Thirty-one: Skiing the Vasaloppet Einunddreißig: Skifahren beim Vasaloppet Treinta y uno: Esquí en la Vasaloppet سی و یک: اسکی روی Vasaloppet Trente et un : Skier sur la Vasaloppet Trentuno: Sciare alla Vasaloppet サーティワンヴァザロペット・スキー 서른하나: 서른하나: 바살로펫 스키 타기 Trzydzieści jeden: Jazda na nartach na Vasaloppet Trinta e um: Esquiar no Vasaloppet Тридцать один: Катание на лыжах на Васалоппет Trettioen: Skidåkning i Vasaloppet Otuz bir: Vasaloppet'te Kayak Тридцять один: Катання на лижах на Васалоппет 三十一：瓦萨滑雪场 三十一：瓦薩滑雪場

Steve: Hi, Jill.

Jill: Hi, Steve.

Steve: How are you today?

Jill: Good, thanks.

How are you?

Steve: Good, thanks. We are trying out a new sound box here because I had some complaints about the quality of my sound and I went looking for different solutions like soundcards and we ended up with this external sound box. Estamos probando una nueva caja de sonido aquí porque tenía algunas quejas sobre la calidad de mi sonido y busqué diferentes soluciones como tarjetas de sonido y terminamos con esta caja de sonido externa. 我们正在这里试用一个新的音箱，因为我对我的声音质量有一些抱怨，我去寻找不同的解决方案，比如声卡，我们最终得到了这个外部音箱。 Let’s hear your voice now. Şimdi sesini duyalım. Say something, Jill.

Jill: It’s a beautiful day today.

Steve: Looks like you are showing up on our little graph here. Steve: Parece que estás apareciendo en nuestro pequeño gráfico aquí. Steve: Buradaki küçük grafiğimizi gösteriyor gibisin. Стів: Схоже, ви з'явилися на нашому маленькому графіку. 史蒂夫：看起来你出现在我们这里的小图表上。 Yeah, this is obviously our usual EnglishlingQ Podcast. Evet, bu bizim normal İngilizce konuşmamızdır. 是的，这显然是我们通常的EnglishlingQ Podcast。 We do it because we hope that the combination of sound and text helps our learners and we also hope that we attract new learners to The Linguist System. Bunu yapıyoruz çünkü ses ve metin kombinasyonunun öğrencilerimize yardımcı olmasını umuyoruz ve ayrıca yeni öğrenenleri Dilbilim Sistemine çekmeyi umuyoruz. 我们这样做是因为我们希望声音和文本的结合能够帮助我们的学习者，我们也希望我们能够吸引新的学习者加入 The Linguist System。 You know, just as an aside, it is very encouraging on my blog to get comments from people who very much agree with the approach that we’ve taken to language learning. Biliyorsunuz, bir kenara, blog'umda, dil öğrenimine aldığımız yaklaşıma çok katkısı olan kişilerden yorum almak çok cesaret verici. Знаєте, до речі, у моєму блозі дуже приємно отримувати коментарі від людей, які дуже погоджуються з підходом, який ми застосували до вивчення мови. 你知道，顺便说一句，在我的博客上得到那些非常同意我们在语言学习方面所采取的方法的人的评论是非常令人鼓舞的。 Some of them are involved in English teaching. 他们中的一些人参与了英语教学。 I had one person come from Japan and say how discouraged he is at the methods used in the school where they are teaching English and how we are on the right track in terms of making language learning fun and natural and aiding people to acquire words and phrases without going overboard on grammar explanations. Una persona vino de Japón y dijo lo desanimado que está por los métodos utilizados en la escuela donde enseñan inglés y cómo estamos en el camino correcto en términos de hacer que el aprendizaje de idiomas sea divertido y natural y ayudar a las personas a adquirir palabras y frases. sin exagerar con las explicaciones gramaticales. J'ai fait venir une personne du Japon et a dit à quel point il était découragé par les méthodes utilisées dans l'école où ils enseignent l'anglais et comment nous sommes sur la bonne voie pour rendre l'apprentissage des langues amusant et naturel et aider les gens à acquérir des mots et des phrases. sans tomber dans l'excès d'explications grammaticales. Japonya'dan bir kişi geldi ve İngilizce öğrettikleri okulda kullanılan yöntemlerden ne kadar cesaretinin kırıldığını ve dil öğrenimini eğlenceli ve doğal hale getirme ve gramer açıklamalarına aşırıya kaçmadan insanların kelimeleri ve cümleleri edinmelerine yardımcı olma konusunda doğru yolda olduğumuzu söyledi. 我有一个来自日本的人说他对学校使用的英语教学方法感到沮丧，以及我们如何在使语言学习变得有趣和自然以及帮助人们获得单词和短语方面走上正轨不过度解释语法。 We are The Linguist www.thelinguist.com and this is our Podcast. What should we talk about today? 我们今天应该谈什么？ What do you want to talk about, Jill? 吉尔，你想谈什么？

