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English LingQ 2.0 Podcast, English LingQ 2.0 Podcast #9: Wellness, Self Care and Going Sober in 2021 II

English LingQ 2.0 Podcast #9: Wellness, Self Care and Going Sober in 2021 II

Shelby: Yeah, we, um, my, we had some friends staying with us here and they were drinking like a nice bottle of red wine and talking about how good it was. And I'm like hanging out, like I'm not gonna be able to taste it. And then. I asked if I could take a sip and spit it out and... cause I just wanted to taste it.

Uh, at first my roommate said, no, cause it's too expensive, but you know, that's how you really taste wine, right? Like if you were actually going to a wine tasting.

Elle: Yeah. True. They didn't let you? So you didn't do it?

Shelby: Um, this also reminds me that something that, um, can help, like has helped me. And I don't know, it sounds like you're maybe kind of doing something like this is to have like another drink that you can have in place of the um, alcoholic beverage, like some, I really like sparkling wines, like Prosecco and stuff. So, um, I'm really into like sparkling water that I can, and I can add fun stuff into it, like squeeze an orange into it or add some mint to it. Or I made this, um, this like lavender extract last year, um, which is really nice, like put in some sparkling water too.

So something fun like that, that you can like actively enjoy while other people are drinking and I have found to be helpful.

Elle: And put it in a wine glass, just a fancy, fancy glass always helps I find that as well.

Shelby: Totally. What is the, what's the fake beer you're drinking?

Elle: It's just, um, a Canadian supermarket brand, um, blonde beer.

I I've tried a bunch of different ones. Like Budweiser has one. Um, I can't remember the popular beer brands that have, Oh, Heineken has a fake, not a fake beer. I guess it's dealcoholized beer. It Is beer, but just no alcohol in it. Taken out afterwards? I don't know how it works.

Shelby: Right.

Elle: But yeah, this is just a, um, Canadian like supermarket brand and it is good.

I think it tastes great. So...

Shelby: Good.

Elle: I drank that. And some, I also drink kombucha, which I've always loved and used to make until it exploded in my kitchen. And I, I don't make it anymore.

Shelby: No!

Elle: It's dangerous making kombucha.

Shelby: Did it really explode?

Elle: Yeah, it's um, It ferments in a bottle and you need to put a lid on the bottle. So the tea, I don't know how, um, if you know much about it, there's like a SCOBY, which is like a bacteria, yeast, bacteria chunk.

It's kind of gross looking and you put a sugary tea in to a glass bottle with the SCOBY and the SCOBY eats the sugar and, um, ferments. Um, the drink is quite vinegary and, um, yeah, it's effervescent. So yeah. It's if you leave it in too long, it can explode and yeah, that happened to me. And there was, I put blueberries in it so that it looked like I'd murdered someone in my kitchen.

It was just red splatters all over the ceiling.

Shelby: Were you, were you in there when that happened?

Elle: Yes. Yeah, because I actually, it didn't just explode out of nowhere. I was in the process of opening it to, to try it and see if it was done. And it, I I'd left it in a bit long. So it was, it's one of those like Ikea glass bottles with the, like a champagne bottle, you know, with the pop, the little plastic pop off.

And it just, yeah, I gave it a little touch and it just exploded everywhere.

Shelby: Oh my gosh.

Elle: It was kind of fun. I screamed and the neighbors must have thought. Someone had been shot.

Shelby: So not just another day at Elle's house?

Elle: No.

No, but, uh, it was delicious. What was left was delicious. So...

Shelby: Great. That's a silver lining.

Elle: Yeah, right?. Um, how were you finding exercise? Like how are you finding the motivation to exercise? Because that's something I'm finding really difficult right now? And I don't know if it's just generally or COVID/work from home/world is crazy. I don't know.

Shelby: Well, and let's not forget that, that you're a mom. You've got a little kid that you're also taking care of while working from home.

And, um, I I'm sure you get a lot of exercise just like chasing him around.

Elle: Yes, that is true. That's very true.

Shelby: I have the luxury of not having any dependents right now. So, um, there's also just that. Um, but it's, it's also like incremental. Um, so I started, um, getting back into exercising from home at some point last year.

Um, and I've been aiming to do three times a week for like a year and a half, but I was barely even doing twice a week at the beginning of last year. Um, so I started with one, like at the beginning of last year. And I said, I just need to like, stick to that since like going from zero to three is hard, you know?

