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English LingQ 2.0 Podcast, English LingQ 2.0 Podcast #12: One Year Anniversary of the COVID-19 Pandemic Pt. 1

English LingQ 2.0 Podcast #12: One Year Anniversary of the COVID-19 Pandemic Pt. 1

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Elle: Hello everyone. I am here with Mark Kaufmann for today's episode. Mark. How are you doing on?

Mark: Great. Thanks. Can't complain. Sun's shining.

Elle: Yeah. For once. Here in Vancouver, for those of you who don't know, that's where we're based.

It's uh, It's a rainforest we live in, so it's pretty wet all the time, but, so, yeah, it's nice to see the sun for sure. Uh, I thought it might be interesting to talk about the pandemic. Different angle though, because it's been a year now since we've been in this situation. So I thought it would be interesting to catch up, uh, and see first off how you're doing, what's changed in your life.

Um, So, yeah. How are you doing?

Mark: I'm doing well. I think as I look at myself in the video here, I realize that I probably don't get my hair cut quite as much, or as often as I should, should be doing. But, uh, yeah, it's amazing that it's, it's been a year. I don't know why I didn't, I, that surprises me in a way.

It doesn't really feel like it's been a year, but I guess it really, it has, cause it was I guess over a year ago that we stopped going into the office. And, um, yeah. Uh, yeah, I mean, I guess now we kind of hope that the end is in sight. There's some light at the end of the tunnel. Hopefully the vaccines arrived before too long for us.

I think, um, elsewhere in the world, obviously they seem to be having a significant impact.

Elle: Yep. Yep. Has Steve been vaccinated yet? Actually, I haven't asked Steve.

Mark: No, I think it's pretty slow going here. And, uh, they basically, um, I think 85 plus maybe are allowed to make appointments now for sort of vaccination maybe a week from now.

I think that's the sort of where they are. Uh, so realistically, Steve, uh, I think it's, I think he's hoping some mid-April ish.

Elle: Okay. Okay. So next month, hopefully. And then for people like us, who knows, I guess. Younger, not immuno-compromised, hopefully... soon.

Mark: Well, they're saying because here, because they're saying they're um going to split the doses.

Like not require two doses or at least allow four months time between doses that, uh, I think June or July by the end of July, everybody should have one dose, I think is what they're saying. We'll see.

Elle: Okay. Okay. And so you're going into the office sometimes.

Mark: Every once in a while, but really very infrequently, you know, once every couple of weeks for a few hours.

Elle: I miss it.

Mark: Yeah.

Elle: Yeah. Definitely. Yeah, I do miss it. I mean, for us, a lot of our team are, um, remote anyway. So for a lot of them, this is how they interact anyway, just through Zoom calls, Skype calls. But for those of us who are based in the office, yeah, I know everyone's missing, you know, the impromptu chats and meetings and just having someone to talk to in the workday, you know.

Mark: And, and, and somewhere to go, someone to go, like, if you ask me the biggest difference... like the actual work we do, I think because we always had so many remote people and obviously we're all remote now, uh, we have systems and means of communication that we use. And, um, most of our time is spent on those using those, uh, systems. And it's not that different, the actual work, but obviously in the office, we, we see each other, we interact socialy,

we have somewhere to go. You know right now, um, you kinda wake up, you start working and before you know it it's three in the afternoon and you haven't left the house. You haven't been outside. You haven't... uh, at which point you're like, I got to get outside, I gotta find something to do.

Elle: I find that too. I haven't seen the sun, especially because here we often just don't see the sun anyway

even if you're outside for weeks on end, I need some vitamin D sorry, looking very pasty, but spring is coming at least. So that's good.

Mark: Yeah.

That's the biggest thing. I think it's, it's probably learning that you have to figure out a different way of, of, uh, planning your day. Like yeah, go out. First of all, when it gets dark at four, you don't want to wait until, you know, four or five if we're going to do something go earlier when it's daylight.

Um, otherwise, yeah. Kind of miss it. Now it's... it's between well today we changed our clocks backward or forward or whatever, whichever way it is so that, uh, it's...