Jill: Well, I’m fairly curious about something you were going to do recently. Jill: Bueno, tengo bastante curiosidad por algo que ibas a hacer recientemente. Jill: Son zamanlarda yapacağın bir şeyi merak ediyorum. 吉尔：嗯，我很好奇你最近要做什么。 I think probably most people listening to this Podcast probably have never heard of it and so I thought maybe you could talk a little bit about that and that is the Vasaloppet in Sweden, a large cross-country skiing race they have every year. Muhtemelen bu Podcast'i dinleyen insanların çoğunun muhtemelen bunu hiç duymadığını düşünüyorum ve belki de bunun hakkında biraz konuşabileceğinizi düşündüm ve bu her sene İsveç'teki Vasaloppet, her yıl sahip oldukları büyük bir cross-country kayak yarışı. 我想可能大多数收听这个播客的人可能从未听说过它，所以我想也许你可以谈谈这个，那就是瑞典的 Vasaloppet，他们每年都会举办一场大型越野滑雪比赛。 I know you and a couple of other men in the office here were going to participate in this 90 kilometer race last month. 我知道你和这里办公室的其他几个人将参加上个月的这场 90 公里赛跑。

Steve: Right. Well, first of all, the Vasaloppet is perhaps the largest ski race in the world; one of the most famous; 15,000 participants. It has a long tradition because it commemorates an event that happened 500 years ago when Gustav Vasa who was going to become the King of Sweden, wasn’t yet the King of Sweden, was escaping from his enemies the Danes, the wicked, nasty Danes. Es hat eine lange Tradition, weil es an ein Ereignis erinnert, das vor 500 Jahren stattfand, als Gustav Wasa, der König von Schweden werden sollte, noch nicht König von Schweden war, vor seinen Feinden, den Dänen, den bösen, bösen Dänen, floh . Uzun bir geleneğe sahip çünkü 500 yıl önce, İsveç Kralı değil, İsveç Kralı değil, Gustav Vasa'nın düşmanlarından kaçan Danimarkalı, iğrenç Danimarkalılardan kaçan bir olayı anıyor. . Він має давню традицію, тому що він вшановує подію, яка сталася 500 років тому, коли Густав Ваза, який збирався стати королем Швеції, ще не був королем Швеції, тікав від своїх ворогів датчан, злих, мерзенних данців. . 它有着悠久的传统，因为它是为了纪念 500 年前发生的一件事，当时将成为瑞典国王但还不是瑞典国王的古斯塔夫·瓦萨 (Gustav Vasa) 正在逃离他的敌人丹麦人，邪恶、讨厌的丹麦人. I think some farmers in the area around this town of Mora…he was actually escaping…went and found him and persuaded him to come back and lead a resistance to the Danes, which he did. Creo que algunos granjeros en el área alrededor de esta ciudad de Mora de la que en realidad estaba escapando fueron y lo encontraron y lo persuadieron para que regresara y liderara una resistencia contra los daneses, lo cual hizo. Sanırım bu Mora kasabasının etrafındaki bazı çiftçiler… aslında kaçıyordu… onu bulup buldu ve geri dönüp Danimarkalılara karşı direnişe liderlik etmesine ikna etti. The thing is he was escaping on skis. Mesele şu ki, kayaklardan kaçıyordu. Справа в тому, що він тікав на лижах. I mean the legend is full; 15 different versions but somehow or other out of this has come this Vasaloppet ski race, which is 90 kilometers long and attracts people from all over the world, so that’s the race. Yani efsane dolu; 15 farklı versiyon ama bunun bir şekilde ya da birkaçı, 90 kilometre uzunluğunda olan ve dünyanın her yerinden insanları çeken bu Vasaloppet kayak yarışı oldu, bu yüzden yarış. Я маю на увазі, що легенда повна; 15 різних версій, але так чи інакше з цього виникла лижна гонка Vasaloppet, яка має довжину 90 кілометрів і приваблює людей з усього світу, так що це гонка. 我的意思是传说已满； Vasaloppet 滑雪比赛有 15 个不同的版本，但不知何故出现了，它长 90 公里，吸引了来自世界各地的人们，这就是比赛。 Now how did we get involved? Şimdi nasıl katıldık? Our lumber company K.P. Kereste firmamız KP Wood buys lumber, wood, from a number of sawmills in the general area. Wood compra madera aserrada, madera, de varios aserraderos en el área general. Ahşap, genel alandaki kerestelerden kereste, odun satın alır. Two of our people were over there and they were probably drinking a fair amount of aquavit, which is the local drink, and they all decided they would go in this 90 kilometer race. Halkımızın ikisi oradaydı ve muhtemelen yerel içki olan çok miktarda aquavit içiyorlardı ve hepsi bu 90 kilometrelik yarışa katılacaklarına karar verdiler. Там були двоє наших людей, і вони, напевно, пили чимало аквавіту, місцевого напою, і всі вони вирішили, що підуть на цю 90-кілометрову гонку. When they came back and told me that and they said that they had also suggested that I should go in and then I agreed so we were all committed to going in the race. Geri döndüklerinde bana söylediler ve onlar da içeri girmem gerektiğini önerdiler ve sonra ben de aynı fikirdeydik.