And if you try to do that and you fail, then every week you're just failing. So I said, let me go from zero to one and like, get that down. And so that's what I would do. And then I finally felt pretty comfortable with that. So I said, okay, like, I kinda know how long this takes. I'm going to add in another one.

And I did that for several months, um, from around the halfway point of last year until, um, the beginning of this year. And then I said, okay, like, I need to just add one more day in. And that's all you're doing every time. It's just adding one more day in. Um, I like working out from home. I've always liked working out from home and I know a lot of people prefer the gym.

So that's a, I guess, an advantage I have that I just prefer to do it at home. Um, but it's also fast. Like I don't spend an hour and a half working out. I... if I'm like really focused, I can get through it all in probably about 35 minutes. Um, so it's not a huge time commitment either. And I find, um, now that I'm becoming aware of how I connect, like my feelings to,

uh, I like, I, I guess I've just become more aware of the fact that, um, I'm a really anxious person and the anxiety lives a lot, like in my head. And so I've just started to correlate a remedy, um, of, of anxiety with doing something physical. So maybe it's not going to be working out every time. Maybe it is going on a walk or doing yoga.

So like lower intensity stuff. Um, But sometimes I'm like, so, I'm like feeling so like hyperactive about my anxiety that, um, I'm like, well, let me just like channel this energy into something good. And I start like doing some squats and some curls. And you find that like, you're kind of getting that energy out, you know?

Elle: Yeah. Hundred percent. Yeah.

I agree with that. Totally. Yeah.

Working like, like you said, like out the head working out of the head, through the body. I definitely, when I'm anxious, um, find that, yeah, I'll go... I even say to my husband, like had a lot of anxious energy, so I did X, um, it's usually like something around the house, um, because yeah, w why not instead of, um, and nothing wrong with, you know, sometimes I will just lay down and just kind of try and figure things out, but I find the most helpful thing is actually to get up and do something to

move move through it instead of letting it sit in you and just.Make you annoyed and upset.

Shelby: Right.

Elle: So, yeah. Yeah.

Shelby: And we're so...

Elle: Especially now there's lots to be anxious.

Shelby: Yeah.

And we've become so sedentary. I mean, like we used to just like walk more in our regular lives because like you walk from your front door to the car and into the office, et cetera.

So like you, I found, I really have to kind of manufacturer those experiences. Whereas before I was just moving more and as you said, like you move into it and the movement and activity, um, helps you just get out of your own head.

Elle: Yeah. So you, um, so your plan then is to, because I saw that you have like a spreadsheet you're super organized. I love that. Your plan is to hit, like not break the chain, hit your weekly goal throughout 2021 and then maybe beyond, is that, is that the, the idea?

Shelby: Yeah, I think we'll see how, um, how it goes this year.

And, um, when it comes to, like, most of the habits are just related to like daily, um, health and nutrition stuff, and like the no... not drinking piece, I decided to just like be sober for a year, but who knows? Like maybe after this year, I'm going to say, I like how I feel and I don't want to reintegrate that into my life.

More, more than likely. I'm probably going to, like, significantly cut back on my drinking and, you know, um, yeah, cause again, like I'm going to be a lot healthier if I only drink once a month, you know, than like every week or every day. And that doesn't mean that I failed myself necessarily. Um, like if there's an opportunity to drink and I want to, then I will.

But yeah, the goal with all of them is to not break the chain, but I already like missed two days of yoga this year. I entered that in my sheet, but I just keep moving and like I'm fully prepared to miss some days on some of these things. And, you know, I, I'm just trying to like store that information now and not judge it, like just say, okay, like that happened.

How did I feel as a result? Not like, did I get down on myself? But more so just how did I feel physically in my mood and spirit. Um, since I really just like data collection at this point, you could say.

Elle: Yeah, but that's useful though.

Shelby: Yeah.

And what about you? You're just trying to, um, not drink forever, right?

Elle: Maybe. I had a... yeah, I, I was drinking way too much and it wasn't serving me anymore for sure. So I think, uh, I wasn't, um, I wasn't, uh, you know a degenerate, alcoholic, you know, out like sleeping on the streets or whatever, but I definitely got to a point where, um, I wasn't, I would say, you know, Oh, tonight I'm just going to have one drink and then I would have more, you know, tonight, Oh, maybe I shouldn't drink three out of seven nights a week, but then I would drink every night anyway.

