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English LingQ Podcast 1.0, Eighteen: Hiking The Grouse Grind

Eighteen: Hiking The Grouse Grind

Mark: Hello again.

Welcome back to the English Lingq podcast. Mark Kaufmann here. Today we have a different kind of a show. Jill has joined us. Jill is one of the tutors for The Linguist amongst other things. You can introduce yourself.

Jill: Hi, my name is Jill. As Mark said, I am a Linguist tutor and I do customer service as well for the Linguist and most likely if you ever send an email I will answer you and I think today Mark and I will probably discuss the outdoors, outdoor activities. We are both quite interested in being outside.

Mark: I thought actually you were telling me earlier you were hiking yesterday, or not really hiking, doing the Grouse grind which I would assume most of our listeners would not be familiar with. We, for those of you who don't know, we're in Vancouver and in Vancouver the Grouse grind is quite a popular activity, at least for those who are physically active. Maybe, Jill you can explain a bit about what the Grouse grind is.

Jill: The Grouse grind is a hike from basically the base of one of our local mountains, a ski mountain, a ski hill and so you can park at the base and normally you would take a tram up the mountain if you are to go skiing but there is also a trail so you can walk from the base to the top of the mountain, you hike. It's quite steep and I can't remember quite how long it is but it's actually not that great of a distance but it's very steep so it's quite difficult. It's not a mellow stroll in the park kind of, you know, I'm going to go out for some fun and an easy walk kind of thing. But, it's hard work and there are lots of people who are trying to do it in a certain time or better than their time, there are races on it and because it is quite a challenging hike, I think there is quite a lot of competition around it so people are always kind of trying to beat each other. Mark: Yeah, for sure. You hear people around town talking about how I went and did the grind yesterday and what was you time and this sort of thing. I don't know how long it's sort of been a popular thing to do. I assume that the trail has been there forever, not forever, but for a long time, but as far as people talking about doing the grind and talking about their times and it becoming popular for a lot of people actually, maybe in the last ten years it's become that. I know you were telling me you got a pretty good time yesterday. Jill was telling me how she did it in 45 minutes yesterday which is an excellent time and I'm not sure if you told Steve. Jill: No I didn't tell Steve yet and actually Steve is in great shape for those of you who don't know he exercises very regularly and so he can do something like the grind generally quicker than most people who are twenty or thirty years younger than him. He can do it in, I guess the first time out this year, the first time he did it this year he also did it in 45 minutes. But I think he has done it quicker than that in the past, in 42 minutes or something I think is his best time. Yesterday at 45 was definitely my best time. I don't know that I can do it a lot quicker, it was pretty hard. Mark: Yeah, he says he's been up it 42 and I'm sure he has, but I mean the difference in those times is huge actually. It is very steep. I know that when I do it my feet start to fall asleep because they are bent, there is such an incline that they are constantly bent and I guess the blood flow, the circulation starts to get cut off. I don't like doing it so I don't go very often. Jill: I don't think many people really like doing the grind. It's more, it has the name the Grouse grind because it's a grind. It's difficult. I think most people who do it, who seriously do it are fairly avid outdoors people or people who like to exercise and so they do it as more of a workout and the people on it who are not that way I think are usually, don't really know what they are getting themselves into. You see a lot of people, a lot of tourists busses go to Grouse Mountain. It's a very popular tourist place in Vancouver and so a lot of those tourists decide I'm going to go on this little hike so they are not dressed properly, they are not in very good shape or they just have no experience with hiking and this is quite a grueling hike. So, there are people every year who have to be rescued off of the trail because they just can't make it or they have an asthma attack or they get lost. They somehow get off the trail and get lost, so it's not just something that should be done and taken lightly, it is difficult. Mark: Yeah, for sure. Because it's difficult is again, why I haven't probably done it in a while. Although I should mention that when I did do it, I can't remember what my time was but, I beat my dad. Yeah, something like that, 36 or something like that. Anyway I will do it soon because everybody else here seems to be on the Grouse grind doing fast times.

Jill: The record for doing it is, a guy from New Zealand did it in, I think it was 27 minutes, 26 or 27 minutes and that is the quickest anybody has ever done it. That is somebody who can basically run up the whole hill and that's very unlikely for most people. Mark: 27 minutes. That is fast you know. I know the few times I tried it I started out trying to run almost and I mean, after ten minutes of that you are just dead. You kind of have to start off a little more slowly and then hope you pick up some time at the end. It's more being able to hold a constant pace up rather than running but 27 minutes. That is fast. New Zealand eh? Never, I don't trust them. Jill: They have lots of mountains there too so I guess it makes sense. But I ever do it faster than 45 minutes I'd be very happy. I can't imagine. I think the average time, they average it out, is actually it's an hour and a half or an hour and fifteen minutes when they aver it out over all the people who do it. So you know, the average person I think, even people who are in decent shape, who exercise on a fairly regular basis but maybe don't do a lot of hiking or running or that kind of thing. It still takes them usually about an hour and ten or an hour and twenty minutes. Anybody really under an hour is a good time for the grind.

