdesinizdir, ancak bir süreç vardır.

And then if people see, as I share the, even the current struggles I'm still going through that maybe that can help them feel like they're not as alone. Y si la gente ve que comparto las luchas por las que sigo pasando, quizá eso les ayude a sentir que no están tan solos. Ve eğer insanlar benim hala yaşadığım zorlukları paylaştığımı görürlerse, belki bu onların yalnız olmadıklarını hissetmelerine yardımcı olabilir. And I'm absolutely not the first person to ever do this on YouTube, but I think the more people normalize talking about mental health issues and going through tough, tough life struggles, then the better it can be for everybody. E eu absolutamente não sou a primeira pessoa a fazer isso no YouTube, mas acho que quanto mais as pessoas normalizam falando sobre problemas de saúde mental e passando por lutas duras e difíceis na vida, melhor pode ser para todos.

And then of course, uh, at the underlying side of all of this will be that ultimately my goal is to get my mental energy back, so it can be a better language learner. Y luego, por supuesto, eh, en el lado subyacente de todo esto será que en última instancia, mi objetivo es recuperar mi energía mental, por lo que puede ser un mejor estudiante de idiomas. Ve tabii ki tüm bunların altında yatan şey, nihayetinde amacımın zihinsel enerjimi geri kazanmak ve böylece daha iyi bir dil öğrenicisi olabilmek. So that theme is always going to be there that, you know, this long-term goal for my, um, my mental ability to focus and things will help me become a language learner. Então, esse tema sempre estará lá, você sabe, esse objetivo de longo prazo para minha, hum, minha capacidade mental de me concentrar e as coisas me ajudarão a me tornar um aprendiz de idiomas. Yani bu tema her zaman orada olacak, bilirsiniz, zihinsel odaklanma yeteneğim için bu uzun vadeli hedef ve şeyler bir dil öğrenicisi olmama yardımcı olacak.

Cause I know a lot of people followed me initially because of that. They want to, they want to hear my language learning advice. And so that's kind of my plan. E esse é o meu plano. Maybe eventually I'll bring people on to interview and such, but I think for the moment, the most important part is sharing the personal story. Talvez eventualmente eu traga pessoas para entrevistas e tal, mas acho que, no momento, a parte mais importante é compartilhar a história pessoal. Возможно, со временем я буду приглашать людей для интервью и тому подобного, но на данный момент я считаю, что самое важное - это поделиться личной историей. Belki eninde sonunda röportaj yapmaları için insanlar getireceğim ama şu an için en önemli kısmın kişisel hikayeyi paylaşmak olduğunu düşünüyorum. So that's just going to be taking the series of like here's how ident dealt with financial challenges. Así que eso es sólo va a tomar la serie de como aquí es cómo ident hizo frente a los desafíos financieros. Dus dat gaat gewoon over de reeks van zoals hier is hoe ident omging met financiële uitdagingen. Então isso vai levar a série de como a ident lidou com os desafios financeiros. Yani bu, kimliğin finansal zorluklarla nasıl başa çıktığı gibi bir dizi olacak.

Here's how I dealt with, uh, having very, very low spirits. Aqui está como eu lidei com, uh, ter muito, muito baixo astral. And I think, uh, for, you know, part of that is problems. I can't solve people just need to have, um, professional help with dealing with something like depression, but it may be a lighter version of that. No puedo resolver que la gente sólo necesite ayuda profesional para tratar algo como la depresión, pero puede ser una versión más ligera de eso. Eu não posso resolver as pessoas só precisam ter, hum, ajuda profissional para lidar com algo como depressão, mas pode ser uma versão mais leve disso. People are just feeling low motivation. I can help them to get to a better place.

Elle: Excellent. Well, I am really looking forward to and will be following this series and I'll also pop a link in the description for anyone else to your channel and your website and everything too. Bem, eu estou realmente ansioso e estarei seguindo esta série e eu também vou colocar um link na descrição para qualquer outra pessoa para o seu canal e seu site e tudo também. Congratulations on almost clearing that debt. Поздравляю с тем, что вы почти избавились от долгов. That's, that's huge. That's a huge, that's a huge milestone for sure.

And isn't it just the way, everything seems to happen all at once, but, um, Like I said, it's, I think it's fantastic that, that you've been so and are being so open about it. Y no es sólo la forma, todo parece suceder a la vez, pero, um, Como he dicho, es, creo que es fantástico que, que han sido tan y están siendo tan abierto al respecto. E não é apenas o jeito, tudo parece acontecer de uma só vez, mas, como eu disse, é fantástico que você tenha sido tão e esteja sendo tão aberto sobre isso. And, uh, I was reading the comments too, and yeah, people are, people are ready for this conversation, you know, you're kind of championing this. E, uh, eu estava lendo os comentários também, e sim, as pessoas estão, as pessoas estão prontas para essa conversa, você sabe, você está defendendo isso.

Let's get rid of the stigma. That's that's great. Um, so apart from that series, uh, any projects, any events for the rest of the year?

Benny: Of course it's, it's difficult this year to, um, to be planning for events, but very fortunately, at least in the States, the rollout of the vaccines have made it a lot easier to begin making plans.

