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Essential Tennis, Podcast #136: Avoid these three huge technique mistakes! (Part 3)

Podcast #136: Avoid these three huge technique mistakes! (Part 3)

Alright. Before we get to our second question on today's show, I want to remind you all about the official sponsor of the Essential Tennis podcast. That is Championship Tennis Tours. You can find them online at tennistours.com. They're a supporter of the Essential Tennis podcast, which I really appreciate. To show your appreciation for their support of myself and the show, go check them out.

And if you're going to be going to a professional tennis event anytime in the future and you want tickets, travel arrangements, hotel accommodations, etc. definitely check them out first. See if they have tickets for the event that you're going to. If they do, when you make your purchase, use the promotional code “essential” and you'll get a discount off your purchase. Plus, it will show them that you're a listener of the show, and you really appreciate their support. Which will help keep them on as a sponsor of the Essential Tennis podcast!

Alright. Our last question on today's show comes to us from Vidron in Croatia. Vidron, [laughter] I'm really sorry. I'm probably killing your name, so I'll go ahead and just apologize up front. I'm not sure what the correct pronunciation is, so please forgive me. Vidron is a 3.5 player. Again, in Crotia. He wrote and said:

“The thing that I want to get advice about is an experiment that I tried on my serve. In trying to develop an aggressive and more powerful first serve while maintaining my second serve at its current level, I decided to change my toss, and throw the ball a bit lower and significantly more in front of my body to create more pace and more spin. But more pace mainly.

Unfortunately, this experiment led to losing my consistency on my second serve, and producing a whole lot more double faults than before. So my question is this: Is it recommendable to have 2 different types of service toss? Is it even possible considering the problems I've developed? And keeping in mind all those problems that pro-players often have with only 1 type of ball toss in various parts of their careers.”

Alright. So Vidron, do I recommend 2 totally different ball tosses and techniques? Because that's what that would mean. Basically, when you put your toss in a totally different spot, it changes the whole rest of your serve as well. You can't just make a big change to your toss and use the same technique. Everything else has to change to accommodate that new location.

So we're really talking about a completely different swing. Short answer is no. I definitely don't recommend that you do that. Mostly for the sake of consistency and unity in your game. And it would mean twice as much work for you to continually try to improve 2 totally different serves than if you used basically the same toss, and small changes in your technique between your first and second serve. If you tossed in essentially the same place between your first and second serve, you could keep things like your rhythm; the rotation of your body; your contact point.

Again, relatively speaking, all of those things could remain the same, whereas this big change that you're talking about much lower and much farther in front, all of those big technique elements have to be different. So we're talking about trying to develop 2 completely different service techniques. It doubles your work as a player as you try to continue to become better and better on the court.

I give this same answer when players ask me about something like maybe developing both the one handed and two handed back hand. Something else that I don't recommend for the same reason: it's 2 totally different swings, and it's just that much more to work on and try to improve as you try to get yourself to be a better player. The benefit almost never outweighs all that extra work.

This is especially since most of you listening I assume–probably over 90% of you listening–are just recreational players, people that have a regular job during the day. Or maybe you guys are students, and you have school during the day. You might have a couple of hours a week to practice and play. Maybe 2-4 hours at the most. You guys want to be smart about how you use your time. When you start really spreading out your asset of time, especially on the practice court as you try to improve your technique, doing things like this is just not something that I recommend.

Now this is unless your previous toss Vidron, if your previous toss was really high and it as far behind you, where you were constantly leaning backwards to get to the toss and it was super high so it kind of busted up your rhythm, and you had to wait for a long time to wait for the ball to get down. Unless that was the case, your change isn't going to lead towards better technique anyway. It sounds to me like you're trying to toss it low and kind of right in front of you, into the court a couple of feet, and probably making contact lower. [laughter] Basically, exactly what I was describing in my first topic today when I talked about bad habits on service technique. It sounds to me like you were trying to put it low right in front of you so you could make a low contact point and hit the ball just straight out in front of you into the box with a slightly open face to make sure that it makes it over the net.