So it got to the point where I wasn't able to keep promises to myself, which is always a red flag. Um, and so I don't know how I will know if I'm ready to drink what I would call responsibly again. Um, I don't know if, uh, you know, after a year or two years, I'll I'll think, okay, well I can start enjoying a glass of wine every now and then again, and I won't fall back into that pattern that I really didn't like.

So the goal I think, is to just maybe be sober for the rest of my life. We'll see. Yeah, we'll see. I mean, as well, I'm not gonna put too much pressure on myself because the rest of my life is the rest of my life. So, you know, maybe I don't drink for a year and then I drink for a bit, and then I don't drink for two years, or I'm back

and I'm able to just have a couple of glasses of wine each week, but so far I'm liking the way I feel and I love the money saving. Wow. That just goes to show how much I was drinking that it's like all this extra cash.

Shelby: It's easy to spend the money on it. Also in the calories too. I mean, I know you commented, you're losing some weight, like we'd forget, um, how much of our calories are attributed to drinking.

So there are other, there are other benefits. But yeah, once you know, like, You know, I don't know. Let's say like you are sober for this year. Um, once, you know you can do that. I find that that's also really helpful too, because like you said, you know, you could get back into it, but then you could say, well, I can just also not do it for this next year if I want to, because you've already done that before.

So that's not so scary. Like the fear of the unknown.

Elle: That's true.

Yeah.

That's very true.

And the fear of, yeah. Can I, you know, do I have a big problem? Like, can I actually not drink for however long. And if, if, if I can, so far it's been almost three months and it's like, okay.

Shelby: Yeah.

Elle: It makes me feel bad to too about my, myself.

Shelby: And especially while you're around it too. I mean, that's a, that's a great feat. Um, I think most people think they would never be able to do that. Um, especially in this pandemic where everyone is probably drinking way more than they ever have. So I commend you for, for going forth and tackling that goal.

Elle: Thank you. Thank you. Well, let's, um, let's keep in touch about these goals. We will anyway for work. So we kind of pepper in how it's going. Yeah.

Um, with the no boozing and for you, the exercise, I'll try and exercise. Maybe you can, maybe let me know when after each week what you've done, the yoga and the workouts, and they'll be like, okay, I can do one.

I like your idea of do one. Once a week for however many weeks, months, then another one. That's a good idea.

Shelby: I mean, just see how you feel. And even if you don't want to commit to like once a week, you could just say, I'm just going to do it once and like see how it feels. And then, um, I try to like pay attention to the positive physical benefits so I can try to make like a positive association in my mind. And it took some time, but we got there.

So I know. I know you could do that too. Um, but yeah, don't, we all put too much pressure on ourselves, so just start with one.

Elle: That's true.

Shelby: And I'll definitely keep in touch about it.

Elle: Excellent. Okay. Well, thank you so much, Shelby. This was interesting as always, um, good luck with your goals and yeah, we'll keep in touch and maybe chat again.

Uh, within 2021. See how, how it's going if we're still we're still there.

Shelby: Yeah,

Elle: That might be interesting.

Shelby: Definitely. I know..

Elle: Like a six month...

You just gave

Shelby: me an ide,a like, Oh gosh, now I'm on the hook for this. So yeah, we will, we can do a progress update and um, yeah, I'm, it's always a pleasure to chat with you.

Elle: Great. Okay. Well, I will speak to you soon. Shelby.

Shelby: Sounds good. See you later Elle.

Elle: Bye.


English LingQ 2.0 Podcast #9: Wellness, Self Care and Going Sober in 2021 II English LingQ 2.0 Podcast #9: Wellness, Self Care and Going Sober in 2021 II

Shelby: Yeah, we, um, my, we had some friends staying with us here and they were drinking like a nice bottle of red wine and talking about how good it was. Shelby: Yeah, we, um, my, we had some friends staying with us here and they were drinking like a nice bottle of red wine and talking about how good it was. And I'm like hanging out, like I'm not gonna be able to taste it. And I'm like hanging out, like I'm not gonna be able to taste it. And then. I asked if I could take a sip and spit it out and... cause I just wanted to taste it.

Uh, at first my roommate said, no, cause it's too expensive, but you know, that's how you really taste wine, right? Like if you were actually going to a wine tasting.

Elle: Yeah. True. They didn't let you? So you didn't do it?