Jill: Now, I don’t think any of you were big cross-country skiers. Jill: Ahora, no creo que ninguno de ustedes fuera un gran esquiador de fondo. Jill: Şimdi, hiçbirinizin büyük kros kayakçı olduğunu düşünmüyorum. I think you have done a little bit but I think for sure the other two weren’t. Creo que has hecho un poco, pero estoy seguro de que los otros dos no lo hicieron. Je pense que vous avez fait un peu, mais je pense que les deux autres ne l'étaient certainement pas. Sanırım biraz yaptın ama sanırım diğer ikisi de değildi.

Steve: I think we had all done some and so this became a challenge. Steve: Sanırım hepimiz bir şeyler yaptık ve bu bir meydan okuma haline geldi. I think I even made reference on my blog to, you know, just how important it is to have a challenge and to have some goals. Blogumda bile, bir meydan okuma ve bazı hedeflere sahip olmanın ne kadar önemli olduğunu bildiğimi düşünüyorum. Я думаю, що я навіть згадував у своєму блозі, як важливо мати виклик і мати певні цілі. 我想我什至在我的博客上提到过，你知道，有挑战和有一些目标是多么重要。 We had a goal. We wanted to do well in this race and so we got busy. Bu yarışta iyi yapmak istedik ve bu yüzden meşgul olduk. We looked up on the Internet and found out that they recommended that you spend a lot of time training because 90 kilometers of skiing, you know, your body has to be ready for it. Buscamos en Internet y averiguamos que te recomendaban dedicar mucho tiempo a entrenar porque 90 kilómetros de esquí, ya sabes, tu cuerpo tiene que estar preparado. One of the things they recommended was that you do, if possible, 500 kilometers of training so we set out to do a lot of training. We hadn’t done a lot of cross-country skiing and we invested in new skis, you know, as inevitably happens and I spent a lot of time skiing. Çok fazla kros kayak yapmadık ve yeni kayaklara yatırım yaptık, bilirsin, kaçınılmaz olarak ve çok fazla zaman geçirdim.

