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It`s Okay To Be Smart, The Surprising Species That Everything Else Depends On | IN OUR NATURE (1)

The Surprising Species That Everything Else Depends On | IN OUR NATURE (1)

This is a story about lions, and giraffes, and a microscopic little virus. It's also a story

about grass, and fire, and a bunch of these funny looking guys and what all of that has

to do with bombs, extermination and restoring ancient traditions and extinct ecosystems.

There's one big idea that ties all of these together, that even in a place overflowing

with life, there's one species that keeps the whole thing from crumbling down. And what

happens if we take an ecosystem that's fallen apart and we add that one key species back.

Can we fix it? Trace, and Emily and myself, we're going to be bringing you a series of

stories, featuring some incredible storytellers, some really passionate scientists and a bunch

of people who just really care about wild places. We're exploring the rules of life

that connect ecosystems, even half a world apart like Africa's Serengeti and a Native

American Tribal Community in South Dakota. And while we're at it, we're going to find

out a little more about our place in all of this. Hey, hi, Trace Dominguez Emily Grasley.

It is so good to see your faces. I am really excited to tell people about this thing, this

thing we've been working on, I don't know what to call it. Well, I guess it all started

with an idea that there's a different way to tell stories about nature that maybe we've

been doing it all wrong. A way to look at the,

Yeah, I feel like when I'm looking at a science story, I tend to get like hyper focused and

you get sort of a narrow lens on what you're looking at, and you have a tendency to miss

the other stuff that's around you,

Because really everything in nature is connected to so many other bits in nature. And often in ways that

you don't even expect if you're not looking, That's what this is all about. And what we're

going to do is show you how these big ideas, The rules of life

Are all connected and how we fit into that. I figured we'd start in the Serengeti. It's

an amazing place, but to tell all the stories that happen in that place, I feel like you

need to understand why it even exists in the first place. Wow. Wow. Yeah. That is Jahawi

Bertolli. He is this photographer and filmmaker from Kenya. I met up with him out in the Serengeti

because he's been going out there his whole life.

I mean, just look at the scope of this. Absolutely incredible. When you think of big drama in a place like

the African Serengeti, what's the first thing that pops into your head. Dung beetles, cheetahs.

Those are not the answers I'm looking for. The answer is these guys. No, seriously, you

are looking at the most important event on the entire Serengeti ecosystem.

It's eating grass, Joe. I don't, I don't. Okay. Okay.

I get it will, they are kind of goofy. They got that whole goatee thing going on. They

have that funny rear end kind of looks like somebody forgot to finish them, but they might

be the reason that the African Serengeti even exists.

Um, excuse me. I learned from the documentary Lion King that that is not the case.

I don't know how to tell you this, but, um, your childhood might've been a lie. Hey, have

you guys ever seen this pyramid thing? It's kind of a zoomed out way of looking at how

ecosystems are organized. So down at the bottom, you've got all the stuff that does photosynthesis,

the plants and everything like that. And here in the middle, you've got the stuff that the

plants and at the top, you've got the stuff that eats the stuff that eats the plants,

Everything at the top that kind of regulates everything underneath it. Right?

That is what I thought, but that is not how the Serengeti works. One thing you got to

understand about wildebeests, okay, is just how many of them there are, I mean wildebeests everywhere.

Joe, you went to Africa like one time. Okay. Yeah.

Jahawi helped. So not far from us, it's a big herd of wildebeest.

Is this all of them? Like all of them, Can you imagine? Not even a tiny bit.

Every direction that we look is wildebeests, as far as we can see.

Just in this little area, how many do you think there are.

Easily at thousands without turning my head. And then in the distance, we see this massive group

of zebra, several thousand zebra, which migrate with them. It looks like the horizon is made

of tiny black and white shapes, thousands and thousands. I mean, it's one of those things.

It's just, you can just keep counting. You took all of the zebras and the giraffes

and the antelope and the gazelle. If you took the next 12, most abundant herbivores on the

Serengeti, wildebeests would outweigh all of them.