This is really common technique, but it's definitely not a very athletic motion. It's not going to give you a lot of potential as far as developing a higher level serve in the future. Now a lot of players are very consistent hitting the ball this way. But it's not a technique that I like. Again, because it's just not very good as far as fundamental use of your body goes for creating pace and spin, etc. It's not going to leave you a lot of room for growth. Now there's one exception to all of this. I've told you that I don't like your idea. I don't like you having 2 totally different motions and tosses in general. I also don't like the idea of the specific technique you're talking about. However, there's one exception to both of those things. Previously, you were really struggling with your first serve, and weren't making it very often. This big toss change made an immediate improvement. Vidron has told us already that this hasn't worked out very well for him, but this is more for the rest of you listening. If that big toss change makes an immediate improvement and ultimately you're happy with the result, and in the long run, you're going to continue being happy with it, then fine. Go ahead and do it! Go ahead and make the change, and have fun playing. I don't think it's the best idea, and I also don't think it's the best technique. But if you see an immediate improvement in confidence and consistency, and you're happy with where it's at and you don't mind sacrificing some long-term potential for short-term success, then go ahead and do it. I want to make sure that I don't get too rigid and too strict about my views with technique. I know I have the tendency to do that: both on the podcast and in person.

Ultimately, all of you listening, it should be your goal to enjoy the game. To have fun. If you can make a quick, immediate improvement–even if it's not the best technique and you're going to be OK with the fact that it's not the best technique and it might limit you as far as potential a little down the road–go ahead and do it. But just keep in mind, it's not going to be my #1 suggestion! My #1 suggestion is always to be to learn the best possible technique, and work hard at it, and give yourself the best ceiling, your best change, to continue making yourself a better tennis player. I'm always going to be upfront with you guys about what changes will lead to the most long-term benefits, basically. It's always going to be the direction that I come at with my answers to your questions on this show. Those of you who comes out and work with me in person at a clinic, etc. That's always going to be my perspective, because that's just the way I think. I don't like shortcuts in general. [laughter] And tennis is no exception! I want you guys to learn the best possible technique. I just want you guys to know where I'm coming at in regards to that. So Vidron, thank you very much for your question. Hopefully you've got a good idea of what I recommend here. I'm sorry that your change didn't work out very well for you in general. Yes, I do recommend that you have some kind of unity between your first and second serve. They should be slightly different techniques, but I don't recommend that you use totally different serves for those 2. If you have a video camera, feel free to send me an e-mail with a video clip showing me your serve, and I'd be happy to give you some input. Some further input as far as specific technique is concerned.

But thank you very much for being a listener in Croatia. I appreciate it. Hopefully this episode has been a help to you!

Alright. That bring Episode #136 of the Essential Tennis podcast to a close. Thank you very much for joining me on today's show. I hope that you enjoyed it, and that it's been informative and helpful to you. And in wrapping up today, I wanted to remind you all about the different social networks that Essential Tennis is on. You can get updates on Twitter at Twitter.com slash Essential Tennis. You can also check out the Facebook fan page at Facebook.com slash Essential Tennis. And you can look at the instructional videos that I have posted at YouTube.com slash Essential Tennis. So go check all 3 of those pages out. Lots of good stuff in all 3.

And if you'd like to be friends with me on Facebook, you can check out my personal account as well, which is Facebook.com slash Ian Westermann. Westermann is with 2 n's at the end, and Ian I A N. I'd love to be friends with you guys! [laughter] As long as you don't mind seeing my personal thoughts instead of just my tennis. I don't really post anything about tennis in that. Just personal updates.

Alright. That brings today's show to a close. Again, thank you guys so much for listening, for downloading the show. I really appreciate it. I'll be talking to you guys next week in the next installment in the Essential Tennis podcast. Until then, take care, and good luck with your tennis.


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Alright. Tudo bem. Before we get to our second question on today's show, I want to remind you all about the official sponsor of the Essential Tennis podcast. 今日のショーの 2 番目の質問に入る前に、Essential Tennis ポッドキャストの公式スポンサーについて思い出してもらいたいと思います。 Antes de chegarmos à nossa segunda pergunta no programa de hoje, quero lembrá-los sobre o patrocinador oficial do podcast Essential Tennis. That is Championship Tennis Tours. Isso é o Campeonato de Tênis Tours. You can find them online at tennistours.com. Você pode encontrá-los online em tennistours.com. They're a supporter of the Essential Tennis podcast, which I really appreciate. 彼らはEssentialTennisポッドキャストのサポーターです。本当に感謝しています。 Eles são um apoiador do podcast Essential Tennis, que eu realmente aprecio. To show your appreciation for their support of myself and the show, go check them out. To show your appreciation for their support of myself and the show, go check them out. 私とショーの彼らのサポートに対するあなたの感謝を示すために、彼らをチェックしてください。 Para mostrar seu apreço pelo apoio deles a mim e ao show, vá vê-los.

