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TED Talks, How to make stress your friend

How to make stress your friend

I have a confession to make, but first, I want you to make a little confession to me.

In the past year, I want you to just raise your hand

if you've experienced relatively little stress. Anyone?

How about a moderate amount of stress?

Who has experienced a lot of stress? Yeah. Me too.

But that is not my confession. My confession is this: I am a health psychologist, and my mission is to help people be happier and healthier. But I fear that something I've been teaching for the last 10 years is doing more harm than good, and it has to do with stress. For years I've been telling people, stress makes you sick. It increases the risk of everything from the common cold to cardiovascular disease. Basically, I've turned stress into the enemy. But I have changed my mind about stress, and today, I want to change yours.

Let me start with the study that made me rethink my whole approach to stress. This study tracked 30,000 adults in the United States for eight years, and they started by asking people, "How much stress have you experienced in the last year?" They also asked, "Do you believe that stress is harmful for your health?" And then they used public death records to find out who died.

(Laughter)

Okay. Some bad news first. People who experienced a lot of stress in the previous year had a 43 percent increased risk of dying. But that was only true for the people who also believed that stress is harmful for your health. (Laughter) People who experienced a lot of stress but did not view stress as harmful were no more likely to die. In fact, they had the lowest risk of dying of anyone in the study, including people who had relatively little stress.

Now the researchers estimated that over the eight years they were tracking deaths, 182,000 Americans died prematurely, not from stress, but from the belief that stress is bad for you. (Laughter) That is over 20,000 deaths a year. Now, if that estimate is correct, that would make believing stress is bad for you the 15th largest cause of death in the United States last year, killing more people than skin cancer, HIV/AIDS and homicide.

(Laughter)

You can see why this study freaked me out. Here I've been spending so much energy telling people stress is bad for your health. So this study got me wondering: Can changing how you think about stress make you healthier? And here the science says yes. When you change your mind about stress, you can change your body's response to stress. Now to explain how this works, I want you all to pretend that you are participants in a study designed to stress you out. It's called the social stress test. You come into the laboratory, and you're told you have to give a five-minute impromptu speech on your personal weaknesses to a panel of expert evaluators sitting right in front of you, and to make sure you feel the pressure, there are bright lights and a camera in your face, kind of like this. And the evaluators have been trained to give you discouraging, non-verbal feedback like this.

(Laughter)

Now that you're sufficiently demoralized, time for part two: a math test. And unbeknownst to you, the experimenter has been trained to harass you during it. Now we're going to all do this together. It's going to be fun. For me.

Okay. I want you all to count backwards from 996 in increments of seven. You're going to do this out loud as fast as you can, starting with 996. Go! Audience: (Counting) Go faster. Faster please. You're going too slow. Stop. Stop, stop, stop. That guy made a mistake. We are going to have to start all over again. (Laughter) You're not very good at this, are you? Okay, so you get the idea. Now, if you were actually in this study, you'd probably be a little stressed out. Your heart might be pounding, you might be breathing faster, maybe breaking out into a sweat. And normally, we interpret these physical changes as anxiety or signs that we aren't coping very well with the pressure. But what if you viewed them instead as signs that your body was energized, was preparing you to meet this challenge? Now that is exactly what participants were told in a study conducted at Harvard University. Before they went through the social stress test, they were taught to rethink their stress response as helpful. That pounding heart is preparing you for action. If you're breathing faster, it's no problem. It's getting more oxygen to your brain. And participants who learned to view the stress response as helpful for their performance, well, they were less stressed out, less anxious, more confident, but the most fascinating finding to me was how their physical stress response changed. Now, in a typical stress response, your heart rate goes up, and your blood vessels constrict like this. And this is one of the reasons that chronic stress is sometimes associated with cardiovascular disease. It's not really healthy to be in this state all the time. But in the study, when participants viewed their stress response as helpful, their blood vessels stayed relaxed like this. Their heart was still pounding, but this is a much healthier cardiovascular profile. It actually looks a lot like what happens in moments of joy and courage. Over a lifetime of stressful experiences, this one biological change could be the difference between a stress-induced heart attack at age 50 and living well into your 90s. And this is really what the new science of stress reveals, that how you think about stress matters.

So my goal as a health psychologist has changed. I no longer want to get rid of your stress. I want to make you better at stress. And we just did a little intervention. If you raised your hand and said you'd had a lot of stress in the last year, we could have saved your life, because hopefully the next time your heart is pounding from stress, you're going to remember this talk and you're going to think to yourself, this is my body helping me rise to this challenge. And when you view stress in that way, your body believes you, and your stress response becomes healthier.