Shelby: Um, this also reminds me that something that, um, can help, like has helped me. 谢尔比:嗯,这也提醒我,嗯,可以帮助的东西,比如帮助了我。 And I don't know, it sounds like you're maybe kind of doing something like this is to have like another drink that you can have in place of the um, alcoholic beverage, like some, I really like sparkling wines, like Prosecco and stuff. 而且我不知道,听起来你可能正在做这样的事情,就是用另一种饮料来代替嗯,酒精饮料,比如一些,我真的很喜欢起泡酒,比如普罗塞克和东西。 So, um, I'm really into like sparkling water that I can, and I can add fun stuff into it, like squeeze an orange into it or add some mint to it. 所以,嗯,我真的很喜欢苏打水,我可以在里面添加一些有趣的东西,比如挤一个橙子或者加点薄荷。 Or I made this, um, this like lavender extract last year, um, which is really nice, like put in some sparkling water too. 或者我做这个,嗯,这个像去年的薰衣草提取物,嗯,真的很好,就像放了一些苏打水一样。

So something fun like that, that you can like actively enjoy while other people are drinking and I have found to be helpful. 所以像这样有趣的东西,你可以喜欢在其他人喝酒的时候积极享受,我发现它很有帮助。

Elle: And put it in a wine glass, just a fancy, fancy glass always helps I find that as well. Elle:把它放在酒杯里,一个花哨的花哨的玻璃杯总是能帮助我找到它。

Shelby: Totally. What is the, what's the fake beer you're drinking? 你喝的假啤酒是什么,是什么?

Elle: It's just, um, a Canadian supermarket brand, um, blonde beer. Elle:只是,嗯,一个加拿大超市品牌,嗯,金发啤酒。

I I've tried a bunch of different ones. 我试过很多不同的。 Like Budweiser has one. 就像百威啤酒一样。 Um, I can't remember the popular beer brands that have, Oh, Heineken has a fake, not a fake beer. 嗯,我不记得流行的啤酒品牌有,哦,喜力是假的,不是假的。 I guess it's dealcoholized beer. Ik denk dat het gedealcoholiseerd bier is. 我猜是脱醇啤酒。 It Is beer, but just no alcohol in it. 是啤酒,只是里面没有酒精。 Taken out afterwards? 之后取出来? I don't know how it works.

Shelby: Right.

Elle: But yeah, this is just a, um, Canadian like supermarket brand and it is good. Elle:但是,是的,这只是一个,嗯,加拿大人喜欢的超市品牌,而且很好。

I think it tastes great. 我觉得味道很好。 So...

Shelby: Good.

Elle: I drank that. And some, I also drink kombucha, which I've always loved and used to make until it exploded in my kitchen. 还有一些,我还喝康普茶,我一直很喜欢并习惯制作它,直到它在我的厨房里爆炸。 And I, I don't make it anymore. 而我,我再也做不到了。

Shelby: No! 谢尔比:不!

Elle: It's dangerous making kombucha. Elle:制作康普茶很危险。

Shelby: Did it really explode? 谢尔比:真的爆炸了吗?

Elle: Yeah, it's um, It ferments in a bottle and you need to put a lid on the bottle. Elle:是的,是的,它在瓶子里发酵,你需要在瓶子上盖上盖子。 So the tea, I don't know how, um, if you know much about it, there's like a SCOBY, which is like a bacteria, yeast, bacteria chunk. Dus de thee, ik weet niet hoe, eh, als je er veel van weet, is er zoiets als een SCOBY, die is als een bacterie, gist, bacteriebrok. 所以茶,我不知道,嗯,如果你对它了解很多,就像一个SCOBY,它就像一个细菌,酵母,细菌块。

It's kind of gross looking and you put a sugary tea in to a glass bottle with the SCOBY and the SCOBY eats the sugar and, um, ferments. 这看起来有点恶心,你把含糖的茶和 SCOBY 一起放进玻璃瓶里,SCOBY 吃糖,嗯,发酵。 Um, the drink is quite vinegary and, um, yeah, it's effervescent. 嗯,这种饮料很酸,嗯,是的,它是泡腾的。 So yeah. It's if you leave it in too long, it can explode and yeah, that happened to me. And there was, I put blueberries in it so that it looked like I'd murdered someone in my kitchen.

It was just red splatters all over the ceiling. Het waren gewoon rode spetters over het hele plafond.

Shelby: Were you, were you in there when that happened?

Elle: Yes. Yeah, because I actually, it didn't just explode out of nowhere. I was in the process of opening it to, to try it and see if it was done. And it, I I'd left it in a bit long. So it was, it's one of those like Ikea glass bottles with the, like a champagne bottle, you know, with the pop, the little plastic pop off.