And if you're going to be going to a professional tennis event anytime in the future and you want tickets, travel arrangements, hotel accommodations, etc. また、将来いつでもプロのテニスイベントに参加する予定で、チケット、旅行の手配、ホテルの宿泊施設などが必要な場合。 E se você for a um evento de tênis profissional no futuro e quiser ingressos, organização de viagens, acomodações em hotel etc. definitely check them out first. 必ず最初にチェックしてください。 definitivamente verifique-os primeiro. See if they have tickets for the event that you're going to. あなたが行く予定のイベントのチケットを彼らが持っているかどうかを確認してください。 Veja se eles têm ingressos para o evento que você está indo. If they do, when you make your purchase, use the promotional code “essential” and you'll get a discount off your purchase. もしそうなら、あなたが購入をするとき、あなたはあなたの購入から割引を受けるでしょう「エッセンシャル」のプロモーションコードを使用してください。 Se o fizerem, ao fazer sua compra, use o código promocional “essencial” e você terá um desconto na sua compra. Plus, it will show them that you're a listener of the show, and you really appreciate their support. さらに、それはあなたがショーのリスナーであることを彼らに示します、そしてあなたは彼らのサポートに本当に感謝しています。 Além disso, mostrará a eles que você é um ouvinte do programa e que realmente aprecia o apoio deles. Which will help keep them on as a sponsor of the Essential Tennis podcast! これは、Essential Tennisポッドキャストのスポンサーとして彼らを維持するのに役立ちます! O que ajudará a mantê-los como patrocinadores do podcast Essential Tennis!

Alright. 大丈夫。 Tudo bem. Our last question on today's show comes to us from Vidron in Croatia. 今日のショーに関する最後の質問は、クロアチアのVidronから来ました。 Nossa última pergunta no programa de hoje vem da Vidron na Croácia. Vidron, [laughter] I'm really sorry. ヴィドロン、[笑い]本当にごめんなさい。 Vidron, [risos] Eu sinto muito. I'm probably killing your name, so I'll go ahead and just apologize up front. 私はおそらくあなたの名前を殺しているので、先に進んで前もって謝罪します。 Provavelmente estou matando seu nome, então vou em frente e peço desculpas logo de cara. I'm not sure what the correct pronunciation is, so please forgive me. 正しい発音がわかりませんので、ご容赦ください。 Eu não sei qual é a pronúncia correta, então por favor me perdoe. Vidron is a 3.5 player. Vidronは3.5プレーヤーです。 Vidron é um jogador de 3,5. Again, in Crotia. 繰り返しますが、クロアチアで。 Mais uma vez, na Crotia. He wrote and said: 彼は書いたと言った: Ele escreveu e disse:

“The thing that I want to get advice about is an experiment that I tried on my serve. “The thing that I want to get advice about is an experiment that I tried on my serve. 「アドバイスをもらいたいのは、サーブで試した実験です。 “O que eu quero saber é um experimento que eu tentei no meu saque. In trying to develop an aggressive and more powerful first serve while maintaining my second serve at its current level, I decided to change my toss, and throw the ball a bit lower and significantly more in front of my body to create more pace and more spin. セカンドサーブを現在のレベルに維持しながら、アグレッシブでパワフルなファーストサーブを開発するために、トスを変更し、ボールを少し低く、体の前にかなり多く投げて、ペースとスピンを増やすことにしました。 。 Ao tentar desenvolver um primeiro saque agressivo e mais poderoso, mantendo meu segundo saque em seu nível atual, decidi mudar meu lance e jogar a bola um pouco mais baixo e significativamente mais na frente do meu corpo para criar mais ritmo e mais giro . But more pace mainly. しかし、主にもっとペース。 Mas mais ritmo principalmente.