Now I said I have over a decade of demonizing stress to redeem myself from, so we are going to do one more intervention. I want to tell you about one of the most under-appreciated aspects of the stress response, and the idea is this: Stress makes you social.

To understand this side of stress, we need to talk about a hormone, oxytocin, and I know oxytocin has already gotten as much hype as a hormone can get. It even has its own cute nickname, the cuddle hormone, because it's released when you hug someone. But this is a very small part of what oxytocin is involved in. Oxytocin is a neuro-hormone. It fine-tunes your brain's social instincts. It primes you to do things that strengthen close relationships. Oxytocin makes you crave physical contact with your friends and family. It enhances your empathy. It even makes you more willing to help and support the people you care about. Some people have even suggested we should snort oxytocin to become more compassionate and caring. But here's what most people don't understand about oxytocin. It's a stress hormone. Your pituitary gland pumps this stuff out as part of the stress response. It's as much a part of your stress response as the adrenaline that makes your heart pound. And when oxytocin is released in the stress response, it is motivating you to seek support. Your biological stress response is nudging you to tell someone how you feel instead of bottling it up. Your stress response wants to make sure you notice when someone else in your life is struggling so that you can support each other. When life is difficult, your stress response wants you to be surrounded by people who care about you.

Okay, so how is knowing this side of stress going to make you healthier? Well, oxytocin doesn't only act on your brain. It also acts on your body, and one of its main roles in your body is to protect your cardiovascular system from the effects of stress. It's a natural anti-inflammatory. It also helps your blood vessels stay relaxed during stress. But my favorite effect on the body is actually on the heart. Your heart has receptors for this hormone, and oxytocin helps heart cells regenerate and heal from any stress-induced damage. This stress hormone strengthens your heart, and the cool thing is that all of these physical benefits of oxytocin are enhanced by social contact and social support, so when you reach out to others under stress, either to seek support or to help someone else, you release more of this hormone, your stress response becomes healthier, and you actually recover faster from stress. I find this amazing, that your stress response has a built-in mechanism for stress resilience, and that mechanism is human connection.

I want to finish by telling you about one more study. And listen up, because this study could also save a life. This study tracked about 1,000 adults in the United States, and they ranged in age from 34 to 93, and they started the study by asking, "How much stress have you experienced in the last year?" They also asked, "How much time have you spent helping out friends, neighbors, people in your community?" And then they used public records for the next five years to find out who died.

Okay, so the bad news first: For every major stressful life experience, like financial difficulties or family crisis, that increased the risk of dying by 30 percent. But -- and I hope you are expecting a but by now -- but that wasn't true for everyone. People who spent time caring for others showed absolutely no stress-related increase in dying. Zero. Caring created resilience. And so we see once again that the harmful effects of stress on your health are not inevitable. How you think and how you act can transform your experience of stress. When you choose to view your stress response as helpful, you create the biology of courage. And when you choose to connect with others under stress, you can create resilience. Now I wouldn't necessarily ask for more stressful experiences in my life, but this science has given me a whole new appreciation for stress. Stress gives us access to our hearts. The compassionate heart that finds joy and meaning in connecting with others, and yes, your pounding physical heart, working so hard to give you strength and energy, and when you choose to view stress in this way, you're not just getting better at stress, you're actually making a pretty profound statement. You're saying that you can trust yourself to handle life's challenges, and you're remembering that you don't have to face them alone. Thank you.

(Applause)

Chris Anderson: This is kind of amazing, what you're telling us. It seems amazing to me that a belief about stress can make so much difference to someone's life expectancy. How would that extend to advice, like, if someone is making a lifestyle choice between, say, a stressful job and a non-stressful job, does it matter which way they go? It's equally wise to go for the stressful job so long as you believe that you can handle it, in some sense? Kelly McGonigal: Yeah, and one thing we know for certain is that chasing meaning is better for your health than trying to avoid discomfort. And so I would say that's really the best way to make decisions, is go after what it is that creates meaning in your life and then trust yourself to handle the stress that follows. CA: Thank you so much, Kelly. It's pretty cool. KM: Thank you.