Elle: Spring forward.

Mark: Spring forward. Okay. Um, so now it's, it's obviously lighter later. Uh that's nice, but I guess those are, that's the biggest thing. I think obviously we'll see.

Well, how, what happens with the office? I think they're, they're predicting a lot of people will either not go back or we'll go back on a more, uh, eratic or not eratic, but a less like, um, consistent basis, maybe part-time or they're thinking you know, half the people would come one day, half the people another, those companies that have large space requirements, I think. And therefore they can reduce their requirement if people aren't in full time all the time.

So it will be interesting to see what, how much of this... I was looking at our article today talking about how education, this has really spurred education to, to go more online and, and, uh, um, you know, advance a bit with the times because I think education has very much been a laggard in terms of, uh, adapting to technology, at least formalized education and, and suggesting then you know that some of these things will,

will now become more available. Like, uh, ability to learn online. And, um, you know, some, some, even some classes online, they talked about how potential to, if, you know, if some students are interested in learning, their example was Portuguese, they could have one Portuguese teacher for the district and therefore they can offer it.

Maybe just that online versus, you know, previously were the only classes they offered were those within their, their building. So anyway, it's, it's interesting. It will be interesting to see in all areas, how much, how much, I guess, change there, there ends up being and how much sort of people will just go back to the way it was before.

Elle: I wonder. I feel like in a lot of cases, it's just going to be, there'll be a time where things are a little different and then we'll just kind of drift into the way things were. I don't know. We'll see.

But some things have, have to stay different, I think. Um, but yeah.

Yeah.

I kind of feel like a lot of stuff will go back to the way it was before.

Like it just isn't long enough for, to significantly change those patterns. But there, there, there will be some change. There's no question like um, you know, some of the things I think in health, like the tele, tele-health like, why was that not available before?

Mark: Yeah, for sure. That's been great. Yeah.

A lot of, a lot of appointments can just be over the phone.

There's no way to go anywhere. Right. So it just, yeah. It makes everything a lot easier. Yeah.

I feel like socially, we will stay different, uh, in terms of, you know, there's like a shared anxiety that we have now about touching anything, touching each other, touching our faces, you know? Um, so I, I think that's a positive.

I think maybe people will just be less gross, wash their hands more and if they're sick, stay home because no one else, you know, everyone else wants to stay healthy.


English LingQ 2.0 Podcast #12: One Year Anniversary of the COVID-19 Pandemic Pt. 1 English LingQ 2.0 Podcast #12: One Year Anniversary of the COVID-19 Pandemic Pt. 1

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Elle: Hello everyone. I am here with Mark Kaufmann for today's episode. Mark. How are you doing on? Come stai?

Mark: Great. Thanks. Can't complain. Sun's shining. Il sole splende.

Elle: Yeah. For once. 一度だけ。 Here in Vancouver, for those of you who don't know, that's where we're based. Qui a Vancouver, per quelli di voi che non lo sanno, è lì che siamo basati. ここバンクーバーでは、知らない人のために、それが私たちの拠点です。

It's uh, It's a rainforest we live in, so it's pretty wet all the time, but, so, yeah, it's nice to see the sun for sure. È uh, è una foresta pluviale in cui viviamo, quindi è sempre piuttosto umida, ma, quindi, sì, è bello vedere il sole di sicuro. ええと、私たちが住んでいる熱帯雨林なので、いつもかなり濡れていますが、そうです、確かに太陽を見るのはいいことです。 Uh, I thought it might be interesting to talk about the pandemic. Different angle though, because it's been a year now since we've been in this situation. So I thought it would be interesting to catch up, uh, and see first off how you're doing, what's changed in your life. だから私は、追いついて、ええと、あなたがどのようにやっているのか、あなたの人生で何が変わったのかを最初に見るのは面白いだろうと思いました。

Um, So, yeah. How are you doing?