Unfortunately, this experiment led to losing my consistency on my second serve, and producing a whole lot more double faults than before. 残念ながら、この実験により、セカンドサーブでの一貫性が失われ、以前よりもはるかに多くのダブルフォールトが発生しました。 Infelizmente, esse experimento levou a perder minha consistência no meu segundo saque e a produzir muito mais duplas faltas do que antes. So my question is this: Is it recommendable to have 2 different types of service toss? だから私の質問はこれです:2つの異なるタイプのサービストスを持つことが推奨されますか? Então, minha pergunta é a seguinte: é recomendável ter 2 tipos diferentes de lance de serviço? Is it even possible considering the problems I've developed? 私が開発した問題を考慮することさえ可能ですか? É mesmo possível considerando os problemas que desenvolvi? And keeping in mind all those problems that pro-players often have with only 1 type of ball toss in various parts of their careers.” そして、プロプレーヤーがキャリアのさまざまな部分でたった1種類のボールトスでしばしば抱える問題をすべて念頭に置いてください。」 E tendo em mente todos os problemas que os jogadores profissionais costumam ter com apenas 1 tipo de lançamento de bola em várias partes de suas carreiras.”

Alright. So Vidron, do I recommend 2 totally different ball tosses and techniques? それで、Vidron、私は2つのまったく異なるボールトスとテクニックをお勧めしますか? Então Vidron, eu recomendo 2 lançamentos e técnicas de bola totalmente diferentes? Because that's what that would mean. それが意味するからです。 Porque isso é o que isso significaria. Basically, when you put your toss in a totally different spot, it changes the whole rest of your serve as well. 基本的に、トスをまったく別の場所に置くと、残りのサーブ全体も変更されます。 Basicamente, quando você coloca seu lance em um ponto totalmente diferente, isso muda todo o resto do seu saque também. You can't just make a big change to your toss and use the same technique. トスに大きな変更を加えて、同じテクニックを使用することはできません。 Você não pode simplesmente fazer uma grande mudança no seu lance e usar a mesma técnica. Everything else has to change to accommodate that new location. その新しい場所に対応するために、他のすべてを変更する必要があります。

So we're really talking about a completely different swing. ですから、私たちは本当にまったく異なるスイングについて話しているのです。 Short answer is no. 簡単な答えはノーです。 I definitely don't recommend that you do that. 絶対にお勧めしません。 Mostly for the sake of consistency and unity in your game. 主にゲームの一貫性と統一性のためです。 And it would mean twice as much work for you to continually try to improve 2 totally different serves than if you used basically the same toss, and small changes in your technique between your first and second serve. そして、基本的に同じトスを使用した場合と比べて、2つのまったく異なるサーブを継続的に改善しようとすると、2倍の作業が必要になり、1回目と2回目のサーブの間でテクニックが少し変わります。 If you tossed in essentially the same place between your first and second serve, you could keep things like your rhythm; the rotation of your body; your contact point. ファーストサーブとセカンドサーブの間で本質的に同じ場所に投げた場合、リズムのようなものを保つことができます。あなたの体の回転;あなたの連絡先。

Again, relatively speaking, all of those things could remain the same, whereas this big change that you're talking about much lower and much farther in front, all of those big technique elements have to be different. 繰り返しになりますが、比較的言えば、これらのことはすべて同じままである可能性がありますが、あなたが話しているこの大きな変化ははるかに低く、はるかに前にありますが、これらの大きな技術要素はすべて異なっている必要があります。 So we're talking about trying to develop 2 completely different service techniques. It doubles your work as a player as you try to continue to become better and better on the court.

I give this same answer when players ask me about something like maybe developing both the one handed and two handed back hand. Something else that I don't recommend for the same reason: it's 2 totally different swings, and it's just that much more to work on and try to improve as you try to get yourself to be a better player. The benefit almost never outweighs all that extra work.

This is especially since most of you listening I assume–probably over 90% of you listening–are just recreational players, people that have a regular job during the day. Or maybe you guys are students, and you have school during the day. You might have a couple of hours a week to practice and play. Maybe 2-4 hours at the most. You guys want to be smart about how you use your time. When you start really spreading out your asset of time, especially on the practice court as you try to improve your technique, doing things like this is just not something that I recommend.