And I've started to see the hints of, uh, larger events forming, but ultimately I'm going to take most of the next year to continue my own personal mental health recovery. E eu comecei a ver as dicas de, uh, eventos maiores se formando, mas no final das contas vou levar a maior parte do próximo ano para continuar minha própria recuperação de saúde mental pessoal. And then when it comes to languages, uh, at the moment, I'm, uh, trying to see if I can get my mind to back with a single language first. E então quando se trata de idiomas, uh, no momento, eu estou, uh, tentando ver se consigo fazer minha mente voltar com um único idioma primeiro.

So I've decided to make that the Irish language and I, if I can, it's bee, uh,  it's come in waves, that there are some weeks that I can do several days in a row where I I'm fully motivated and I'm able to push forward with, uh, doing plenty of study. Así que he decidido hacer que la lengua irlandesa y yo, si puedo, es abeja, eh, que ha llegado en oleadas, que hay algunas semanas que puedo hacer varios días seguidos en los que estoy totalmente motivado y soy capaz de empujar hacia adelante con, eh, haciendo un montón de estudio. Então decidi fazer disso a língua irlandesa e eu, se puder, é abelha, uh, vem em ondas, que há algumas semanas que posso fazer vários dias seguidos em que estou totalmente motivado e Eu sou capaz de avançar com, uh, fazendo muito estudo. And I have a language lesson that goes very well and maybe I'll even upload a video in the language. E eu tenho uma aula de idioma que vai muito bem e talvez eu até envie um vídeo no idioma.

And then other weeks where I don't have that same momentum. E depois outras semanas em que não tenho o mesmo impulso. So I'm trying to see if I can find something that's more sustainable in the longterm. And once I've been able to do that successfully with one language, then I'll be able to reactivate all my languages at that same momentum and have this longer term project of like, I'm mostly, and I think this is one of the issues I faced Y una vez que he sido capaz de hacer eso con éxito con un idioma, entonces voy a ser capaz de reactivar todos mis idiomas en ese mismo impulso y tener este proyecto a largo plazo de como, estoy en su mayoría, y creo que este es uno de los problemas que enfrenté E uma vez que eu tenha conseguido fazer isso com sucesso com um idioma, então poderei reativar todos os meus idiomas no mesmo momento e ter esse projeto de longo prazo do tipo, estou principalmente, e acho que esse é um dos problemas que enfrentei

while times were hard was you, you tend to be a lot more short-sighted and I just really wanted all my problems to be solved overnight if there was ever a solution for that. mientras los tiempos eran duros eras tú, tiendes a ser mucho más corto de miras y yo sólo quería que todos mis problemas se resolvieran de la noche a la mañana, si es que alguna vez hubo una solución para eso. enquanto os tempos eram difíceis era você, você tende a ser muito mais míope e eu realmente queria que todos os meus problemas fossem resolvidos da noite para o dia, se houvesse uma solução para isso. Whereas now I can be a lot more long-term focused and thinking, you know, I'm not going to be the polyglot I was by tomorrow, but maybe I can be the same level of polyglot that I was before all these problems hit me a year and a half from that. Mientras que ahora puedo estar mucho más centrado a largo plazo y pensar, ya sabes, no voy a ser el políglota que era para mañana, pero quizás pueda ser el mismo nivel de políglota que era antes de que todos estos problemas me golpearan dentro de un año y medio. Considerando que agora eu posso ser muito mais focado e pensando a longo prazo, você sabe, eu não vou ser o poliglota que eu era amanhã, mas talvez eu possa ser o mesmo nível de poliglota que eu era antes de todos esses problemas acontecerem me um ano e meio disso.

And if that's the plan, what does that look like? And that for, for me right now, it looks like getting my Irish, um, momentum and scheduling and like, uh, um, how to distribute my energy throughout the day. E isso, para mim agora, parece como conseguir meu irlandês, hum, impulso e programação e como, uh, hum, como distribuir minha energia ao longo do dia. So I'm definitely able to use this language and then move on to other languages. And then, uh, hopefully sometime next year as the world is opening up again, I can start to consider going back into travel mode because that's been something I've truly missed is living in those other countries, experiencing those cultures.

And of course, before I would do that, I would have the language learning project because learning a language ahead of a trip has always been a better experience for me. Cause I don't, I don't want to be, I don't want to be studying flashcards or something when I'm in the country. I want to be just out and enjoying my time with people there.

So I would, I would share that experience like I did originally on the blog and get back into travel mode and, um, that's kind of my, my long-term plan. And of course, um, um, finding my energy with creating content again and making that mental health series and just making videos I enjoy making that are multi-lingual and using special effects and all these other cool tricks that I've picked up in the last couple of years.

Elle: So fun, I love your YouTube videos. They're really fun. Especially the last one, the Aladdin one  was as lots of fun. So yeah, you can really see that, uh, you you're enjoying it too. So, um, I am looking forward to following your progress, your journey. And as I said, I will pop the link to your YouTube channel and also your website in the description for anyone else who would like to follow along too. Uh, Benny thank you so much for joining me today.

It was a pleasure.

Benny: Thank you very much for having me. I hope I hope it was helpful to those listening.

Elle: Thanks, Benny bye-bye.

Benny: Bye-bye.