How is that possible? That's the big question. That's what scientists wanted to know. How

can this place support so many of those funny looking wildebeests. Yeah. I don't understand.

Well, I'm going to tell you, but to do that, we have to go back in time to when the Serengeti

was not like this to the 1950s. So back then nobody really studied the Serengeti and scientists

were like, you know, maybe the first thing we should do is just count everything. So

they started with the wildebeests and the first year they counted like 250,000 wildebeests.

Then a few years go by and all of a sudden there's 400,000 wildebeests. I would say that's

a lot of new gnus. Emily, I love it. Gnu news, cause with

the G love it. Right. And then just a few years after that there's 700,000. Fast forward

a few more years, there's 1.4 million wildebeests. This is totally weird because based on everything

scientists knew up to this point, like large animal populations just don't do this. I mean

sure. Like fish, rabbits, plankton, they have these huge rapid population explosions, but

giant mammalian herbivores, that just doesn't happen. And actually people started to get

worried, like maybe this is too many wildebeests. Sure. The Serengeti is pretty great, but maybe

it can't support all of them, but then they realized something. You weren't looking at

a population explosion they're were looking at a rebound.

Okay. But rebounding from what? Like over-hunting or like an ice-age extinction? How many viruses

have humans completely eradicated from the earth? Like in the history of ever? The answer

is just two, smallpox and a virus called rinderpest. Rinderpest was this cattle virus. That's like

thousands of years caused civilization level plagues and famines that infecting and killing

cattle and other ruminants. Thanks to massive vaccination efforts, the last reported case

was in 2001, but if you go back a hundred years before that, rinderpest was accidentally

introduced to Africa in the 1890s. And by the 1900s it killed like 90% of the wild wildebeest

and Buffalo in east Africa, early to passed the vaccine came the 1950s. And by the 1960s,

this virus was basically under control. This virus had been keeping wildebeest populations

down for like 70 years. And it wasn't just wildebeests. When they came back, scientists

started seeing a whole bunch of other changes in the ecosystem, changes that were pretty

surprising. Are there lions in this part? you know I'm going to want to see some lions.

Okay. Yes, there are lions in this park, but we're not done with grass yet. Okay. So one wildebeest doesn't eat that much, but a million

and a half wildebeest eat more than 9 million pounds of grass every single day.

And that's enough to shape a whole ecosystem. You know, wildebeests are quite picky eaters

and they basically like short grass, you know? So like now here on the short grass plains,

this is perfect for them, but they also like new shoots. That's like, it's like a child,

like children are aren't even that picky. Zebra, they're not so picky. So they tend

to actually come through first and clear, clear the way. And then, then the wildebeests

can get what they want. Wow, exactly. Cooperative eating.

So if you eliminate this virus, you get more wildebeests, more hungry wildebeests means

less grass. And because more grass is being eaten, that means less fuel for fires and

less wildfire means that more young trees get to grow and more trees growing means more

food for giraffes and elephants and birds too. And of course more wildebeests means

more food for predators. Hey, now we're at the lion part, right?

Yes. Lion numbers went up and so did hyenas and other predators too. They are the Keystone

species of this ecosystem. Ding, ding, ding. He said the name of the

episode in the episode! It's a $6 million word. It's incredible to think of enormous groups

like this, just moving across this land, eating and pooping.

I mean, you can imagine the effect on the ecosystem. I've seen the migration and then

I've been lucky enough to see it quite a few times, but I can't help, but be blown away

every time by the sheer size, the number there's very few places left that can support these

kinds of herds. People had always just assumed that a Keystone

species had to be a predator, but here you've got these funny plant eaters, keeping an entire

ecosystem from collapsing. And, in fact, they're making it better. And today this million and

a half wildebeests are the largest herd of plant eating mammals on earth.

The population it's not still growing. I mean that wouldn't be sustainable, right?