Mark: Yeah, I think for sure that's the case. I know, getting back to what you were saying earlier about people not being prepared, I mean you see people on there that they are a quarter of the way up and they are there in their loafers and jeans and they have no idea what they were doing and saw some people heading up the trail and thought oh, that looks like fun, yeah, let's walk up the mountain. And it's not a walk, it's not a walk. It's definitely strenuous physical activity unlike what I was doing last night. You were on the grind working hard and I was playing mixed slow pitch softball which is a different kettle of fish. What do you mean old man sport?

Jill: No, I just say that because I know my step dad when I was younger, he played on a slow pitch team so I kind of associate it with a dad thing to do but of course that was twenty years ago when I was only ten years old. So he seemed old to me at the time.

Mark: Well I am a dad, however I never thought I'd be on a slow pitch team because really that's not my speed of game in general, but I did play baseball for a few years as a kid and actually how we ended up having a team, a bunch of the parents at the school we were good friends with, at the kids school, a few guys decided we should have a slow pitch baseball team. It's mixed so that the wives play as well and you know it's, I mean it's slow but actually because it's slow pitch everybody hits. There are not a lot of strike outs and walks so there's a fair amount of activity in the field and it mostly is just a social event. Jill: Yeah, in my experience I know my brother has several friends who play slow pitch and have played for a number of years in their twenties so it's not just an old person sport. They do it, I think, definitely more for the social aspect. A bunch of guys, their team is all guys and a bunch of them are friends and have been friends for twenty years and they get together and hang out and girlfriends or wives come and watch and I think there is always some beer and other things or sometimes going out afterwards to a pub is a very popular thing to do too. I think that it is mostly a social activity and like you say, because it's slow pitch you don't have to be a superstar to be able to play and have fun. The ball is not coming at your very fast so you can usually hit it which makes the game more fun.

Mark: By the way when we, when I call it slow pitch, slow pitch is soft ball but it's like a lobbing pitch, it's like a moon ball we call it as opposed to real baseball where the ball comes in over hand or fast pitch soft ball where it's under hand but it's very hard. Slow pitch is a lobbing pitch that's easy to connect with. Sometimes it's easy to pop up the ball or hit grounders, whatever, but at any rate, there's a lot of action for the defensive team as well so as you said, everybody gets into the game and as you also said a big part of it is the social aspect. There are not many games you can play just about while drinking beer, not to down play the athletic aspect of what we're doing but if there was no beer allowed I'm not so sure we'd be playing, which I wouldn't say about any of the other games I play. Part of it is in the spring and summer and the weather is nice and friends get together and the kids are out playing at the playground next door and it's just a fun thing to do. But certainly not as strenuous as the Grouse grind.

I think with that we'll probably wrap things up. I hope you all enjoyed hearing about what we did last night and we'll try to talk about different things, different aspects of our lives and a variety of topics going forward with the English Lingq podcast and we'll sort of intersperse these conversations with our regular podcasts and if you have any comments of course, please let us know through our website. Most importantly to get more from this podcast an dread the transcript and save words and phrases that you want to learn and use our learning tools to really learn this material please visit our website at englishlingq.com. Sign up and try out our learning tools.


Eighteen: Hiking The Grouse Grind Dix-huit: Randonnée The Grouse Grind Вісімнадцять: Піші прогулянки The Grouse Grind

Mark: Hello again.

Welcome back to the English Lingq podcast. Mark Kaufmann here. Today we have a different kind of a show. Aujourd'hui, nous avons un autre genre de spectacle. Jill has joined us. Jill nous a rejoint. Jill is one of the tutors for The Linguist amongst other things. Jill est l'une des tutrices de The Linguist, entre autres. Jill è uno dei tutor di The Linguist tra le altre cose. Jill 是 The Linguist 的导师之一。 You can introduce yourself.

Jill: Hi, my name is Jill. As Mark said, I am a Linguist tutor and I do customer service as well for the Linguist and most likely if you ever send an email I will answer you and I think today Mark and I will probably discuss the outdoors, outdoor activities. Comme Mark l'a dit, je suis un tuteur de linguiste et je fais également du service à la clientèle pour le linguiste et très probablement si jamais vous envoyez un e-mail, je vous répondrai et je pense qu'aujourd'hui Mark et moi discuterons probablement du plein air, des activités de plein air. Come ha detto Mark, sono un tutor linguista e faccio anche il servizio clienti per il linguista e molto probabilmente se invii un'email ti risponderò e penso che oggi Mark e discuterò probabilmente delle attività all'aperto, all'aperto. We are both quite interested in being outside. Siamo entrambi piuttosto interessati ad essere fuori.