(Applause)

How to make stress your friend ストレスを味方につける方法 Como fazer do stress seu amigo 如何让压力成为你的朋友

I have a confession to make, but first, I want you to make a little confession to me. 私は告白する必要がありますが、まず私に少し告白してほしいです。

In the past year, I want you to just raise your hand في العام الماضي ، أريدك أن ترفع يدك فقط 去年は手を挙げて欲しい

if you've experienced relatively little stress. ストレスが比較的少ない場合。 Anyone? 誰でも?

How about a moderate amount of stress?

Who has experienced a lot of stress? Yeah. Me too.

But that is not my confession. My confession is this: I am a health psychologist, and my mission is to help people be happier and healthier. But I fear that something I've been teaching for the last 10 years is doing more harm than good, and it has to do with stress. しかし、私が過去10年間教えてきたことは、善よりも害を及ぼすことを恐れており、それはストレスに関係しています。 For years I've been telling people, stress makes you sick. It increases the risk of everything from the common cold to cardiovascular disease. Aumenta il rischio di tutto, dal comune raffreddore alle malattie cardiovascolari. Basically, I've turned stress into the enemy. But I have changed my mind about stress, and today, I want to change yours. Ma ho cambiato idea sullo stress e oggi voglio cambiare la vostra.

Let me start with the study that made me rethink my whole approach to stress. This study tracked 30,000 adults in the United States for eight years, and they started by asking people, "How much stress have you experienced in the last year?" Este estudo acompanhou 30.000 adultos nos Estados Unidos por oito anos e eles começaram perguntando às pessoas: "Quanto estresse você experimentou no último ano?" They also asked, "Do you believe that stress is harmful for your health?" And then they used public death records to find out who died. E poi hanno usato i registri pubblici dei decessi per scoprire chi è morto.

(Laughter)

Okay. Some bad news first. People who experienced a lot of stress in the previous year had a 43 percent increased risk of dying. But that was only true for the people who also believed that stress is harmful for your health. (Laughter) People who experienced a lot of stress but did not view stress as harmful were no more likely to die. In fact, they had the lowest risk of dying of anyone in the study, including people who had relatively little stress.

Now the researchers estimated that over the eight years they were tracking deaths, 182,000 Americans died prematurely, not from stress, but from the belief that stress is bad for you. (Laughter) That is over 20,000 deaths a year. (Risate) Si tratta di oltre 20.000 morti all'anno. Now, if that estimate is correct, that would make believing stress is bad for you the 15th largest cause of death in the United States last year, killing more people than skin cancer, HIV/AIDS and homicide.

(Laughter)

You can see why this study freaked me out. Here I've been spending so much energy telling people stress is bad for your health. So this study got me wondering: Can changing how you think about stress make you healthier? Questo studio mi ha fatto riflettere: Cambiare il modo di pensare allo stress può renderci più sani? Portanto, este estudo me fez pensar: mudar a maneira de pensar sobre o estresse pode torná-lo mais saudável? And here the science says yes. When you change your mind about stress, you can change your body's response to stress. Now to explain how this works, I want you all to pretend that you are participants in a study designed to stress you out. Per spiegare come funziona, voglio che tutti voi facciate finta di partecipare a uno studio progettato per stressarvi. Agora, para explicar como isso funciona, quero que todos finjam que são participantes de um estudo projetado para enfatizar você. It's called the social stress test. You come into the laboratory, and you're told you have to give a five-minute impromptu speech on your personal weaknesses to a panel of expert evaluators sitting right in front of you, and to make sure you feel the pressure, there are bright lights and a camera in your face, kind of like this. Entrate nel laboratorio e vi viene detto che dovete fare un discorso improvvisato di cinque minuti sulle vostre debolezze personali a un gruppo di valutatori esperti seduti proprio di fronte a voi e, per farvi sentire la pressione, ci sono luci forti e una telecamera puntata in faccia, più o meno così. And the evaluators have been trained to give you discouraging, non-verbal feedback like this.

(Laughter)

Now that you're sufficiently demoralized, time for part two: a math test. And unbeknownst to you, the experimenter has been trained to harass you during it. E, sem o seu conhecimento, o pesquisador foi treinado para assediá-lo durante ele. Now we're going to all do this together. It's going to be fun. For me.