Let me just take my own situation. Let me just take my own situation. Pozwolę sobie wziąć pod uwagę moją własną sytuację. Bırak kendi durumumu kendim alalım. 我就拿我自己的情况来说吧。 I skied a lot here on the local mountains and then I took a week off and I went up to a resort in the interior of BC called Silver Star, which you are familiar with. Esquié mucho aquí en las montañas locales y luego me tomé una semana libre y fui a un resort en el interior de BC llamado Silver Star, que usted conoce. Yerel dağlarda burada çok eğlendim ve bir hafta ara verdim ve tanıdık olduğunuz Silver Star adlı BC'nin iç kısmına gittim. Я багато катався на лижах тут, у місцевих горах, а потім узяв тижневу перерву і піднявся на курорт у внутрішній частині Британської Колумбії під назвою Silver Star, який вам знайомий. I had a fabulous time. Tuve un tiempo fabuloso. Harika bir zaman geçirdim. I went out every day and I skied for four or five hours and it was beautiful and, of course, cross-country skiing is hard work so four hours of this and that was it, you know. Я виходив щодня і катався на лижах чотири-п’ять годин, і це було красиво, і, звісно, бігові лижі – це важка робота, тому чотири години цього і все, знаєте. I did some downhill skiing while I was there as well but I just had a fabulous time. Я також катався на гірських лижах, але я просто чудово провів час. I did my 500 kilometers and I was in great shape for this race; ready to go. Unfortunately in my case, two days before the race I caught this terrible flu. Malheureusement dans mon cas, deux jours avant la course j'ai attrapé cette terrible grippe. Helaas kreeg ik in mijn geval twee dagen voor de race deze vreselijke griep. It’s funny, we were staying in the home of this person who owns the sawmill; very, very nice gentleman called Patrick Furdell. C'est marrant, nous logions chez cette personne qui possède la scierie ; très, très gentil monsieur appelé Patrick Furdell. Komik, kereste fabrikasının sahibi olan bu kişinin evinde kalıyorduk; Patrick Furdell adında çok güzel bir beyefendi. Very, very nice gentleman and he invited the three of us to stay in his house. Très, très gentil monsieur et il nous a invités tous les trois à rester dans sa maison. We arrived there and we weren’t sure there was anyone home. Llegamos allí y no estábamos seguros de que hubiera alguien en casa. Nous sommes arrivés là-bas et nous n'étions pas sûrs qu'il y avait quelqu'un à la maison. Ми приїхали туди й не були впевнені, що вдома хтось є. It was dark. We arrived about 9 o’clock at night. All of a sudden we heard someone. Вдруг мы услышали кого-то. Раптом ми почули когось. We were upstairs and he was downstairs and we heard someone moving around so I walked downstairs and there he was in his bathrobe. Estábamos arriba y él estaba abajo y escuchamos a alguien moverse, así que bajé las escaleras y allí estaba él en bata de baño. Üst kattaydık, alt kadaydı ve birilerinin hareket ettiğini duyduk, o yüzden alt kata yürüdüm ve orada bornozundaydı. He has white hair and he says, you know, he is a very, very nice gentleman, and he said Steve, so glad to see you but stay away; stay away, stay five meters away, I have the winter vomit disease. Er hat weißes Haar und er sagt, wissen Sie, er ist ein sehr, sehr netter Gentleman, und er sagte Steve, so froh, Sie zu sehen, aber bleiben Sie weg; Bleib weg, bleib fünf Meter weg, ich habe die Wintererbrechenskrankheit. Hij heeft wit haar en hij zegt, weet je, hij is een heel, heel aardige heer, en hij zei Steve, zo blij je te zien, maar blijf weg; blijf weg, blijf vijf meter weg, ik heb de winterbraakziekte.

Jill: The Swedish term.

Steve: The Swedish term the winter vomit disease and it is very contagious; you stay away so I said fine; so we stayed away. I can’t say that I got it from him. Onu ondan aldığımı söyleyemem. I could have got it from anyone but living in the same house and we touched the same doorknobs and stuff, there’s a good chance. Onu başka birinden alabilirdim ama aynı evde yaşıyorduk ve aynı kapılara ve eşyalara dokunduk, iyi bir şansımız var. Я міг отримати це від кого завгодно, але не живучи в одному будинку, і ми торкалися одних і тих самих дверних ручок та іншого, є хороший шанс.

Jill: Right.

Steve: Whatever. Steve: Her neyse. For two days prior to the race and on the day of the race I was just vomiting. Yarıştan önceki iki gün boyunca ve yarış günü sadece kusuyordum. I couldn’t keep any food down so basically I had nothing. I could not possibly have gone in the race, so I was out. Posiblemente no podría haber ido a la carrera, así que estaba fuera. Yarışta gitmemiştim, ben de dışarıdaydım. It was like a comedy of errors. Era como una comedia de errores. C'était comme une comédie d'erreurs. Это было похоже на комедию ошибок. Bir hata komedisi gibiydi. Це було схоже на комедію помилок. 这就像一部错误喜剧。 At this point now the two other guys, Richard and Steven, were very afraid of getting the dreaded winter vomit disease so they decided to move out. En este momento, los otros dos muchachos, Richard y Steven, tenían mucho miedo de contraer la temida enfermedad del vómito invernal, por lo que decidieron mudarse. در این مرحله اکنون دو پسر دیگر ، ریچارد و استیون ، از ابتلا به بیماری استفراغ ترسناک زمستانی بسیار ترسیده بودند ، بنابراین تصمیم گرفتند که از خانه خارج شوند. À ce stade, les deux autres gars, Richard et Steven, avaient très peur de contracter la redoutable maladie des vomissures hivernales, alors ils ont décidé de déménager.

Jill: Oh, that’s what happened.