Mark: I thought actually you were telling me earlier you were hiking yesterday, or not really hiking, doing the Grouse grind which I would assume most of our listeners would not be familiar with. Mark : Je pensais en fait que vous me disiez plus tôt que vous faisiez de la randonnée hier, ou que vous ne faisiez pas vraiment de randonnée, que vous faisiez le Grouse Grind que je suppose que la plupart de nos auditeurs ne connaîtraient pas. Mark: Pensavo che in realtà mi avessi detto prima che stavi facendo un'escursione ieri, o che non stavi davvero facendo un'escursione a Grouse, che suppongo che la maggior parte dei nostri ascoltatori non avrebbe familiarità. マーク:実際には、昨日ハイキングをしている、または実際にはハイキングをしていないと言っていたのだと思いました。 Mark: Ik dacht eigenlijk dat je me eerder vertelde dat je gisteren aan het wandelen was, of niet echt aan het wandelen was, terwijl je de Grouse grind deed waarvan ik aannam dat de meeste van onze luisteraars niet bekend zouden zijn. Марк: Насправді я думав, що ти говорив мені раніше, що вчора ходив у похід або не ходив у похід, виконуючи тетерева, який, я припускаю, більшість наших слухачів не буде знайомий. We, for those of you who don't know, we're in Vancouver and in Vancouver the Grouse grind is quite a popular activity, at least for those who are physically active. Noi, per quelli di voi che non lo sanno, siamo a Vancouver e a Vancouver il grind Grouse è un'attività piuttosto popolare, almeno per coloro che sono fisicamente attivi. 私たちは、知らない人のために、バンクーバーにいます。バンクーバーでは、少なくとも身体的に活動している人にとって、グラウスグラインドは非常に人気のある活動です。 Maybe, Jill you can explain a bit about what the Grouse grind is.