And it just, yeah, I gave it a little touch and it just exploded everywhere.

Shelby: Oh my gosh.

Elle: It was kind of fun. I screamed and the neighbors must have thought. Someone had been shot.

Shelby: So not just another day at Elle's house? 谢尔比:那么,不仅仅是在埃勒家中度过一天吗?

Elle: No.

No, but, uh, it was delicious. What was left was delicious. So...

Shelby: Great. That's a silver lining.

Elle: Yeah, right?. Um, how were you finding exercise? Like how are you finding the motivation to exercise? Because that's something I'm finding really difficult right now? And I don't know if it's just generally or COVID/work from home/world is crazy. I don't know.

Shelby: Well, and let's not forget that, that you're a mom. You've got a little kid that you're also taking care of while working from home.

And, um, I I'm sure you get a lot of exercise just like chasing him around.

Elle: Yes, that is true. That's very true.

Shelby: I have the luxury of not having any dependents right now. So, um, there's also just that. Um, but it's, it's also like incremental. Um, so I started, um, getting back into exercising from home at some point last year.

Um, and I've been aiming to do three times a week for like a year and a half, but I was barely even doing twice a week at the beginning of last year. Um, so I started with one, like at the beginning of last year. And I said, I just need to like, stick to that since like going from zero to three is hard, you know?

And if you try to do that and you fail, then every week you're just failing. So I said, let me go from zero to one and like, get that down. And so that's what I would do. And then I finally felt pretty comfortable with that. So I said, okay, like, I kinda know how long this takes. I'm going to add in another one.

And I did that for several months, um, from around the halfway point of last year until, um, the beginning of this year. And then I said, okay, like, I need to just add one more day in. And that's all you're doing every time. It's just adding one more day in. Um, I like working out from home. I've always liked working out from home and I know a lot of people prefer the gym.

So that's a, I guess, an advantage I have that I just prefer to do it at home. Um, but it's also fast. Like I don't spend an hour and a half working out. I... if I'm like really focused, I can get through it all in probably about 35 minutes. Um, so it's not a huge time commitment either. And I find, um, now that I'm becoming aware of how I connect, like my feelings to,

uh, I like, I, I guess I've just become more aware of the fact that, um, I'm a really anxious person and the anxiety lives a lot, like in my head. 嗯,我喜欢,我想我已经变得更加了解这个事实了,嗯,我是一个非常焦虑的人,焦虑的生活很多,就像在我的头上一样。 And so I've just started to correlate a remedy, um, of, of anxiety with doing something physical. 因此,我才刚刚开始将焦虑症的补救措施与做一些身体上的事情联系起来。 So maybe it's not going to be working out every time. Maybe it is going on a walk or doing yoga.

So like lower intensity stuff. Um, But sometimes I'm like, so, I'm like feeling so like hyperactive about my anxiety that, um, I'm like, well, let me just like channel this energy into something good. And I start like doing some squats and some curls. And you find that like, you're kind of getting that energy out, you know?

Elle: Yeah. Hundred percent. Yeah.

I agree with that. Totally. Yeah.

Working like, like you said, like out the head working out of the head, through the body. I definitely, when I'm anxious, um, find that, yeah, I'll go... I even say to my husband, like had a lot of anxious energy, so I did X, um, it's usually like something around the house, um, because yeah, w why not instead of, um, and nothing wrong with, you know, sometimes I will just lay down and just kind of try and figure things out, but I find the most helpful thing is actually to get up and do something to

move move through it instead of letting it sit in you and just.Make you annoyed and upset.

Shelby: Right.

Elle: So, yeah. Yeah.

Shelby: And we're so...

Elle: Especially now there's lots to be anxious.

Shelby: Yeah.

And we've become so sedentary. I mean, like we used to just like walk more in our regular lives because like you walk from your front door to the car and into the office, et cetera.

So like you, I found, I really have to kind of manufacturer those experiences. Dus net als jij, ontdekte ik, moet ik die ervaringen echt een soort fabrikant zijn. Whereas before I was just moving more and as you said, like you move into it and the movement and activity, um, helps you just get out of your own head. 而之前我只是移动得更多,正如你所说,就像你进入它一样,移动和活动,嗯,帮助你摆脱自己的头脑。

Elle: Yeah. So you, um, so your plan then is to, because I saw that you have like a spreadsheet you're super organized. 所以你,嗯,所以你的计划是,因为我看到你有一个超级有条理的电子表格。 I love that. Your plan is to hit, like not break the chain, hit your weekly goal throughout 2021 and then maybe beyond, is that, is that the, the idea? 你的计划是像不打破链条一样,在整个 2021 年甚至更远的时间里达到你的每周目标,是这样,是这样的想法吗?