Okay. I want you all to count backwards from 996 in increments of seven. Voglio che contiate tutti all'indietro a partire da 996 con incrementi di sette. Quero que todos vocês contem de 996 para trás em incrementos de sete. You're going to do this out loud as fast as you can, starting with 996. Go! Audience: (Counting) Go faster. Faster please. You're going too slow. Stop. Stop, stop, stop. That guy made a mistake. We are going to have to start all over again. (Laughter) You're not very good at this, are you? Okay, so you get the idea. Now, if you were actually in this study, you'd probably be a little stressed out. Your heart might be pounding, you might be breathing faster, maybe breaking out into a sweat. Seu coração pode estar batendo forte, você pode estar respirando mais rápido, talvez começando a suar. And normally, we interpret these physical changes as anxiety or signs that we aren't coping very well with the pressure. But what if you viewed them instead as signs that your body was energized, was preparing you to meet this challenge? Now that is exactly what participants were told in a study conducted at Harvard University. Before they went through the social stress test, they were taught to rethink their stress response as helpful. That pounding heart is preparing you for action. If you're breathing faster, it's no problem. It's getting more oxygen to your brain. And participants who learned to view the stress response as helpful for their performance, well, they were less stressed out, less anxious, more confident, but the most fascinating finding to me was how their physical stress response changed. Now, in a typical stress response, your heart rate goes up, and your blood vessels constrict like this. In una tipica risposta allo stress, la frequenza cardiaca aumenta e i vasi sanguigni si restringono in questo modo. Agora, em uma resposta típica ao estresse, sua frequência cardíaca aumenta e seus vasos sanguíneos se contraem assim. And this is one of the reasons that chronic stress is sometimes associated with cardiovascular disease. It's not really healthy to be in this state all the time. But in the study, when participants viewed their stress response as helpful, their blood vessels stayed relaxed like this. Their heart was still pounding, but this is a much healthier cardiovascular profile. It actually looks a lot like what happens in moments of joy and courage. Over a lifetime of stressful experiences, this one biological change could be the difference between a stress-induced heart attack at age 50 and living well into your 90s. And this is really what the new science of stress reveals, that how you think about stress matters. E isso é realmente o que a nova ciência do estresse revela, que a maneira como você pensa sobre o estresse é importante.

So my goal as a health psychologist has changed. Então, meu objetivo como psicólogo da saúde mudou. I no longer want to get rid of your stress. I want to make you better at stress. Voglio rendervi più bravi a gestire lo stress. And we just did a little intervention. If you raised your hand and said you'd had a lot of stress in the last year, we could have saved your life, because hopefully the next time your heart is pounding from stress, you're going to remember this talk and you're going to think to yourself, this is my body helping me rise to this challenge. Se você levantou a mão e disse que teve muito estresse no ano passado, poderíamos ter salvado sua vida, porque espero que da próxima vez que seu coração esteja acelerado, você vai se lembrar dessa conversa e vou pensar consigo mesmo, esse é o meu corpo me ajudando a enfrentar esse desafio. And when you view stress in that way, your body believes you, and your stress response becomes healthier.

Now I said I have over a decade of demonizing stress to redeem myself from, so we are going to do one more intervention. Agora eu disse que tenho mais de uma década demonizando o estresse para me redimir, então faremos mais uma intervenção. I want to tell you about one of the most under-appreciated aspects of the stress response, and the idea is this: Stress makes you social. Quero falar sobre um dos aspectos mais subestimados da resposta ao estresse, e a idéia é a seguinte: O estresse o torna social.