Mark: I'm doing well. Mark: Sto bene. I think as I look at myself in the video here, I realize that I probably don't get my hair cut quite as much, or as often as I should, should be doing. Penso che mentre mi guardo nel video qui, mi rendo conto che probabilmente non mi taglio i capelli così tanto, o tutte le volte che dovrei, dovrei fare. ここのビデオで自分自身を見ていると、おそらく髪をあまりカットしないか、必要な頻度でカットする必要があることに気づきます。 But, uh, yeah, it's amazing that it's, it's been a year. しかし、ええと、ええ、それが1年になったことは驚くべきことです。 I don't know why I didn't, I, that surprises me in a way. なぜ私がそうしなかったのか分かりません、私はある意味で私を驚かせます。

It doesn't really feel like it's been a year, but I guess it really, it has, cause it was I guess over a year ago that we stopped going into the office. Non sembra davvero che sia passato un anno, ma immagino che lo sia davvero, perché credo sia stato più di un anno fa che abbiamo smesso di andare in ufficio. 一年経ったような気はしませんが、一年以上前にオフィスに行くのをやめたのではないかと思います。 And, um, yeah. Uh, yeah, I mean, I guess now we kind of hope that the end is in sight. ええと、ええ、つまり、私たちは今、終わりが見えていることを願っています。 There's some light at the end of the tunnel. トンネルの終わりにいくらかの光があります。 Hopefully the vaccines arrived before too long for us. うまくいけば、ワクチンは私たちにとってあまりにも早く到着しました。 希望这些疫苗对我们来说很快就到了。

I think, um, elsewhere in the world, obviously they seem to be having a significant impact. ええと、世界の他の場所では、明らかにそれらが大きな影響を及ぼしているように思われます。

Elle: Yep. Yep. Has Steve been vaccinated yet? Steve è già stato vaccinato? スティーブはもうワクチン接種を受けていますか? Actually, I haven't asked Steve. In realtà, non l'ho chiesto a Steve.

Mark: No, I think it's pretty slow going here. Mark: No, penso che sia piuttosto lento andare qui. And, uh, they basically, um, I think 85 plus maybe are allowed to make appointments now for sort of vaccination maybe a week from now. E, uh, fondamentalmente, um, penso che più di 85 forse possano prendere appuntamenti adesso per una specie di vaccinazione, forse tra una settimana. そして、ええと、彼らは基本的に、ええと、85プラスはおそらく今から1週間後にある種の予防接種の予約をすることが許されていると思います。

I think that's the sort of where they are. そういうところだと思います。 Uh, so realistically, Steve, uh, I think it's, I think he's hoping some mid-April ish. ええと、とても現実的に、スティーブ、ええと、私はそうだと思います、私は彼が4月中旬のイッシュを望んでいると思います。

Elle: Okay. Okay. So next month, hopefully. And then for people like us, who knows, I guess. Younger, not immuno-compromised, hopefully... soon. Jonger, niet immuno-gecompromitteerd, hopelijk ... binnenkort.

Mark: Well, they're saying because here, because they're saying they're um going to split the doses. マーク:ええと、彼らはここで言っているのです、なぜなら彼らは用量を分割するつもりだと言っているからです。

Like not require two doses or at least allow four months time between doses that, uh, I think June or July by the end of July, everybody should have one dose, I think is what they're saying. 2回の服用を必要としない、または服用の間に少なくとも4か月の時間を与えるように、ええと、7月末までに6月または7月に、誰もが1回の服用をする必要があると思います。 We'll see.

Elle: Okay. Okay. And so you're going into the office sometimes.

Mark: Every once in a while, but really very infrequently, you know, once every couple of weeks for a few hours. Mark: Ogni tanto, ma davvero molto raramente, sai, una volta ogni due settimane per alcune ore. マーク:たまにありますが、実際には非常にまれですが、数週間に1回、数時間です。

Elle: I miss it.

Mark: Yeah.