Jill: The Grouse grind is a hike from basically the base of one of our local mountains, a ski mountain, a ski hill and so you can park at the base and normally you would take a tram up the mountain if you are to go skiing but there is also a trail so you can walk from the base to the top of the mountain, you hike. Jill: Le Grouse grind est une randonnée à partir de la base de l'une de nos montagnes locales, une montagne de ski, une pente de ski et vous pouvez donc vous garer à la base et normalement vous prendriez un tram pour monter la montagne si vous allez skier mais il y a aussi un sentier pour que vous puissiez marcher de la base au sommet de la montagne, vous faites de la randonnée. Jill: Il Grouse grind è un'escursione dalla base di una delle nostre montagne locali, una montagna di sci, una collina di sci e quindi puoi parcheggiare alla base e normalmente prendi un tram su per la montagna se vuoi andare a sciare ma c'è anche un sentiero in modo da poter camminare dalla base alla cima della montagna, si fa un'escursione. ジル:グラウスグラインドは、基本的に地元の山の1つ、スキー山、スキーヒルのふもとからのハイキングです。そのため、ふもとに駐車できます。通常、スキーに行く場合は、トラムで山を登ります。でも、山の麓から山頂まで歩いてハイキングできるトレイルもあります。 It's quite steep and I can't remember quite how long it is but it's actually not that great of a distance but it's very steep so it's quite difficult. C'est assez raide et je ne me souviens pas exactement de sa longueur, mais ce n'est en fait pas une si grande distance, mais c'est très raide, donc c'est assez difficile. È abbastanza ripido e non riesco a ricordare quanto sia lungo, ma in realtà non è così lontano ma è molto ripido, quindi è piuttosto difficile. かなり急で、どれくらいの長さなのか思い出せませんが、実際はそれほど遠くないですが、とても急なのでとても難しいです。 It's not a mellow stroll in the park kind of, you know, I'm going to go out for some fun and an easy walk kind of thing. Ce n'est pas une promenade douce dans le parc, vous savez, je vais sortir pour m'amuser et faire une promenade facile. 公園を散歩するのはまろやかなことではありません、あなたが知っているように、私はいくつかの楽しみと簡単な散歩のようなもののために出かけるつもりです。 Це не легка прогулянка в парку, ви знаєте, я збираюся вийти на вулицю, щоб розважитися та погуляти. 这不是在公园里悠闲地漫步,你知道,我要出去玩一些轻松的散步之类的事情。 But, it's hard work and there are lots of people who are trying to do it in a certain time or better than their time, there are races on it and because it is quite a challenging hike, I think there is quite a lot of competition around it so people are always kind of trying to beat each other. Mais, c'est un travail difficile et il y a beaucoup de gens qui essaient de le faire dans un certain temps ou mieux que leur temps, il y a des courses dessus et parce que c'est une randonnée assez difficile, je pense qu'il y a beaucoup de concurrence autour de lui pour que les gens essaient toujours de se battre. Ma è un duro lavoro e ci sono molte persone che stanno provando a farlo in un determinato momento o meglio del loro tempo, ci sono gare su di esso e poiché è un'escursione piuttosto impegnativa, penso che ci sia molta concorrenza attorno ad esso, quindi le persone cercano sempre di battere l'un l'altro. でも、大変な作業で、一定の時間以上にやろうとしている人も多く、レースもあり、かなり挑戦的なハイキングなので、かなりの競争があると思います。その周りにいるので、人々はいつもお互いを打ち負かそうとしています。 Mark: Yeah, for sure. You hear people around town talking about how I went and did the grind yesterday and what was you time and this sort of thing. Vous entendez des gens autour de la ville parler de la façon dont j'ai fait la mouture hier et de votre temps et de ce genre de choses. 昨日私がどのように行ってグラインドをしたか、そしてあなたは何時だったのか、そしてこの種のことについて町中の人々が話しているのを聞きます。 Ви чуєте, як люди по місту говорять про те, як я вчора ходив і робив гру, скільки був у вас час і тому подібне. I don't know how long it's sort of been a popular thing to do. Je ne sais pas depuis combien de temps c'est une chose populaire à faire. それがどれくらい人気のあることなのかはわかりません。 I assume that the trail has been there forever, not forever, but for a long time, but as far as people talking about doing the grind and talking about their times and it becoming popular for a lot of people actually, maybe in the last ten years it's become that. Je suppose que la piste est là depuis toujours, pas depuis toujours, mais depuis longtemps, mais en ce qui concerne les gens qui parlent de faire le travail et de parler de leur époque et qui deviennent populaires pour beaucoup de gens en fait, peut-être au cours des dix dernières ans c'est devenu ça. Presumo che il percorso sia stato lì per sempre, non per sempre, ma per molto tempo, ma per quanto riguarda le persone che parlano di fare il duro lavoro e di parlare dei loro tempi e che sta diventando popolare per molte persone in realtà, forse negli ultimi dieci anni è diventato quello. トレイルは永遠に、永遠ではなく、長い間そこにあったと思いますが、グラインドをしたり、自分の時代について話したりすることについて話している限り、実際には多くの人々に人気があります。おそらく過去10年間です。年になりました。 I know you were telling me you got a pretty good time yesterday. Jill was telling me how she did it in 45 minutes yesterday which is an excellent time and I'm not sure if you told Steve. Jill me racontait comment elle l'avait fait en 45 minutes hier, ce qui est un excellent temps et je ne sais pas si vous l'avez dit à Steve. Jill: No I didn't tell Steve yet and actually Steve is in great shape for those of you who don't know he exercises very regularly and so he can do something like the grind generally quicker than most people who are twenty or thirty years younger than him. Jill : Non, je ne l'ai pas encore dit à Steve et en fait Steve est en pleine forme pour ceux d'entre vous qui ne savent pas qu'il fait de l'exercice très régulièrement et qu'il peut donc faire quelque chose comme la mouture généralement plus rapide que la plupart des gens qui ont vingt ou trente ans plus jeune que lui. He can do it in, I guess the first time out this year, the first time he did it this year he also did it in 45 minutes. Il peut le faire, je suppose que la première fois cette année, la première fois qu'il l'a fait cette année, il l'a aussi fait en 45 minutes. But I think he has done it quicker than that in the past, in 42 minutes or something I think is his best time. Yesterday at 45 was definitely my best time. Hier à 45 ans, c'était définitivement mon meilleur temps. I don't know that I can do it a lot quicker, it was pretty hard. Je ne sais pas si je peux le faire beaucoup plus vite, c'était assez difficile. Non so che posso farlo molto più velocemente, è stato piuttosto difficile. 私はそれをもっと速くできるかどうかわかりません、それはかなり大変でした。 Mark: Yeah, he says he's been up it 42 and I'm sure he has, but I mean the difference in those times is huge actually. Mark : Ouais, il dit qu'il en a fait 42 et je suis sûr qu'il l'a fait, mais je veux dire que la différence à ce moment-là est énorme en fait. Марк: Так, він каже, що пройшов 42 роки, і я впевнений, що так, але я маю на увазі, що різниця в ті часи насправді величезна. It is very steep. とても急です。 I know that when I do it my feet start to fall asleep because they are bent, there is such an incline that they are constantly bent and I guess the blood flow, the circulation starts to get cut off. Je sais que quand je le fais, mes pieds commencent à s'endormir parce qu'ils sont pliés, il y a une telle inclinaison qu'ils sont constamment pliés et je suppose que le flux sanguin, la circulation commence à se couper. So che quando lo faccio i miei piedi iniziano ad addormentarsi perché sono piegati, c'è una tale inclinazione che sono costantemente piegati e immagino che il flusso sanguigno, la circolazione inizi a essere interrotta. Я знаю, що коли я це роблю, ноги починають засинати, тому що вони зігнуті, є такий нахил, що вони постійно згинаються, і я думаю, що кровотік, кровообіг починає обриватися. 我知道当我这样做时,我的脚开始睡着了,因为它们是弯曲的,有这样一个倾斜,它们不断弯曲,我猜血液流动,循环开始被切断。 I don't like doing it so I don't go very often. Je n'aime pas le faire donc je n'y vais pas très souvent. Jill: I don't think many people really like doing the grind. Jill: Non credo che a molte persone piaccia davvero fare la fatica. It's more, it has the name the Grouse grind because it's a grind. C'est plus, ça s'appelle le Grouse grind parce que c'est un grind. It's difficult. I think most people who do it, who seriously do it are fairly avid outdoors people or people who like to exercise and so they do it as more of a workout and the people on it who are not that way I think are usually, don't really know what they are getting themselves into. Je pense que la plupart des gens qui le font, qui le font sérieusement sont des gens assez avides de plein air ou des gens qui aiment faire de l'exercice et donc ils le font plutôt comme un entraînement et les gens qui ne sont pas comme ça, je pense, le sont généralement, ne ne savent pas vraiment dans quoi ils s'embarquent. Penso che la maggior parte delle persone che lo fanno, che lo fanno sul serio sono abbastanza avide le persone all'aperto o le persone a cui piace fare esercizio fisico e quindi lo fanno come più di un allenamento e le persone su di esso che non sono in quel modo penso che di solito, no ' So davvero in cosa si stanno cacciando. You see a lot of people, a lot of tourists busses go to Grouse Mountain. Vous voyez beaucoup de monde, beaucoup de bus de touristes vont à Grouse Mountain. It's a very popular tourist place in Vancouver and so a lot of those tourists decide I'm going to go on this little hike so they are not dressed properly, they are not in very good shape or they just have no experience with hiking and this is quite a grueling hike. So, there are people every year who have to be rescued off of the trail because they just can't make it or they have an asthma attack or they get lost. Quindi, ci sono persone ogni anno che devono essere salvate fuori dalla pista perché non ce la fanno o hanno un attacco d'asma o si perdono. They somehow get off the trail and get lost, so it's not just something that should be done and taken lightly, it is difficult. Ils sortent en quelque sorte de la piste et se perdent, donc ce n'est pas seulement quelque chose qui doit être fait et pris à la légère, c'est difficile. In qualche modo escono dalla pista e si perdono, quindi non è solo qualcosa che dovrebbe essere fatto e preso alla leggera, è difficile. 彼らはどういうわけか道を外れて道に迷うので、それはただ行われ、軽く取られるべきものではなく、難しいことです。 Mark: Yeah, for sure. マーク:ええ、確かに。 Because it's difficult is again, why I haven't probably done it in a while. Parce que c'est encore difficile, c'est pourquoi je ne l'ai probablement pas fait depuis un moment. Perché è di nuovo difficile, perché probabilmente non lo faccio da un po '. 難しいので、なんで久しぶりなのか。 Тому що це знову важко, чому я, мабуть, давно цього не робив. Although I should mention that when I did do it, I can't remember what my time was but, I beat my dad. Bien que je doive mentionner que lorsque je l'ai fait, je ne me souviens pas de mon temps, mais j'ai battu mon père. Anche se dovrei ricordare che quando l'ho fatto, non riesco a ricordare quale fosse il mio tempo, ma ho battuto mio padre. 言っておきますが、やったときは何時だったのか思い出せませんが、お父さんを殴りました。 虽然我应该提一下,当我这样做时,我不记得我的时间是什么,但是,我打败了我的父亲。 Yeah, something like that, 36 or something like that. Ouais, quelque chose comme ça, 36 ou quelque chose comme ça. ええ、そのようなもの、36またはそのようなもの。 Anyway I will do it soon because everybody else here seems to be on the Grouse grind doing fast times. Quoi qu'il en soit, je le ferai bientôt parce que tout le monde ici semble être sur la bonne voie pour faire des temps rapides. とにかく、私はすぐにそれをします。なぜなら、ここの他の誰もが速い時間をやっているグラウスグラインドにいるようだからです。 У будь-якому випадку я зроблю це незабаром, тому що всі інші тут, здається, на гріндах, які роблять швидкі часи.