Steve: The other guys, the fellows from the Swedish sawmill, they were all gathering in a place that was three hours away from the start of the race whereas where we were staying in our house we were only an hour and a half away. Steve: Los otros muchachos, los compañeros del aserradero sueco, estaban todos reunidos en un lugar que estaba a tres horas del inicio de la carrera, mientras que en nuestra casa estábamos a solo una hora y media de distancia. Steve : Les autres gars, les gars de la scierie suédoise, ils se rassemblaient tous dans un endroit qui était à trois heures du départ de la course alors que là où nous étions chez nous, nous n'étions qu'à une heure et demie. Стив: Другие парни, ребята со шведской лесопилки, собрались в месте, которое находилось в трех часах езды от старта гонки, в то время как мы жили в своем доме всего в полутора часах езды. Steve: Diğer adamlar, İsveçli kereste fabrikasının arkadaşları, yarışın başlamasından üç saat uzaklıkta olan bir yerde toplanıyorlardı, biz evde kaldığımız yerden sadece bir buçuk saat uzaktaydık. Стів: Інші хлопці, хлопці зі шведського лісопильного заводу, всі збиралися в місці, яке було за три години від початку гонки, тоді як ми залишалися в нашому будинку, ми були лише за півтори години.

Jill: Okay.

Steve: Our original plan was to get up at 4:00 and take a bus to the start of the race and so we’d get there about 5:30-6:00. Steve : Notre plan initial était de nous lever à 4h00 et de prendre un bus pour le départ de la course et donc nous y arriverions vers 5h30-6h00. The race starts at 8:00 because with 15,000 people the earlier you get there the closer to the front you are. La carrera empieza a las 8:00 porque con 15.000 personas cuanto antes llegas más cerca del frente estás. Yarış saat 8:00'de başlıyor çünkü 15.000 kişinin olduğu bir yerde ne kadar erken giderseniz o kadar öne yakın olursunuz. Apparently, you get there early and you put your skis down then you can go and have a cup of coffee or whatever you want to do; sleep some more, whatever. Apparemment, vous arrivez tôt et vous posez vos skis puis vous pouvez aller prendre une tasse de café ou faire ce que vous voulez ; dormir un peu plus, peu importe. Görünüşe göre, oraya erken gelirsin ve kayaklarını indirirsen sonra gidebilirsin ve bir fincan kahve içebilirsin ya da ne istersen yaparsın; Biraz daha uyu, ne olursa olsun.

Jill: Yeah, I heard that there were actually people that slept in the parking lot so they could put their skis out, you know, at 3:00 in the morning or whatever and then go back to bed. Jill : Ouais, j'ai entendu dire qu'il y avait en fait des gens qui dormaient dans le parking pour pouvoir sortir leurs skis, vous savez, à 3 heures du matin ou quoi que ce soit, puis retourner se coucher. Джил: Да, я слышала, что были люди, которые спали на парковке, чтобы в три часа ночи или в любое другое время разложить свои лыжи, а потом вернуться в постель. Jill: Evet, aslında otoparkta uyuyan insanlar olduğunu biliyordum, böylece kayaklarını koyabiliyorlardı, bilirsiniz, sabah saat 3: 00'te ya da her neyse ve sonra yatağa geri dönüyorlar.