To understand this side of stress, we need to talk about a hormone, oxytocin, and I know oxytocin has already gotten as much hype as a hormone can get. Per comprendere questo aspetto dello stress, dobbiamo parlare di un ormone, l'ossitocina, e so che l'ossitocina ha già ricevuto tutto il clamore possibile per un ormone. Para entender esse lado do estresse, precisamos falar sobre um hormônio, a ocitocina, e eu sei que a ocitocina já recebeu tanto hype quanto um hormônio. It even has its own cute nickname, the cuddle hormone, because it's released when you hug someone. Ha anche un soprannome simpatico, l'ormone delle coccole, perché viene rilasciato quando si abbraccia qualcuno. Ele ainda tem seu próprio apelido fofo, o hormônio do carinho, porque é liberado quando você abraça alguém. But this is a very small part of what oxytocin is involved in. Oxytocin is a neuro-hormone. A ocitocina é um neuro-hormônio. It fine-tunes your brain's social instincts. Ele ajusta os instintos sociais do seu cérebro. It primes you to do things that strengthen close relationships. Isso o leva a fazer coisas que fortalecem relacionamentos íntimos. Oxytocin makes you crave physical contact with your friends and family. L'ossitocina fa desiderare il contatto fisico con gli amici e i familiari. A ocitocina faz com que você deseje contato físico com seus amigos e familiares. It enhances your empathy. Aumenta l'empatia. Isso aumenta sua empatia. It even makes you more willing to help and support the people you care about. E vi rende anche più disposti ad aiutare e sostenere le persone a cui tenete. Isso o deixa ainda mais disposto a ajudar e apoiar as pessoas de quem você gosta. Some people have even suggested we should snort oxytocin to become more compassionate and caring. Alcuni hanno persino suggerito di sniffare ossitocina per diventare più compassionevoli e premurosi. Algumas pessoas até sugeriram que devemos cheirar a ocitocina para nos tornarmos mais compassivos e cuidadosos. But here's what most people don't understand about oxytocin. It's a stress hormone. Your pituitary gland pumps this stuff out as part of the stress response. La ghiandola pituitaria pompa questa sostanza come parte della risposta allo stress. It's as much a part of your stress response as the adrenaline that makes your heart pound. É tanto uma parte da sua resposta ao estresse quanto a adrenalina que faz seu coração bater. And when oxytocin is released in the stress response, it is motivating you to seek support. Your biological stress response is nudging you to tell someone how you feel instead of bottling it up. La vostra risposta biologica allo stress vi spinge a dire a qualcuno come vi sentite invece di imbottigliarlo. Sua resposta ao estresse biológico está lhe incentivando a contar a alguém como você se sente, em vez de engarrafá-lo. Your stress response wants to make sure you notice when someone else in your life is struggling so that you can support each other. Sua resposta ao estresse quer ter certeza de que você notará quando alguém na sua vida está lutando para que você possa se apoiar. Ваша реакція на стрес хоче переконатися, що ви помічаєте, коли хтось інший у вашому житті бореться, щоб ви могли підтримувати один одного. When life is difficult, your stress response wants you to be surrounded by people who care about you. Quando a vida é difícil, sua resposta ao estresse quer que você seja cercado por pessoas que se importam com você.

Okay, so how is knowing this side of stress going to make you healthier? Ok, então como é que conhecer esse lado do estresse vai torná-lo mais saudável? Well, oxytocin doesn't only act on your brain. Bem, a ocitocina não age apenas no seu cérebro. It also acts on your body, and one of its main roles in your body is to protect your cardiovascular system from the effects of stress. Ele também atua no seu corpo, e um de seus principais papéis no corpo é proteger o sistema cardiovascular dos efeitos do estresse. It's a natural anti-inflammatory. É um anti-inflamatório natural. It also helps your blood vessels stay relaxed during stress. Também ajuda os vasos sanguíneos a permanecerem relaxados durante o estresse. But my favorite effect on the body is actually on the heart. Your heart has receptors for this hormone, and oxytocin helps heart cells regenerate and heal from any stress-induced damage. Seu coração possui receptores para esse hormônio, e a ocitocina ajuda as células cardíacas a se regenerarem e a curarem de qualquer dano induzido pelo estresse. This stress hormone strengthens your heart, and the cool thing is that all of these physical benefits of oxytocin are enhanced by social contact and social support, so when you reach out to others under stress, either to seek support or to help someone else, you release more of this hormone, your stress response becomes healthier, and you actually recover faster from stress. Esse hormônio do estresse fortalece seu coração, e o interessante é que todos esses benefícios físicos da ocitocina são aprimorados pelo contato social e apoio social; portanto, quando você se aproxima de outras pessoas sob estresse, procura apoio ou ajuda a alguém, você Ao liberar mais esse hormônio, sua resposta ao estresse se torna mais saudável e você se recupera mais rapidamente do estresse. I find this amazing, that your stress response has a built-in mechanism for stress resilience, and that mechanism is human connection. Acho isso incrível que sua resposta ao estresse tenha um mecanismo interno para a resiliência ao estresse e esse mecanismo seja a conexão humana.

I want to finish by telling you about one more study. And listen up, because this study could also save a life. E ouça, porque este estudo também pode salvar uma vida. This study tracked about 1,000 adults in the United States, and they ranged in age from 34 to 93, and they started the study by asking, "How much stress have you experienced in the last year?" Este estudo acompanhou cerca de 1.000 adultos nos Estados Unidos, com idades entre 34 e 93 anos e iniciou o estudo perguntando: "Quanto estresse você experimentou no ano passado?" They also asked, "How much time have you spent helping out friends, neighbors, people in your community?" Eles também perguntaram: "Quanto tempo você passou ajudando amigos, vizinhos, pessoas da sua comunidade?" And then they used public records for the next five years to find out who died. E então eles usaram registros públicos pelos próximos cinco anos para descobrir quem morreu.