Shelby: Yeah, I think we'll see how, um, how it goes this year.

And, um, when it comes to, like, most of the habits are just related to like daily, um, health and nutrition stuff, and like the no... not drinking piece, I decided to just like be sober for a year, but who knows? Like maybe after this year, I'm going to say, I like how I feel and I don't want to reintegrate that into my life.

More, more than likely. I'm probably going to, like, significantly cut back on my drinking and, you know, um, yeah, cause again, like I'm going to be a lot healthier if I only drink once a month, you know, than like every week or every day. 我可能会,像,显着减少我的饮酒量,你知道,嗯,是的,再次因为,如果我每个月只喝一次,我会更健康,你知道,比喜欢每周或每天。 And that doesn't mean that I failed myself necessarily. 这并不意味着我一定会失败。 Um, like if there's an opportunity to drink and I want to, then I will. 嗯,如果有机会喝酒,我想喝,那我就喝。

But yeah, the goal with all of them is to not break the chain, but I already like missed two days of yoga this year. 但是,是的,他们所有人的目标是不打破链条,但我已经喜欢今年错过了两天的瑜伽。 I entered that in my sheet, but I just keep moving and like I'm fully prepared to miss some days on some of these things. 我在我的工作表中输入了它,但我只是继续前进,就像我完全准备好在其中一些事情上错过一些日子。 And, you know, I, I'm just trying to like store that information now and not judge it, like just say, okay, like that happened. 而且,你知道,我,我只是想现在存储这些信息而不是评判它,就像说,好吧,就像发生了那样。

How did I feel as a result? 结果我感觉如何? Not like, did I get down on myself? 不喜欢,我对自己失望了吗? But more so just how did I feel physically in my mood and spirit. 但更重要的是,我在心情和精神上的身体感觉如何。 Um, since I really just like data collection at this point, you could say. 嗯,因为我现在真的很喜欢数据收集,你可以说。

Elle: Yeah, but that's useful though. Elle:是的,但这很有用。

Shelby: Yeah.

And what about you? You're just trying to, um, not drink forever, right? 你只是想,嗯,不要永远喝酒,对吧?

Elle: Maybe. I had a... yeah, I, I was drinking way too much and it wasn't serving me anymore for sure. 我有一个......是的,我,我喝得太多了,它肯定不再为我服务了。 So I think, uh, I wasn't, um, I wasn't, uh, you know a degenerate, alcoholic, you know, out like sleeping on the streets or whatever, but I definitely got to a point where, um, I wasn't, I would say, you know, Oh, tonight I'm just going to have one drink and then I would have more, you know, tonight, Oh, maybe I shouldn't drink three out of seven nights a week, but then I would drink every night anyway. 所以我想,呃,我不是,呃,我不是,呃,你知道一个堕落的,酗酒的,你知道的,喜欢露宿街头之类的,但我肯定到了一个地步,嗯,我不是,我会说,你知道,哦,今晚我只喝一杯,然后我会喝更多,你知道,今晚,哦,也许我不应该喝七个晚上中的三个周,但无论如何我每天晚上都会喝酒。

So it got to the point where I wasn't able to keep promises to myself, which is always a red flag. 所以它到了我无法对自己信守承诺的地步,这总是一个危险信号。 Um, and so I don't know how I will know if I'm ready to drink what I would call responsibly again. 嗯,所以我不知道我怎么知道我是否准备好喝我会再次负责任地称之为的东西。 Um, I don't know if, uh, you know, after a year or two years, I'll I'll think, okay, well I can start enjoying a glass of wine every now and then again, and I won't fall back into that pattern that I really didn't like. 嗯,我不知道,呃,你知道,一年或两年后,我会想,好吧,我可以开始时不时地享受一杯酒,我不会的不要回到我真正不喜欢的那种模式。