Jill: The record for doing it is, a guy from New Zealand did it in, I think it was 27 minutes, 26 or 27 minutes and that is the quickest anybody has ever done it. ジル:それをやった記録は、ニュージーランドの男がやったことです。27分、26分、27分だったと思います。これは誰もがやった中で最も速い時間です。 That is somebody who can basically run up the whole hill and that's very unlikely for most people. C'est quelqu'un qui peut gravir toute la colline et c'est très peu probable pour la plupart des gens. Questo è qualcuno che può praticamente correre su tutta la collina ed è molto improbabile per la maggior parte delle persone. それは基本的に丘全体を駆け上がることができる人であり、それはほとんどの人にとって非常にありそうもないことです。 Mark: 27 minutes. That is fast you know. I know the few times I tried it I started out trying to run almost and I mean, after ten minutes of that you are just dead. Je sais que les quelques fois où j'ai essayé, j'ai commencé à essayer de courir presque et je veux dire, après dix minutes, vous êtes juste mort. 私はそれを数回試したことを知っています。私はほとんど走ろうとし始めました、つまり、その10分後にあなたはちょうど死んでいます。 Я знаю, що кілька разів, коли я це пробував, я починав майже бігати, і я маю на увазі, що через десять хвилин ти просто мертвий. You kind of have to start off a little more slowly and then hope you pick up some time at the end. Vous devez en quelque sorte commencer un peu plus lentement et espérer gagner du temps à la fin. In un certo senso devi iniziare un po 'più lentamente e poi speri di riprendere un po' di tempo alla fine. 少しゆっくりと始めて、最後に少し時間を取ってほしいと思います。 Треба починати трохи повільніше, а потім сподіватися, що наприкінці ви знайдете деякий час. It's more being able to hold a constant pace up rather than running but 27 minutes. È più in grado di mantenere un ritmo costante piuttosto che correre ma per 27 minuti. 更重要的是能够保持恒定的速度而不是跑步 27 分钟。 That is fast. New Zealand eh? Never, I don't trust them. Jamais, je ne leur fais pas confiance. 決して、私は彼らを信用していません。 Jill: They have lots of mountains there too so I guess it makes sense. Jill : Il y a aussi beaucoup de montagnes là-bas donc je suppose que c'est logique. ジル:そこにも山がたくさんあるので、それは理にかなっていると思います。 But I ever do it faster than 45 minutes I'd be very happy. Mais je le fais jamais plus vite que 45 minutes, je serais très heureux. しかし、私は45分より速くそれをすることがあります。私はとても幸せです。 Але коли я роблю це швидше, ніж 45 хвилин, я буду дуже щасливий. I can't imagine. 想像できない。 I think the average time, they average it out, is actually it's an hour and a half or an hour and fifteen minutes when they aver it out over all the people who do it. Je pense que le temps moyen, ils font la moyenne, c'est en fait une heure et demie ou une heure et quinze minutes quand ils le calculent sur toutes les personnes qui le font. Ik denk dat de gemiddelde tijd, ze berekenen het uit, in feite anderhalf uur of een uur en vijftien minuten is als ze het uitvergroten over alle mensen die het doen. Я думаю, що середній час, вони усереднюють це, насправді становить півтори години або години і п’ятнадцять хвилин, коли вони порівнюють це з усіма людьми, які це роблять. So you know, the average person I think, even people who are in decent shape, who exercise on a fairly regular basis but maybe don't do a lot of hiking or running or that kind of thing. Donc, vous savez, la personne moyenne, je pense, même les personnes en bonne forme physique, qui font de l'exercice assez régulièrement mais qui ne font peut-être pas beaucoup de randonnée ou de course ou ce genre de choses. Quindi, sai, la persona media che penso, anche le persone che sono in buona forma, che si esercitano su una base abbastanza regolare ma forse non fanno molte escursioni o corsa o quel genere di cose. ですから、私が思う平均的な人は、まともな体型の人でさえ、かなり定期的に運動しますが、ハイキングやランニングなどをあまりしないかもしれません。 It still takes them usually about an hour and ten or an hour and twenty minutes. Cela leur prend toujours environ une heure et dix ou une heure et vingt minutes. Di solito ci vogliono ancora circa un'ora e dieci o un'ora e venti minuti. それでも通常は約1時間10分または1時間20分かかります。 Anybody really under an hour is a good time for the grind. Chiunque in meno di un'ora è un buon momento per la fatica. 本当に1時間未満の人は、挽くのに良い時間です。