Steve: Exactly. I mean 15,000 people! But, Steven and Richard now they were frightened; they were afraid. Pero, Steven y Richard ahora estaban asustados; Ellos estaban asustados. I mean, you know, here am I ever hour on the hour, day and night, I go to the bathroom right beside where they are sleeping. Quiero decir, ya sabes, aquí estoy cada hora, día y noche, voy al baño justo al lado de donde están durmiendo. Je veux dire, vous savez, je suis là, heure sur heure, jour et nuit, je vais à la salle de bain juste à côté de l'endroit où ils dorment. Yani, bilirsiniz, işte ben her saat başı, gece gündüz, onların uyuduğu yerin hemen yanında tuvalete gidiyorum. They hear me getting up and, of course, they picture all the germs that I’m spreading around so they decided to leave. Me escuchan levantarme y, por supuesto, se imaginan todos los gérmenes que estoy esparciendo, así que decidieron irse. Ils m'entendent me lever et, bien sûr, ils imaginent tous les germes que je propage, alors ils ont décidé de partir. Kalktığımı duydular ve tabii ki etrafa yaydığım tüm mikropları hayal ettiler ve gitmeye karar verdiler. Вони чують, як я встаю, і, звичайно, уявляють собі всі мікроби, які я поширюю навколо, тому вирішили піти. 他们听到我起床的声音，当然，他们想象着我四处传播的所有细菌，所以他们决定离开。 They went out to this place in the middle of the woods three hours from the start. Salieron a este lugar en medio del bosque a tres horas del comienzo. They were with a group of these other people, the employees of the sawmill, and their plan was to leave at 4:00 in the morning so that would get them there at 7:00. Estaban con un grupo de estas otras personas, los empleados del aserradero, y su plan era salir a las 4:00 de la mañana para llegar a las 7:00. Richard and Steven complained and some of the others, the keener ones, so then they said okay, we are going to leave at 3:30 in the morning. Richard und Steven beschwerten sich und einige der anderen, die Aufgeweckteren, also sagten sie, okay, wir fahren um 3:30 Uhr morgens los. Richard y Steven se quejaron y algunos de los otros, los más entusiastas, entonces dijeron bueno, nos vamos a ir a las 3:30 de la mañana. Richard et Steven se sont plaints et certains autres, les plus vifs, alors ils ont dit d'accord, nous partons à 3h30 du matin. Річард і Стівен скаржилися, а деякі інші, гостріші, тож вони сказали добре, ми збираємося вирушити о 3:30 ранку. They get up at 3:30, wolf down some porridge and get on the bus. Se levantan a las 3:30, se comen unas gachas y se suben al autobús. آنها ساعت 3:30 بلند می شوند ، مقداری فرنی را گرگ می کنند و سوار اتوبوس می شوند. Ils se lèvent à 3h30, engloutissent du porridge et montent dans le bus. Saat 3: 30'da kalkıyorlar, biraz püresi yiyorlar ve otobüse biniyorlar. Вони встають о 3:30, з’їдають кашу і сідають в автобус. The bus left late and, basically, they were on the road for about a half hour and one of the guys from the mill said I forgot my number. El autobús salió tarde y, básicamente, estuvieron en el camino durante aproximadamente media hora y uno de los muchachos del molino dijo que olvidé mi número. Le bus est parti tard et, en gros, ils étaient sur la route pendant environ une demi-heure et l'un des gars de l'usine a dit que j'avais oublié mon numéro. They also have a little chip that you put in your shoe or something so they can keep track of your time so the bus had to go back. Ils ont aussi une petite puce que vous mettez dans votre chaussure ou quelque chose comme ça pour qu'ils puissent garder une trace de votre temps pour que le bus revienne. У них також є невелика фішка, яку ви вкладаєте у своє взуття чи щось інше, щоб вони могли відстежувати ваш час, тому автобусу довелося повернутися назад. The net result was that they got there with about 15-20 minutes to go so they were at the very back of the group. В результате они добрались до места примерно за 15-20 минут, поэтому оказались в самом конце группы. Net sonuç, oraya yaklaşık 15-20 dakika kala varmaları ve böylece grubun en arkasında yer almalarıydı. Остаточний результат полягав у тому, що їм залишилося приблизно 15-20 хвилин, тому вони опинилися в самому кінці групи. They, in fact, couldn’t finish the race because if you don’t reach a certain point by a certain time they basically throw you out of the race. They, in fact, couldn’t finish the race because if you don’t reach a certain point by a certain time they basically throw you out of the race. Ellos, de hecho, no pudieron terminar la carrera porque si no llegas a cierto punto en un cierto tiempo básicamente te echan de la carrera. En fait, ils ne pouvaient pas terminer la course car si vous n'atteignez pas un certain point à un certain moment, ils vous excluraient de la course. W rzeczywistości nie mogli ukończyć wyścigu, ponieważ jeśli nie osiągniesz określonego punktu w określonym czasie, zasadniczo wyrzucają cię z wyścigu.

Jill: Yeah, they don’t let you go on. Jill: Sí, no te dejan continuar. Jill : Ouais, ils ne te laissent pas continuer. Джил: Да, они не позволяют вам продолжать.

Steve: So, the three of us trained very hard and I basically came away with more honor than the other two. Steve : Donc, nous nous sommes entraînés très dur tous les trois et je suis reparti avec plus d'honneur que les deux autres. Steve: Üçümüz de çok sıkı çalıştık ve ben diğer ikisinden daha onurlu bir şekilde ayrıldım. Well, that’s not true, it wasn’t their fault. Bueno, eso no es cierto, no fue su culpa. I don’t regret for a minute the effort that I put into my training. No me arrepiento ni un minuto del esfuerzo que puse en mi entrenamiento. Je ne regrette pas une minute l'effort que j'ai mis dans mon entraînement. I had a fabulous time and I was motivated by the race and I was motivated by this particular measurable target, 500 kilometers. Of course, I had a great time skiing. Some days it was sunny and some days it was snowing in my face and some days it was windy and some days it was cold and some days it was warm, it didn’t matter. In my blog I compared it a little bit to language learning that our long-term goal is to learn the language. We have this image…like I had this image of completing my 90 kilometer ski race; that’s 9-10 hours. Nous avons cette image comme j'ai eu cette image de terminer ma course de ski de 90 kilomètres; c'est 9-10 heures. I mean maybe I can’t do it, I don’t know, but I visualized that I could do it. I would never have trained if I didn’t think that I could do it. Nunca hubiera entrenado si no hubiera pensado que podía hacerlo. Je ne me serais jamais entraîné si je ne pensais pas pouvoir le faire.