Elle: Yeah. Definitely. Yeah, I do miss it. I mean, for us, a lot of our team are, um, remote anyway. So for a lot of them, this is how they interact anyway, just through Zoom calls, Skype calls. したがって、多くの人にとって、これは、Zoom通話、Skype通話を介して、とにかく対話する方法です。 But for those of us who are based in the office, yeah, I know everyone's missing, you know, the impromptu chats and meetings and just having someone to talk to in the workday, you know. しかし、オフィスに拠点を置く私たちにとっては、ええ、誰もが行方不明になっていることを知っています。

Mark: And, and, and somewhere to go, someone to go, like, if you ask me the biggest difference... like the actual work we do, I think because we always had so many remote people and obviously we're all remote now, uh, we have systems and means of communication that we use. Mark: E, e, e un posto dove andare, qualcuno dove andare, tipo, se mi chiedi la differenza più grande ... come il lavoro che facciamo, penso perché abbiamo sempre avuto così tante persone remote e ovviamente siamo tutti remoto ora, uh, abbiamo sistemi e mezzi di comunicazione che usiamo. マーク:そして、そしてどこかに行く人、たとえば、私に最大の違いを尋ねると...私たちが実際に行っている仕事のように、私たちはいつも非常に多くの遠隔地の人々を抱えていたので、明らかに私たちは皆遠隔地になりました、ええと、私たちが使用するシステムと通信手段があります。 And, um, most of our time is spent on those using those, uh, systems. そして、ええと、私たちの時間のほとんどは、それらのシステムを使用している人々に費やされています。 And it's not that different, the actual work, but obviously in the office, we, we see each other, we interact socialy, 実際の仕事はそれほど違いはありませんが、明らかにオフィスでは、私たちはお互いを見て、社交的に交流し、

we have somewhere to go. dobbiamo andare da qualche parte. どこかに行くところがあります。 You know right now, um, you kinda wake up, you start working and before you know it it's three in the afternoon and you haven't left the house. Sai in questo momento, ehm, ti svegli, inizi a lavorare e prima che te ne accorga sono le tre del pomeriggio e non sei uscito di casa. あなたは今知っています、ええと、あなたはちょっと目を覚まし、働き始めます、そしてあなたがそれを知る前にそれは午後の3時であり、あなたは家を出ていません。 You haven't been outside. あなたは外に出ていません。 You haven't... uh, at which point you're like, I got to get outside, I gotta find something to do. Non hai ... uh, a quel punto sei tipo, devo uscire, devo trovare qualcosa da fare. あなたはしていません...ええと、あなたが好きな時点で、私は外に出なければなりません、私は何かを見つけなければなりません。

Elle: I find that too. I haven't seen the sun, especially because here we often just don't see the sun anyway

even if you're outside for weeks on end, I need some vitamin D sorry, looking very pasty, but spring is coming at least. anche se stai fuori per settimane, ho bisogno di un po 'di vitamina D, mi dispiace, sembra molto pastoso, ma almeno la primavera sta arrivando. zelfs als je wekenlang buiten bent, heb ik wat vitamine D nodig, sorry, ik zie er erg plakkerig uit, maar de lente komt in ieder geval. So that's good.

Mark: Yeah.

That's the biggest thing. I think it's, it's probably learning that you have to figure out a different way of, of, uh, planning your day. 私はそれが、おそらく、あなたがあなたの一日を計画する別の方法を理解しなければならないことを学んでいると思います。 Like yeah, go out. First of all, when it gets dark at four, you don't want to wait until, you know, four or five if we're going to do something go earlier when it's daylight. まず、4時に暗くなると、日中の早い時間に何かをする場合は4、5になるまで待ちたくありません。

Um, otherwise, yeah. Altrimenti, sì. Kind of miss it. Now it's... it's between well today we changed our clocks backward or forward or whatever, whichever way it is so that, uh, it's... Ora è ... è tra oggi, bene, abbiamo cambiato i nostri orologi avanti o indietro o qualsiasi altra cosa, in qualunque modo sia così che, uh, è ... さて、それは...今日は時計を前後に変更したか、どちらの方法でも、ええと、それは... 现在是...介于今天之间,我们将时钟向后或向前或以任何方式更改,无论是哪种方式,呃...