So the goal I think, is to just maybe be sober for the rest of my life. 所以我想,我的目标就是在我的余生中保持清醒。 We'll see. Yeah, we'll see. I mean, as well, I'm not gonna put too much pressure on myself because the rest of my life is the rest of my life. 我的意思是,我也不会给自己太大压力,因为我的余生就是我的余生。 So, you know, maybe I don't drink for a year and then I drink for a bit, and then I don't drink for two years, or I'm back 所以,你知道,也许我一年不喝酒,然后我喝了一点,然后我两年不喝酒,或者我回来了

and I'm able to just have a couple of glasses of wine each week, but so far I'm liking the way I feel and I love the money saving. 我每周只能喝几杯酒,但到目前为止,我喜欢我的感觉,我喜欢省钱。 Wow. That just goes to show how much I was drinking that it's like all this extra cash. 这只是表明我喝了多少,这就像所有这些额外的现金。

Shelby: It's easy to spend the money on it. 谢尔比:花钱很容易。 Also in the calories too. 卡路里也是如此。 I mean, I know you commented, you're losing some weight, like we'd forget, um, how much of our calories are attributed to drinking. 我的意思是,我知道你评论说,你正在减轻一些体重,就像我们会忘记,嗯,我们有多少卡路里归因于饮酒。

So there are other, there are other benefits. 所以还有其他的,还有其他的好处。 But yeah, once you know, like, You know, I don't know. 但是,是的,一旦你知道,就像,你知道,我不知道。 Let's say like you are sober for this year. 假设你今年很清醒。 Um, once, you know you can do that. 嗯,有一次,你知道你可以做到。 I find that that's also really helpful too, because like you said, you know, you could get back into it, but then you could say, well, I can just also not do it for this next year if I want to, because you've already done that before. 我发现这也很有帮助,因为就像你说的,你知道,你可以重新开始,但是你可以说,好吧,如果我愿意,我也可以不为明年做,因为你'之前已经这样做了。

So that's not so scary. 所以这不是那么可怕。 Like the fear of the unknown. 就像对未知的恐惧一样。

Elle: That's true. 艾丽:那是真的。

Yeah.

That's very true.

And the fear of, yeah. Can I, you know, do I have a big problem? Like, can I actually not drink for however long. 就像,我真的不能喝多久。 And if, if, if I can, so far it's been almost three months and it's like, okay. 如果,如果,如果可以的话,到目前为止已经快三个月了,就像,好的。

Shelby: Yeah.

Elle: It makes me feel bad to too about my, myself. 埃勒:这让我对自己也感到难过。

Shelby: And especially while you're around it too. I mean, that's a, that's a great feat. Um, I think most people think they would never be able to do that. Um, especially in this pandemic where everyone is probably drinking way more than they ever have. So I commend you for, for going forth and tackling that goal.

Elle: Thank you. Thank you. Well, let's, um, let's keep in touch about these goals. We will anyway for work. So we kind of pepper in how it's going. 因此,我们对胡椒的使用情况有所了解。 Yeah.

Um, with the no boozing and for you, the exercise, I'll try and exercise. Eh, zonder zuipen en voor jou, de oefening, ik zal proberen te oefenen. Maybe you can, maybe let me know when after each week what you've done, the yoga and the workouts, and they'll be like, okay, I can do one.

I like your idea of do one. Once a week for however many weeks, months, then another one. That's a good idea.

Shelby: I mean, just see how you feel. And even if you don't want to commit to like once a week, you could just say, I'm just going to do it once and like see how it feels. And then, um, I try to like pay attention to the positive physical benefits so I can try to make like a positive association in my mind. And it took some time, but we got there.

So I know. I know you could do that too. Um, but yeah, don't, we all put too much pressure on ourselves, so just start with one.

Elle: That's true.

Shelby: And I'll definitely keep in touch about it.

Elle: Excellent. Okay. Well, thank you so much, Shelby. This was interesting as always, um, good luck with your goals and yeah, we'll keep in touch and maybe chat again.

Uh, within 2021. See how, how it's going if we're still we're still there.

Shelby: Yeah,

Elle: That might be interesting.

Shelby: Definitely. I know..

Elle: Like a six month...

You  just gave

Shelby: me an ide,a like, Oh gosh, now I'm on the hook for this. 谢尔比:我是个想法,就像,哦,天哪,现在我对此很着迷。 So yeah, we will, we can do a progress update and um, yeah, I'm, it's always a pleasure to chat with you.

Elle: Great. Okay. Well, I will speak to you soon. Shelby.

Shelby: Sounds good. See you later Elle.

Elle: Bye.