No. I mean, you can't have wildebeests growing and like slowly taking over the universe,

they remain remarkably stable. That's the next mystery the scientist had to solve. I

mean, why? Oh, Trace. There are definitely lots of lions in this part. I was going to

say, we're at the top of the pyramid. We're getting to the lions. We're getting predators,

its going to be great. Oh and hyenas too. Okay. So a lot of stuff

gets eaten in the Serengeti by those guys at the top of the pyramid, the predators.

But some animals get eaten more than others. Let's say you're something small, like an

Impala. Well, chances are, you're going to die at the hands of something with fang, claws.

The pokey parts.

They have what scientists call a high prediction rate. But if you're something big, like an

elephant or a giraffe, not a lot is going to mess with you.

All right. All that makes sense. But where exactly are wildebeests then cause they're

big, but they're not elephant. Okay. The answer that

Scientists looked at, something that Emily knows a thing or two about bones, dead bones.

Oh yeah. Well actually bone marrow to be more specific

- sick. So here's the other thing you got to know about wildebeests. They move a lot

in the rainy season. The wildebeest are down in these grassy Plains where there's plenty

to eat. But as the dry season begins, the, see a wildebeest moves north this thousand

kilometer cycle repeats itself every year. It's one of the greatest animal migrations

on Earth. So, you know, when, when a lot of people think

about the migration, they, they think wildebeests cause they call it the Great Wildebeest Migration. But in

reality, there's a lot of other animals that actually go along parts of the migration.

I mean, you've got Thompson gazelle, you've got a lot of zebra. What's the, what's the,

the advantage of, of them traveling with the migration. If we were zebra and things, it

is a part getting to the best grazing. And then you've got safety and numbers and lots


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This is a story about lions, and giraffes, and a microscopic little virus. It's also a story

about grass, and fire, and a bunch of these funny looking guys and what all of that has

to do with bombs, extermination and restoring ancient traditions and extinct ecosystems.

There's one big idea that ties all of these together, that even in a place overflowing

with life, there's one species that keeps the whole thing from crumbling down. And what

happens if we take an ecosystem that's fallen apart and we add that one key species back. passiert, wenn wir ein Ökosystem, das aus den Fugen geraten ist, mit einer Schlüsselart wiederherstellen.

Can we fix it? Trace, and Emily and myself, we're going to be bringing you a series of

stories, featuring some incredible storytellers, some really passionate scientists and a bunch

of people who just really care about wild places. We're exploring the rules of life

that connect ecosystems, even half a world apart like Africa's Serengeti and a Native

American Tribal Community in South Dakota. And while we're at it, we're going to find

out a little more about our place in all of this. Hey, hi, Trace Dominguez Emily Grasley.

It is so good to see your faces. I am really excited to tell people about this thing, this

thing we've been working on, I don't know what to call it. Well, I guess it all started

with an idea that there's a different way to tell stories about nature that maybe we've

been doing it all wrong. A way to look at the,

Yeah, I feel like when I'm looking at a science story, I tend to get like hyper focused and

you get sort of a narrow lens on what you're looking at, and you have a tendency to miss

the other stuff that's around you,

Because really everything in nature is connected to so many other bits in nature. And often in ways that

you don't even expect if you're not looking, That's what this is all about. And what we're

going to do is show you how these big ideas, The rules of life

Are all connected and how we fit into that. I figured we'd start in the Serengeti. It's sind alle miteinander verbunden und wie wir dazugehören. Ich dachte, wir fangen in der Serengeti an. Es ist

an amazing place, but to tell all the stories that happen in that place, I feel like you

need to understand why it even exists in the first place. Wow. Wow. Yeah. That is Jahawi

Bertolli. He is this photographer and filmmaker from Kenya. I met up with him out in the Serengeti

because he's been going out there his whole life.

I mean, just look at the scope of this. Absolutely incredible. When you think of big drama in a place like

the African Serengeti, what's the first thing that pops into your head. Dung beetles, cheetahs.