Now this is unless your previous toss Vidron, if your previous toss was really high and it as far behind you, where you were constantly leaning backwards to get to the toss and it was super high so it kind of busted up your rhythm, and you had to wait for a long time to wait for the ball to get down. Тепер, якщо ваш попередній кидок Відрон, якщо ваш попередній кидок був дуже високим, і м'яч був далеко позаду вас, і ви постійно нахилялися назад, щоб дістатися до кидка, і він був дуже високим, так що це трохи збивало ваш ритм, і вам доводилося довго чекати, поки м'яч опуститься вниз. Unless that was the case, your change isn't going to lead towards better technique anyway. It sounds to me like you're trying to toss it low and kind of right in front of you, into the court a couple of feet, and probably making contact lower. [laughter] Basically, exactly what I was describing in my first topic today when I talked about bad habits on service technique. It sounds to me like you were trying to put it low right in front of you so you could make a low contact point and hit the ball just straight out in front of you into the box with a slightly open face to make sure that it makes it over the net.

This is really common technique, but it's definitely not a very athletic motion. It's not going to give you a lot of potential as far as developing a higher level serve in the future. Now a lot of players are very consistent hitting the ball this way. But it's not a technique that I like. Again, because it's just not very good as far as fundamental use of your body goes for creating pace and spin, etc. It's not going to leave you a lot of room for growth. Now there's one exception to all of this. I've told you that I don't like your idea. I don't like you having 2 totally different motions and tosses in general. I also don't like the idea of the specific technique you're talking about. However, there's one exception to both of those things. Previously, you were really struggling with your first serve, and weren't making it very often. This big toss change made an immediate improvement. Vidron has told us already that this hasn't worked out very well for him, but this is more for the rest of you listening. If that big toss change makes an immediate improvement and ultimately you're happy with the result, and in the long run, you're going to continue being happy with it, then fine. Go ahead and do it! Go ahead and make the change, and have fun playing. I don't think it's the best idea, and I also don't think it's the best technique. But if you see an immediate improvement in confidence and consistency, and you're happy with where it's at and you don't mind sacrificing some long-term potential for short-term success, then go ahead and do it. I want to make sure that I don't get too rigid and too strict about my views with technique. I know I have the tendency to do that: both on the podcast and in person.

Ultimately, all of you listening, it should be your goal to enjoy the game. To have fun. If you can make a quick, immediate improvement–even if it's not the best technique and you're going to be OK with the fact that it's not the best technique and it might limit you as far as potential a little down the road–go ahead and do it. But just keep in mind, it's not going to be my #1 suggestion! My #1 suggestion is always to be to learn the best possible technique, and work hard at it, and give yourself the best ceiling, your best change, to continue making yourself a better tennis player. I'm always going to be upfront with you guys about what changes will lead to the most long-term benefits, basically. It's always going to be the direction that I come at with my answers to your questions on this show. Those of you who comes out and work with me in person at a clinic, etc. That's always going to be my perspective, because that's just the way I think. I don't like shortcuts in general. [laughter] And tennis is no exception! I want you guys to learn the best possible technique. I just want you guys to know where I'm coming at in regards to that. So Vidron, thank you very much for your question. Hopefully you've got a good idea of what I recommend here. I'm sorry that your change didn't work out very well for you in general. Yes, I do recommend that you have some kind of unity between your first and second serve. They should be slightly different techniques, but I don't recommend that you use totally different serves for those 2. If you have a video camera, feel free to send me an e-mail with a video clip showing me your serve, and I'd be happy to give you some input. Some further input as far as specific technique is concerned.

But thank you very much for being a listener in Croatia. I appreciate it. Hopefully this episode has been a help to you!

Alright. That bring Episode #136 of the Essential Tennis podcast to a close. Thank you very much for joining me on today's show. I hope that you enjoyed it, and that it's been informative and helpful to you. And in wrapping up today, I wanted to remind you all about the different social networks that Essential Tennis is on. You can get updates on Twitter at Twitter.com slash Essential Tennis. You can also check out the Facebook fan page at Facebook.com slash Essential Tennis. And you can look at the instructional videos that I have posted at YouTube.com slash Essential Tennis. So go check all 3 of those pages out. Lots of good stuff in all 3.

And if you'd like to be friends with me on Facebook, you can check out my personal account as well, which is Facebook.com slash Ian Westermann. Westermann is with 2 n's at the end, and Ian I A N. I'd love to be friends with you guys! [laughter] As long as you don't mind seeing my personal thoughts instead of just my tennis. I don't really post anything about tennis in that. Just personal updates.

Alright. That brings today's show to a close. Again, thank you guys so much for listening, for downloading the show. I really appreciate it. I'll be talking to you guys next week in the next installment in the Essential Tennis podcast. Until then, take care, and good luck with your tennis.