Mark: Yeah, I think for sure that's the case. Mark : Oui, je pense que c'est le cas. マーク:ええ、確かにそうだと思います。 Марк: Так, я думаю, що це точно так. I know, getting back to what you were saying earlier about people not being prepared, I mean you see people on there that they are a quarter of the way up and they are there in their loafers and jeans and they have no idea what they were doing and saw some people heading up the trail and thought oh, that looks like fun, yeah, let's walk up the mountain. Je sais, pour en revenir à ce que vous disiez plus tôt à propos des gens qui ne sont pas préparés, je veux dire que vous voyez des gens là-bas qu'ils sont au quart de la hauteur et qu'ils sont là dans leurs mocassins et leurs jeans et qu'ils n'ont aucune idée de ce qu'ils étaient faire et j'ai vu des gens monter le sentier et j'ai pensé oh, ça a l'air amusant, ouais, montons la montagne. 準備ができていない人について前に言ったことに戻ると、そこにいる人は4分の1のところにいて、ローファーやジーンズを履いていて、自分が何であるかわからないということです。何人かの人々がトレイルを進んでいるのを見て、ああ、それは楽しそうだと思いました、ええ、山を登りましょう。 And it's not a walk, it's not a walk. It's definitely strenuous physical activity unlike what I was doing last night. C'est définitivement une activité physique intense contrairement à ce que je faisais la nuit dernière. È un'attività fisica decisamente faticosa a differenza di quella che stavo facendo ieri sera. 昨夜やっていたのとは違い、間違いなく激しい身体活動です。 You were on the grind working hard and I was playing mixed slow pitch softball which is a different kettle of fish. Tu travaillais dur et je jouais à la balle molle mixte à pas lent, ce qui est différent. Stavi lavorando duramente e stavo giocando a softball a passo lento misto che è un diverso bollitore di pesce. あなたは一生懸命働いていて、私は別の魚のやかんである混合スローピッチソフトボールをプレイしていました。 Ви наполегливо працювали, а я грав у змішаний софтбол з повільним кроком, який є іншим чайником з рибою. 你在努力工作,而我在打混合慢速垒球,这是一种不同的鱼。 What do you mean old man sport? Qu'entendez-vous par sport de vieil homme?