Those are not the answers I'm looking for. The answer is these guys. No, seriously, you

are looking at the most important event on the entire Serengeti ecosystem.

It's eating grass, Joe. I don't, I don't. Okay. Okay.

I get it will, they are kind of goofy. They got that whole goatee thing going on. They

have that funny rear end kind of looks like somebody forgot to finish them, but they might

be the reason that the African Serengeti even exists.

Um, excuse me. I learned from the documentary Lion King that that is not the case.

I don't know how to tell you this, but, um, your childhood might've been a lie. Hey, have

you guys ever seen this pyramid thing? It's kind of a zoomed out way of looking at how

ecosystems are organized. So down at the bottom, you've got all the stuff that does photosynthesis,

the plants and everything like that. And here in the middle, you've got the stuff that the

plants and at the top, you've got the stuff that eats the stuff that eats the plants,

Everything at the top that kind of regulates everything underneath it. Right?

That is what I thought, but that is not how the Serengeti works. One thing you got to

understand about wildebeests, okay, is just how many of them there are, I mean wildebeests everywhere.

Joe, you went to Africa like one time. Okay. Yeah. Joe, du warst ein Mal in Afrika. Okay. Ja.

Jahawi helped. So not far from us, it's a big herd of wildebeest.

Is this all of them? Like all of them, Can you imagine? Not even a tiny bit.

Every direction that we look is wildebeests, as far as we can see.

Just in this little area, how many do you think there are.

Easily at thousands without turning my head. And then in the distance, we see this massive group

of zebra, several thousand zebra, which migrate with them. It looks like the horizon is made

of tiny black and white shapes, thousands and thousands. I mean, it's one of those things.

It's just, you can just keep counting. You took all of the zebras and the giraffes

and the antelope and the gazelle. If you took the next 12, most abundant herbivores on the

Serengeti, wildebeests would outweigh all of them.

How is that possible? That's the big question. That's what scientists wanted to know. How

can this place support so many of those funny looking wildebeests. Yeah. I don't understand. kan deze plek zoveel van die grappig uitziende gnoes ondersteunen. Ja. Ik begrijp het niet.

Well, I'm going to tell you, but to do that, we have to go back in time to when the Serengeti

was not like this to the 1950s. So back then nobody really studied the Serengeti and scientists

were like, you know, maybe the first thing we should do is just count everything. So

they started with the wildebeests and the first year they counted like 250,000 wildebeests.

Then a few years go by and all of a sudden there's 400,000 wildebeests. I would say that's

a lot of new gnus. Emily, I love it. Gnu news, cause with

the G love it. Right. And then just a few years after that there's 700,000. Fast forward

a few more years, there's 1.4 million wildebeests. This is totally weird because based on everything

scientists knew up to this point, like large animal populations just don't do this. I mean

sure. Like fish, rabbits, plankton, they have these huge rapid population explosions, but

giant mammalian herbivores, that just doesn't happen. And actually people started to get

worried, like maybe this is too many wildebeests. Sure. The Serengeti is pretty great, but maybe

it can't support all of them, but then they realized something. You weren't looking at

a population explosion they're were looking at a rebound.

Okay. But rebounding from what? Like over-hunting or like an ice-age extinction? How many viruses

have humans completely eradicated from the earth? Like in the history of ever? The answer

is just two, smallpox and a virus called rinderpest. Rinderpest was this cattle virus. That's like

thousands of years caused civilization level plagues and famines that infecting and killing

cattle and other ruminants. Thanks to massive vaccination efforts, the last reported case

was in 2001, but if you go back a hundred years before that, rinderpest was accidentally

introduced to Africa in the 1890s. And by the 1900s it killed like 90% of the wild wildebeest

and Buffalo in east Africa, early to passed the vaccine came the 1950s. And by the 1960s,

this virus was basically under control. This virus had been keeping wildebeest populations

down for like 70 years. And it wasn't just wildebeests. When they came back, scientists

started seeing a whole bunch of other changes in the ecosystem, changes that were pretty

surprising. Are there lions in this part? you know I'm going to want to see some lions.