Okay, so the bad news first: For every major stressful life experience, like financial difficulties or family crisis, that increased the risk of dying by 30 percent. Ok, primeiro as más notícias: para todas as principais experiências estressantes da vida, como dificuldades financeiras ou crises familiares, que aumentavam o risco de morrer em 30%. But -- and I hope you are expecting a but by now -- but that wasn't true for everyone. Mas - e espero que você esteja esperando um mas agora - mas isso não era verdade para todos. People who spent time caring for others showed absolutely no stress-related increase in dying. Le persone che hanno trascorso del tempo a prendersi cura degli altri non hanno mostrato alcun aumento della mortalità legato allo stress. As pessoas que passaram algum tempo cuidando dos outros não mostraram absolutamente nenhum aumento relacionado ao estresse na morte. Zero. Caring created resilience. Cuidar criou resiliência. And so we see once again that the harmful effects of stress on your health are not inevitable. E, assim, vemos mais uma vez que os efeitos nocivos do estresse na sua saúde não são inevitáveis. How you think and how you act can transform your experience of stress. When you choose to view your stress response as helpful, you create the biology of courage. Ao optar por ver sua resposta ao estresse como útil, você cria a biologia da coragem. And when you choose to connect with others under stress, you can create resilience. E quando você escolhe se conectar com outras pessoas sob estresse, pode criar resiliência. Now I wouldn't necessarily ask for more stressful experiences in my life, but this science has given me a whole new appreciation for stress. Agora, eu não pediria necessariamente experiências mais estressantes na minha vida, mas essa ciência me deu uma nova apreciação pelo estresse. Stress gives us access to our hearts. O estresse nos dá acesso aos nossos corações. The compassionate heart that finds joy and meaning in connecting with others, and yes, your pounding physical heart, working so hard to give you strength and energy, and when you choose to view stress in this way, you're not just getting better at stress, you're actually making a pretty profound statement. O coração compassivo que encontra alegria e significado ao se conectar com os outros, e sim, seu coração físico batendo forte, trabalhando tanto para lhe dar força e energia, e quando você escolhe ver o estresse dessa maneira, não está apenas melhorando estresse, você está realmente fazendo uma declaração bastante profunda. You're saying that you can trust yourself to handle life's challenges, and you're remembering that you don't have to face them alone. Você está dizendo que pode confiar em si mesmo para lidar com os desafios da vida e está lembrando que não precisa enfrentá-los sozinho. Thank you.

(Applause)

Chris Anderson: This is kind of amazing, what you're telling us. Chris Anderson: Isso é incrível, o que você está nos dizendo. It seems amazing to me that a belief about stress can make so much difference to someone's life expectancy. Parece-me surpreendente que uma crença sobre o estresse possa fazer muita diferença na expectativa de vida de alguém. How would that extend to advice, like, if someone is making a lifestyle choice between, say, a stressful job and a non-stressful job, does it matter which way they go? Como isso se estenderia a conselhos, como, se alguém está escolhendo um estilo de vida entre, digamos, um trabalho estressante e um trabalho não estressante, importa para que lado eles vão? It's equally wise to go for the stressful job so long as you believe that you can handle it, in some sense? È altrettanto saggio scegliere un lavoro stressante, purché si creda di poterlo gestire, in un certo senso? É igualmente sensato ir para o trabalho estressante, desde que você acredite que possa lidar com isso, em algum sentido? Kelly McGonigal: Yeah, and one thing we know for certain is that chasing meaning is better for your health than trying to avoid discomfort. Kelly McGonigal: Sim, e uma coisa que sabemos com certeza é que buscar significado é melhor para sua saúde do que tentar evitar desconforto. And so I would say that's really the best way to make decisions, is go after what it is that creates meaning in your life and then trust yourself to handle the stress that follows. E então eu diria que essa é realmente a melhor maneira de tomar decisões, é buscar o que cria significado em sua vida e depois confiar em si mesmo para lidar com o estresse que se segue. CA: Thank you so much, Kelly. It's pretty cool. إنه رائع جدًا. KM: Thank you.

(Applause)