Jill: Right.

Steve: I don’t know for sure that I can.

Jill: Well, you can’t have that attitude that I can’t do it because then what’s the point of all the training? Jill : Eh bien, vous ne pouvez pas avoir cette attitude que je ne peux pas faire car alors quel est le but de toute la formation ? Джил: Ну, ты не можешь относиться к этому так, будто я не могу этого сделать, потому что тогда какой смысл во всех этих тренировках?

Steve: Exactly, you wouldn’t even try but I haven’t yet proven that I can do it. Steve : Exactement, tu n'essaierais même pas mais je n'ai pas encore prouvé que je peux le faire. Steve: Kesinlikle, sen denemezsin bile ama ben yapabileceğimi henüz kanıtlayamadım.

Jill: Right.

Steve: Right. Because I got sick I didn’t do it. Оскільки я захворів, я цього не зробив. I haven’t done it yet but I believe I can do it; otherwise, I wouldn’t bother. Todavía no lo he hecho pero creo que puedo hacerlo; de lo contrario, no me molestaría. Je ne l'ai pas encore fait mais je crois que je peux le faire; sinon, je ne m'embêterais pas. Henüz yapmadım ama yapabileceğime inanıyorum; aksi takdirde uğraşmazdım. Я ще цього не зробив, але вірю, що зможу це зробити; інакше я б не турбувався. So, that’s my long-term goal, but you also need a measurable goal. And so that was 500 kilometers and I can basically do that; 30 kilometers and another 20 and another 40 and another 30 and so I can gradually, you know, take that off. Y eso fue 500 kilómetros y básicamente puedo hacer eso; 30 kilómetros y otros 20 y otros 40 y otros 30 y así puedo poco a poco, ya sabes, quitarme eso. Ve bu 500 kilometreydi ve temelde bunu yapabilirim; 30 kilometre ve başka bir 20 ve başka bir 40 ve başka bir 30 ve böylece yavaş yavaş, bilirsiniz, bunu çıkarabilirim. Now I’m at 100, 130, 150 and stuff. Ahora estoy en 100, 130, 150 y esas cosas. Şimdi 100, 130, 150 ve diğerlerindeyim. Зараз у мене 100, 130, 150 і таке інше.

Jill: Until you reach your 500.

Steve: Until I reach my 500 kilometer goal, so it’s a very specific and clear goal. That is, of course, what we’ve tried to do in The Linguist. C'est, bien sûr, ce que nous avons essayé de faire dans The Linguist. Your long-term goal is you want to achieve fluency. Okay, for me, I want to complete the race. I’m not going to win the race so it doesn’t matter to me. Yarışı kazanmayacağım, bu yüzden benim için fark etmez. If I complete the race, I’m happy.

Jill: Right.

Steve: I have the same approach to fluency. Fluency in a language doesn’t mean that you are perfect.

Jill: Right, sound exactly like a native speaker. Jill: Doğru, tıpkı ana dili İngilizce olan biri gibi konuş. Джилл: Правильно, звучить як у носія мови.

Steve: That’s right. You don’t have to be better, you know. Daha iyi olmak zorunda değilsin, biliyorsun. My pronunciation is better than Jill’s. Jill knows more words than I do. Jill connaît plus de mots que moi. Who cares? It doesn’t matter.

Jill: Right.

Steve: If I can speak, if Jill can speak, we’re both happy, we’re both fluent, we can communicate and we can continue to get better. Steve: Ben konuşabiliyorsam, Jill konuşabiliyorsa, ikimiz de mutluysak, ikimiz de akıcıysak, iletişim kurabilir ve daha iyi olmaya devam edebiliriz. To that extent, there is also a comparison with language learning. In dat opzicht is er ook een vergelijking met het leren van talen. Bu açıdan dil öğrenimi ile de bir karşılaştırma yapılabilir. У цій мірі є також порівняння з вивченням мови. I just want to be in the race. Well, I just want to be in the language. Okay, I want to be fluent but to have more specific concrete goals is also useful. Добре, я хочу вільно говорити, але мати більш конкретні конкретні цілі також корисно. That’s why we count the words and we have a number of measurables and graphs and statistics because it helps you. Daarom tellen we de woorden en hebben we een aantal meetwaarden en grafieken en statistieken omdat het je helpt. If they had said to me just go out and train well, how much do I train? I don’t know.