Elle: Spring forward. Elle: Primavera in avanti. エル:春先。

Mark: Spring forward. Okay. Um, so now it's, it's obviously lighter later. Ehm, quindi ora è, ovviamente è più leggero dopo. ええと、今はそうです、後で明らかに軽くなります。 Uh that's nice, but I guess those are, that's the biggest thing. ええと、それはいいことですが、それが最大のことだと思います。 I think obviously we'll see. 明らかにわかると思います。

Well, how, what happens with the office? さて、どのように、オフィスはどうなりますか? I think they're, they're predicting a lot of people will either not go back or we'll go back on a more, uh, eratic or not eratic, but a less like, um, consistent basis, maybe part-time or they're thinking you know, half the people would come one day, half the people another, those companies that have large space requirements, I think. Penso che stiano prevedendo che molte persone non torneranno indietro o torneremo su una base più, uh, eratica o non eratica, ma una base meno simile, um, coerente, forse part-time o pensano, sai, metà delle persone verrebbe un giorno, metà delle persone un altro, quelle aziende che hanno grandi requisiti di spazio, penso. 私は彼らがそうだと思います、彼らは多くの人々が戻ってこないか、私たちがもっと、ええと、不規則または不規則ではないが、あまり似ていない、ええと、一貫したベースで、おそらくパートタイムで戻るだろうと予測していますまたは、彼らはあなたが知っていると思っています、半分の人がいつか来るでしょう、半分の人が別の人、大きなスペース要件を持っているそれらの会社、私は思います。 And therefore they can reduce their requirement if people aren't in full time all the time. E quindi possono ridurre il loro fabbisogno se le persone non sono sempre a tempo pieno. したがって、人々が常にフルタイムでいない場合、彼らは彼らの要件を減らすことができます。

So it will be interesting to see what, how much of this... I was looking at our article today talking about how education, this has really spurred education to, to go more online and, and, uh, um, you know, advance a bit with the times because I think education has very much been a laggard in terms of, uh, adapting to technology, at least formalized education and, and suggesting then you know that some of these things will, ですから、これがどれだけあるかを見るのは興味深いでしょう...私は今日、教育について話している私たちの記事を見ていました。教育は、テクノロジーへの適応、少なくとも正式な教育、そしてこれらのいくつかがそうなることを知っていることを示唆しているという点で、非常に遅れていると思うので、時代とともに少し進んでください。

will now become more available. Like, uh, ability to learn online. And, um, you know, some, some, even some classes online, they talked about how potential to, if, you know, if some students are interested in learning, their example was Portuguese, they could have one Portuguese teacher for the district and therefore they can offer it.

Maybe just that online versus, you know, previously were the only classes they offered were those within their, their building. So anyway, it's, it's interesting. It will be interesting to see in all areas, how much, how much, I guess, change there, there ends up being and how much sort of people will just go back to the way it was before. Sarà interessante vedere in tutte le aree quanto, quanto, immagino, cambierà lì, finirà per esserci e quante persone torneranno com'erano prima.

Elle: I wonder. I feel like in a lot of cases, it's just going to be, there'll be a time where things are a little different and then we'll just kind of drift into the way things were. I don't know. We'll see.

But some things have, have to stay different, I think. Ma alcune cose devono restare diverse, credo. Um, but yeah.

Yeah.

I kind of feel like a lot of stuff will go back to the way it was before. Sento che molte cose torneranno com'erano prima.

Like it just isn't long enough for, to significantly change those patterns. Come se non fosse abbastanza a lungo per cambiare in modo significativo quei modelli. But there, there, there will be some change. There's no question like um, you know, some of the things I think in health, like the tele, tele-health like, why was that not available before?

Mark: Yeah, for sure. That's been great. Yeah.

A lot of, a lot of appointments can just be over the phone. Molti, molti appuntamenti possono essere solo per telefono.

There's no way to go anywhere. Right. So it just, yeah. It makes everything a lot easier. Yeah.

I feel like socially, we will stay different, uh, in terms of, you know, there's like a shared anxiety that we have now about touching anything, touching each other, touching our faces, you know? Um, so I, I think that's a positive. Um, quindi io, penso che sia positivo.

I think maybe people will just be less gross, wash their hands more and if they're sick, stay home because no one else, you know, everyone else wants to stay healthy.