Okay. Yes, there are lions in this park, but we're not done with grass yet. Okay. So one wildebeest doesn't eat that much, but a million

and a half wildebeest eat more than 9 million pounds of grass every single day.

And that's enough to shape a whole ecosystem. You know, wildebeests are quite picky eaters

and they basically like short grass, you know? So like now here on the short grass plains,

this is perfect for them, but they also like new shoots. That's like, it's like a child,

like children are aren't even that picky. Zebra, they're not so picky. So they tend

to actually come through first and clear, clear the way. And then, then the wildebeests

can get what they want. Wow, exactly. Cooperative eating.

So if you eliminate this virus, you get more wildebeests, more hungry wildebeests means

less grass. And because more grass is being eaten, that means less fuel for fires and

less wildfire means that more young trees get to grow and more trees growing means more

food for giraffes and elephants and birds too. And of course more wildebeests means

more food for predators. Hey, now we're at the lion part, right?

Yes. Lion numbers went up and so did hyenas and other predators too. They are the Keystone

species of this ecosystem. Ding, ding, ding. He said the name of the

episode in the episode! It's a $6 million word. It's incredible to think of enormous groups

like this, just moving across this land, eating and pooping.

I mean, you can imagine the effect on the ecosystem. I've seen the migration and then

I've been lucky enough to see it quite a few times, but I can't help, but be blown away

every time by the sheer size, the number there's very few places left that can support these

kinds of herds. People had always just assumed that a Keystone

species had to be a predator, but here you've got these funny plant eaters, keeping an entire

ecosystem from collapsing. And, in fact, they're making it better. And today this million and

a half wildebeests are the largest herd of plant eating mammals on earth.

The population it's not still growing. I mean that wouldn't be sustainable, right?

No. I mean, you can't have wildebeests growing and like slowly taking over the universe,

they remain remarkably stable. That's the next mystery the scientist had to solve. I

mean, why? Oh, Trace. There are definitely lots of lions in this part. I was going to

say, we're at the top of the pyramid. We're getting to the lions. We're getting predators,

its going to be great. Oh and hyenas too. Okay. So a lot of stuff

gets eaten in the Serengeti by those guys at the top of the pyramid, the predators.

But some animals get eaten more than others. Let's say you're something small, like an

Impala. Well, chances are, you're going to die at the hands of something with fang, claws. Impala. De kans is groot dat je sterft door toedoen van iets met hoektanden, klauwen. Імпала. Швидше за все, ви загинете від рук чогось з іклами, кігтями.

The pokey parts. У найдрібніших деталях.

They have what scientists call a high prediction rate. But if you're something big, like an

elephant or a giraffe, not a lot is going to mess with you. Ob Elefant oder Giraffe, es gibt nicht viele, die sich mit dir anlegen.

All right. All that makes sense. But where exactly are wildebeests then cause they're

big, but they're not elephant. Okay. The answer that

Scientists looked at, something that Emily knows a thing or two about bones, dead bones.

Oh yeah. Well actually bone marrow to be more specific

- sick. So here's the other thing you got to know about wildebeests. They move a lot

in the rainy season. The wildebeest are down in these grassy Plains where there's plenty

to eat. But as the dry season begins, the, see a wildebeest moves north this thousand

kilometer cycle repeats itself every year. It's one of the greatest animal migrations

on Earth. So, you know, when, when a lot of people think

about the migration, they, they think wildebeests cause they call it the Great Wildebeest Migration. But in

reality, there's a lot of other animals that actually go along parts of the migration.

I mean, you've got Thompson gazelle, you've got a lot of zebra. What's the, what's the,

the advantage of, of them traveling with the migration. If we were zebra and things, it

is a part getting to the best grazing. And then you've got safety and numbers and lots