Jill: You have no measuring stick. Jill: No tienes vara de medir. Jill : Vous n'avez pas de bâton de mesure. Джилл: У вас немає мірної палички. You have no idea whether you should be doing 10 kilometers at a time or 30 kilometers, you know, a total of 40 kilometers over several months or 1,000 kilometers so you don’t even know. Vous n'avez aucune idée si vous devriez faire 10 kilomètres à la fois ou 30 kilomètres, vous savez, un total de 40 kilomètres sur plusieurs mois ou 1 000 kilomètres donc vous ne savez même pas.

Steve: It’s motivating to know, okay, I want to do this amount. Steve : C'est motivant de savoir, d'accord, je veux faire ce montant. Of course, the other thing is we at The Linguist want to make the content interesting. Just as when you go skiing, I mean, I didn’t ski in a tunnel. Tout comme quand tu vas skier, je veux dire, je n'ai pas skié dans un tunnel. Tıpkı kayak yapmaya gittiğinizde olduğu gibi, yani ben bir tünelde kaymadım. Я маю на увазі, що коли ви катаєтеся на лижах, я не катався на лижах у тунелі. I didn’t ski in my basement on some treadmill. No esquié en mi sótano en una caminadora. Je n'ai pas skié dans mon sous-sol sur un tapis roulant. Bodrumumda koşu bandında kaymadım. Я не катався на лижах у своєму підвалі на якійсь біговій доріжці. I went to places that were nice. It was in the snow, it was in nature, different trails so the whole thing was enjoyable. On that basis, Bu temelde,

Jill: …it was hard work but it was enjoyable.

Steve: Exactly. It wasn’t hard for me to get up the next day and go back out there skiing. Ce n'était pas difficile pour moi de me lever le lendemain et de repartir skier. I had a ball. Tuve una pelota. J'ai eu une balle. Я получил удовольствие. У мене був м'яч. 我有一个球。 I loved it. So, anyway, that’s a longwinded answer to your question. Donc, de toute façon, c'est une réponse longue à votre question. Dus hoe dan ook, dat is een langdradig antwoord op uw vraag. Her neyse, bu sorunuza uzun bir cevap oldu. Так що, у будь-якому випадку, це довга відповідь на ваше запитання. In the end, yeah, that was the Vasaloppet and, unfortunately, the three of us came back to Canada as we say with our tails between our legs. В итоге, да, это был Vasaloppet, и, к сожалению, мы втроем вернулись в Канаду, как говорится, с поджатыми ногами. Sonunda, evet, Vasaloppet buydu ve ne yazık ki üçümüz de kuyruklarımızı bacaklarımızın arasına sıkıştırarak Kanada'ya geri döndük.

Jill: But there’s always next year.

Steve: Yes, there’s always next year. I think we’ve kind of covered the Vasaloppet. Je pense que nous avons en quelque sorte couvert le Vasaloppet. Sanırım Vasaloppet'i hallettik.

Jill: I agree.

Steve: Okay. Once again, this is EnglishlingQ.com where you can find a number of similar Podcasts and the transcripts will eventually be available in our Library. For those of you who are members of The Linguist, you can then access the text and you can save words and phrases, you can add to your totals, reach the… not the 500 kilometer mark but the 5,000 word mark. Pour ceux d'entre vous qui sont membres de The Linguist, vous pouvez alors accéder au texte et vous pouvez enregistrer des mots et des phrases, vous pouvez ajouter à vos totaux, atteindre non pas la barre des 500 kilomètres mais la barre des 5 000 mots. Dilbilimcinin üyeleri olanlarınız için, metne erişebilir ve kelimeleri ve cümleleri kaydedebilirsiniz, toplamlarınıza ekleyebilir, 500 kilometre işareti değil, 5.000 kelime işaretine ulaşabilirsiniz. I should point out that in The Linguist we have a number of people who are at the 20,000 word mark and at all points in between. Je dois souligner que dans The Linguist, nous avons un certain nombre de personnes qui sont à la barre des 20 000 mots et à tous les points intermédiaires. Dilbilimci'de, 20.000 kelime işaretinde ve aradaki tüm noktalarda bulunan birkaç insanımız olduğunu belirtmeliyim. So, thank you.

Jill: Thank you.