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The Making of Modern Ukraine, Class 10. Global Empires (5)

Class 10. Global Empires (5)

I'll tell the longer version, Hitler thinks this too.

Hitler thinks that Ukraine is a Kornkammer.

It's a breadbasket.

It's an unlimited supply of food.

He thinks that the Ukrainian peasants are,

in his imagination, the way that the Africans are,

and his analogies towards Ukraine,

although he has many, he uses India, he uses America,

he applies India and America as well,

but the main way he thinks about Ukraine

is from a colonial imaginary that comes from Africa.

So he describes the Ukrainians in Africanizing terms

for a very simple reason.

This is when Hitler grew up.

This is the kind of European imperialism which was going on.

Those are the colonies that Germany lost

in the First World War, were African colonies.

So all down the line,

until we get to the end of this class, it matters,

you know, it matters in three ways,

as I've been trying to say, that the period between,

let's say, 1500 and 1950 is a period of European empire.

It matters because events happen on a different pace,

that things simply are connected in a way

that they aren't before 1500.

It matters because of the various ways people can think

about the world now that the world is all connected.

But thirdly, it also matters because of the kind

of empire or the ideas of empire that are relevant.

Neither Hitler, and we'll get to this,

nor Stalin could've thought about Ukraine

the way that they did without the European domination

of the rest of the world.

Hitler thinks of Ukraine in an Africanizing way.

When Stalin thinks of Ukraine, he says,

"We don't have far-flung maritime empire

the way the British and the French do.

Therefore, we have to carry out something

called internal colonization," right?

So that thought, how everyone judges that thought,

that thought is not possible without the existence,

the transparent example,

the simple everyday facticity of European empire.

Okay, so as I say, I hope that that wasn't too oppressive

and that if it was oppressive,

it was also at least somewhat entertaining.

This is background, right?

This is structure.

These are things that, if we have them in mind,

it will help make some of the events

in our region make more sense.

And don't worry.

I'm going to get back to the Kazaks and the Ottoman Empire

and the Crimean Tatars in earnest on Tuesday.

I'm looking forward to it.

Thanks for being here.

(soft music)

Class 10. Global Empires (5) Klasse 10. Globale Reiche (5) Klas 10. Wereldrijken (5) Klasa 10. Globalne imperia (5) Aula 10. Impérios globais (5)

I'll tell the longer version, Hitler thinks this too.

Hitler thinks that Ukraine is a Kornkammer. Hitler denkt dat Oekraïne een Kornkammer is.

It's a breadbasket.

It's an unlimited supply of food.

He thinks that the Ukrainian peasants are,

in his imagination, the way that the Africans are,

and his analogies towards Ukraine,

although he has many, he uses India, he uses America,

he applies India and America as well,

but the main way he thinks about Ukraine

is from a colonial imaginary that comes from Africa.

So he describes the Ukrainians in Africanizing terms

for a very simple reason.

This is when Hitler grew up.

This is the kind of European imperialism which was going on.

Those are the colonies that Germany lost

in the First World War, were African colonies.

So all down the line, Dus allemaal langs de lijn,

until we get to the end of this class, it matters,

you know, it matters in three ways,

as I've been trying to say, that the period between,

let's say, 1500 and 1950 is a period of European empire.

It matters because events happen on a different pace,

that things simply are connected in a way

that they aren't before 1500.

It matters because of the various ways people can think

about the world now that the world is all connected.

But thirdly, it also matters because of the kind

of empire or the ideas of empire that are relevant.

Neither Hitler, and we'll get to this,

nor Stalin could've thought about Ukraine

the way that they did without the European domination

of the rest of the world.

Hitler thinks of Ukraine in an Africanizing way.

When Stalin thinks of Ukraine, he says,

"We don't have far-flung maritime empire "У нас нет далекой морской империи.

the way the British and the French do. так, как это делают англичане и французы.

Therefore, we have to carry out something Поэтому мы должны что-то предпринять.

called internal colonization," right? называемой внутренней колонизацией", верно?

So that thought, how everyone judges that thought,

that thought is not possible without the existence,

the transparent example,

the simple everyday facticity of European empire.

Okay, so as I say, I hope that that wasn't too oppressive

and that if it was oppressive,

it was also at least somewhat entertaining. het was ook op zijn minst enigszins vermakelijk.

This is background, right?

This is structure.

These are things that, if we have them in mind,

it will help make some of the events

in our region make more sense.

And don't worry.

I'm going to get back to the Kazaks and the Ottoman Empire

and the Crimean Tatars in earnest on Tuesday.

I'm looking forward to it.

Thanks for being here.

(soft music)