Jill: No, I just say that because I know my step dad when I was younger, he played on a slow pitch team so I kind of associate it with a dad thing to do but of course that was twenty years ago when I was only ten years old. Jill : Non, je dis juste que parce que je connais mon beau-père quand j'étais plus jeune, il jouait dans une équipe de balle lente, donc je l'associe en quelque sorte à une chose à faire avec mon père, mais bien sûr, c'était il y a vingt ans, quand je n'avais que dix ans. Jill: No, lo dico solo perché conosco il mio patrigno quando ero più giovane, ha giocato in una squadra a passo lento, quindi in qualche modo lo associo a una cosa da fare da papà, ma ovviamente era vent'anni fa quando ero solo di dieci anni. ジル:いいえ、私は若い頃に継父を知っているので、彼はスローピッチのチームでプレーしていたので、それをお父さんのやることと関連付けていますが、もちろんそれは私が20年前のことでした10歳。 So he seemed old to me at the time. Il m'a donc semblé vieux à l'époque. それで彼はその時私には年をとっているように見えました。

Mark: Well I am a dad, however I never thought I'd be on a slow pitch team because really that's not my speed of game in general, but I did play baseball for a few years as a kid and actually how we ended up having a team, a bunch of the parents at the school we were good friends with, at the kids school, a few guys decided we should have a slow pitch baseball team. Mark : Eh bien, je suis un père, mais je n'aurais jamais pensé que je serais dans une équipe de lancer lent parce que ce n'est vraiment pas ma vitesse de jeu en général, mais j'ai joué au baseball pendant quelques années quand j'étais enfant et en fait, comment nous avons fini par avoir une équipe, un groupe de parents à l'école avec qui nous étions de bons amis, à l'école des enfants, quelques gars ont décidé que nous devrions avoir une équipe de baseball à pas lent. Mark: Beh, sono un papà, tuttavia non avrei mai pensato di far parte di una squadra a passo lento perché in realtà non è la mia velocità di gioco in generale, ma ho giocato a baseball per alcuni anni da bambino e in realtà come siamo finiti avendo una squadra, un gruppo di genitori a scuola con cui eravamo buoni amici, alla scuola per bambini, alcuni ragazzi decisero che avremmo dovuto avere una squadra di baseball a passo lento. マーク:私はお父さんですが、スローピッチのチームに所属するとは思っていませんでした。それは一般的に私のゲームのスピードではないからです。しかし、子供の頃に数年間野球をしていました。私たちが仲良しだった学校にチームとたくさんの両親がいて、キッズスクールでは、数人の男がスローピッチの野球チームを作るべきだと決めました。 It's mixed so that the wives play as well and you know it's, I mean it's slow but actually because it's slow pitch everybody hits. C'est mélangé pour que les femmes jouent aussi et vous savez que c'est, je veux dire, c'est lent mais en fait parce que c'est lent, tout le monde frappe. È mescolato in modo che anche le mogli suonino e sai che lo sono, voglio dire è lento ma in realtà perché è un passo lento che tutti colpiscono. There are not a lot of strike outs and walks so there's a fair amount of activity in the field and it mostly is just a social event. Il n'y a pas beaucoup de grèves et de marches, donc il y a pas mal d'activités sur le terrain et c'est surtout un événement social. Jill: Yeah, in my experience I know my brother has several friends who play slow pitch and have played for a number of years in their twenties so it's not just an old person sport. Jill : Oui, d'après mon expérience, je sais que mon frère a plusieurs amis qui jouent à la balle lente et qui ont joué pendant plusieurs années dans la vingtaine, donc ce n'est pas seulement un sport pour personnes âgées. They do it, I think, definitely more for the social aspect. Ils le font, je pense, définitivement plus pour l'aspect social. 彼らは、間違いなく社会的側面のためにそれをしていると思います。 A bunch of guys, their team is all guys and a bunch of them are friends and have been friends for twenty years and they get together and hang out and girlfriends or wives come and watch and I think there is always some beer and other things or sometimes going out afterwards to a pub is a very popular thing to do too. Un groupe de gars, leur équipe est composée uniquement de gars et un groupe d'entre eux sont des amis et sont amis depuis vingt ans et ils se réunissent et traînent et des copines ou des épouses viennent et regardent et je pense qu'il y a toujours de la bière et d'autres choses ou parfois sortir ensuite dans un pub est aussi une chose très populaire à faire. たくさんの人、彼らのチームはすべての人であり、彼らの多くは友達であり、20年間友達であり、彼らは集まってたむろし、ガールフレンドや妻が来て見ています、そして私はいつもビールや他のものがあると思います時々、後でパブに出かけることも非常に人気のあることです。 I think that it is mostly a social activity and like you say, because it's slow pitch you don't have to be a superstar to be able to play and have fun. それは主に社会的な活動だと思います。あなたが言うように、それは遅いピッチなので、遊んだり楽しんだりするためにスーパースターである必要はありません。 The ball is not coming at your very fast so you can usually hit it which makes the game more fun. ボールはあまり速く来ないので、通常はボールを打つことができ、ゲームがより楽しくなります。

Mark: By the way when we, when I call it slow pitch, slow pitch is soft ball but it's like a lobbing pitch, it's like a moon ball we call it as opposed to real baseball where the ball comes in over hand or fast pitch soft ball where it's under hand but it's very hard. Mark : Au fait, quand nous, quand j'appelle ça le lancer lent, le lancer lent est une balle molle mais c'est comme un lancer lobé, c'est comme une boule de lune que nous appelons cela par opposition au vrai baseball où la balle arrive par-dessus la main ou lancer rapide balle molle où c'est sous la main mais c'est très dur. マーク:ちなみに、私がスローピッチと呼ぶとき、スローピッチはソフトボールですが、ロビングピッチのようなもので、ボールが手に届く本物の野球やファストピッチとは対照的に、ムーンボールのようなものです。手元にあるソフトボールですが、とても硬いです。 Марк: До речі, коли ми, коли я називаю це повільним, повільний м'яч є м'яким м'ячем, але це як поле для лобінга, це як місячний м'яч, ми називаємо це на відміну від справжнього бейсболу, де м'яч йде над рукою або швидким поданням. м’який м’яч там, де він під рукою, але він дуже твердий. Slow pitch is a lobbing pitch that's easy to connect with. スローピッチは、接続しやすいロビングピッチです。 Sometimes it's easy to pop up the ball or hit grounders, whatever, but at any rate, there's a lot of action for the defensive team as well so as you said, everybody gets into the game and as you also said a big part of it is the social aspect. Parfois, il est facile de faire éclater le ballon ou de frapper les joueurs au sol, peu importe, mais en tout cas, il y a beaucoup d'action pour l'équipe défensive aussi, donc comme vous l'avez dit, tout le monde entre dans le jeu et comme vous l'avez également dit une grande partie de celui-ci est l'aspect social. ボールをポップアップしたり、グラウンダーを打ったりするのは簡単なこともありますが、とにかく、ディフェンスチームにも多くのアクションがあります。あなたが言ったように、誰もがゲームに参加し、あなたがその大部分を言ったように社会的側面です。 There are not many games you can play just about while drinking beer, not to down play the athletic aspect of what we're doing but if there was no beer allowed I'm not so sure we'd be playing, which I wouldn't say about any of the other games I play. Il n'y a pas beaucoup de jeux auxquels vous pouvez jouer juste en buvant de la bière, pas pour minimiser l'aspect athlétique de ce que nous faisons, mais s'il n'y avait pas de bière autorisée, je ne suis pas sûr que nous jouerions, ce que je ne ferais pas. Je ne parle d'aucun des autres jeux auxquels je joue. Non ci sono molti giochi a cui puoi giocare mentre bevi birra, non per minimizzare l'aspetto atletico di ciò che stiamo facendo, ma se non ci fosse la birra consentita non sono così sicuro che giocheremo, cosa che non farei Non dico di nessuno degli altri giochi a cui gioco. ビールを飲みながらプレイできるゲームは多くありません。私たちがやっていることの運動的な側面を軽視するためではありませんが、ビールが許可されていなかった場合、私たちがプレイするかどうかはわかりません。私がプレイする他のゲームについては言いません。 喝啤酒的时候你可以玩的游戏并不多,不要低估我们正在做的运动方面的事情,但如果不允许喝啤酒,我不太确定我们会玩,我不会不说我玩的任何其他游戏。 Part of it is in the spring and summer and the weather is nice and friends get together and the kids are out playing at the playground next door and it's just a fun thing to do. その一部は春と夏で、天気は良く、友達が集まり、子供たちは隣の遊び場で遊んでいます。それは楽しいことです。 But certainly not as strenuous as the Grouse grind. しかし、確かにグラウスグラインドほど精力的ではありません。

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