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Honduran Indigenous Rights Leader, Berta Cáceres, Is Murdered

RENEE MONTAGNE, HOST:

Honduras has one of the highest murder rates in the world. The drug trade is responsible for much of that. But yesterday, there was a different victim. Berta Caceres was a Lenca Indian activist well-known in her country, shot in her home. She was not only known in Honduras, she was one of the world's best-known environmentalists and had recently opposed plans for a dam on a river considered sacred by the Lenca. Honduran police have said they are investigating the murder as a botched robbery, but many of her colleagues believe Caceres was targeted. We've got fellow activist Annie Bird on the line from Guatemala. She knew Berta Caceres for many years. Welcome to the program.

ANNIE BIRD: Thank you.

MONTAGNE: Now, she was, it must be said, receiving death threats for quite some time. How seriously would she have taken that, and why do you think this did happen just now at this moment in time?

BIRD: Well, she had been receiving death threats for the entire time that I knew her, really, but in recent months particularly, the threats had become more worrisome for her. And she had expressed that she felt that it was likely that she could be killed. I think it's very clear, this dam that was being built - the work on the dam was advancing rapidly or is advancing rapidly right now, and I think tensions have grown as that's happened. MONTAGNE: And tensions, exactly, with whom?

BIRD: So the dam is a privately-owned energy generation project, one of dozens that are being developed around the country and that were given in concession to private companies following the 2009 military coup. So it benefits private investors and is taking away resources from indigenous communities.

MONTAGNE: Is there anything coming out or known about those who would be directly suspected of killing her?

BIRD: Well, the organization that she works with, COPIHN, feels very strongly that this - her killing was related to the dam project. Armed men broke down her door in the middle of the night and shot her and left, so there's not really another motive. And she had been under extreme attack by the company for months leading up - ridicule on the media, subject to constant threats in front of Honduran security forces.

MONTAGNE: What does this high-profile murder mean for other environmentalists or for workers in Honduras who are working with - for indigenous rights?

BIRD: Well, it sends a message around the country. Berta was so well-known, so well-loved throughout Honduras and internationally. And people are pouring in from around the country to her funeral tomorrow and internationally. And, you know, people see that if they can kill Berta in this way, they could kill anyone who's working for the same causes that she was working for. So it has a terrifying impact. But it also enrages and motivates people to continue to work for social justice.

MONTAGNE: Annie Bird is a long-time activist and friend of indigenous rights leader Berta Caceres. She was murdered yesterday. She would have turned 45 years old today. Thank you for joining us.

BIRD: Thank you.

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Honduran Indigenous Rights Leader, Berta Cáceres, Is Murdered hondureño|indígena|derechos|líder|Berta|Cáceres|es|asesinada La líder indígena hondureña de derechos, Berta Cáceres, es asesinada

RENEE MONTAGNE, HOST: RENEE|MONTAGNE|presentadora RENEE MONTAGNE, ANFITRIONA:

Honduras has one of the highest murder rates in the world. Honduras|tiene|una|de|las|más altos|homicidio|tasas|en|el|mundo Honduras tiene una de las tasas de homicidio más altas del mundo. The drug trade is responsible for much of that. el|droga|comercio|es|responsable|por|mucho|de|eso El narcotráfico es responsable de gran parte de eso. But yesterday, there was a different victim. pero|ayer|allí|hubo|una|diferente|víctima Pero ayer, hubo una víctima diferente. Berta Caceres was a Lenca Indian activist well-known in her country, shot in her home. Berta|Caceres|fue|una|Lenca|india|activista|||en|su|país|disparada|en|su|casa Berta Cáceres era una activista indígena Lenca muy conocida en su país, asesinada en su hogar. She was not only known in Honduras, she was one of the world's best-known environmentalists and had recently opposed plans for a dam on a river considered sacred by the Lenca. ella|fue|no|solo|conocida|en|Honduras|ella|fue|una|de|los|mundo|||ambientalistas|y|había|recientemente|opuesto|planes|para|una|represa|en|un|río|considerado|sagrado|por|los|Lenca No solo era conocida en Honduras, era una de las ambientalistas más reconocidas del mundo y recientemente se había opuesto a los planes para una represa en un río considerado sagrado por los Lenca. Honduran police have said they are investigating the murder as a botched robbery, but many of her colleagues believe Caceres was targeted. hondureña|policía|han|dicho|ellos|están|investigando|el|asesinato|como|un|fallido|robo|pero|muchos|de|su|colegas|creen|Caceres|fue|blanco La policía hondureña ha dicho que está investigando el asesinato como un robo fallido, pero muchos de sus colegas creen que Cáceres fue un objetivo. We've got fellow activist Annie Bird on the line from Guatemala. hemos|tenido|compañera|activista|Annie|Bird|en|la|línea|de|Guatemala Tenemos a la activista Annie Bird en la línea desde Guatemala. She knew Berta Caceres for many years. ella|conoció|Berta|Caceres|por|muchos|años Conoció a Berta Cáceres durante muchos años. Welcome to the program. bienvenido|al|el|programa Bienvenida al programa.

ANNIE BIRD: Thank you. ANNIE|BIRD|gracias|te ANNIE BIRD: Gracias.

MONTAGNE: Now, she was, it must be said, receiving death threats for quite some time. ||ella|estaba|eso|debe|ser|dicho|recibiendo|muerte|amenazas|por|bastante|algún|tiempo MONTAGNE: Ahora, ella estaba, hay que decirlo, recibiendo amenazas de muerte durante bastante tiempo. How seriously would she have taken that, and why do you think this did happen just now at this moment in time? cómo|en serio|verbo auxiliar condicional|ella|habría|tomado|eso|y|por qué|verbo auxiliar|tú|piensas|esto|verbo auxiliar pasado|sucedió|justo|ahora|en|este|momento|en|tiempo ¿Qué tan en serio se lo habría tomado, y por qué crees que esto sucedió justo ahora en este momento?

BIRD: Well, she had been receiving death threats for the entire time that I knew her, really, but in recent months particularly, the threats had become more worrisome for her. ||ella|había|estado|recibiendo|muerte|amenazas|por|el|entero|tiempo|que|yo|conocía|a ella|realmente|pero|en|recientes|meses|particularmente|las|amenazas|habían|vuelto|más|preocupantes|para|ella BIRD: Bueno, ella había estado recibiendo amenazas de muerte durante todo el tiempo que la conocí, realmente, pero en los últimos meses, en particular, las amenazas se habían vuelto más preocupantes para ella. And she had expressed that she felt that it was likely that she could be killed. y|ella|había|expresado|que|ella|sentía|que|eso|estaba|probable|que|ella|podría|ser|asesinada Y ella había expresado que sentía que era probable que pudiera ser asesinada. I think it's very clear, this dam that was being built - the work on the dam was advancing rapidly or is advancing rapidly right now, and I think tensions have grown as that's happened. yo|pienso|es|muy|claro|esta|represa|que|estaba|siendo|construida|el|trabajo|en|la|represa|estaba|avanzando|rápidamente|o|está|avanzando|rápidamente|ahora|ahora|y|yo|pienso|tensiones|han|crecido|a medida que||sucedido Creo que está muy claro, esta represa que se estaba construyendo - el trabajo en la represa estaba avanzando rápidamente o está avanzando rápidamente en este momento, y creo que las tensiones han crecido a medida que eso ha sucedido. MONTAGNE: And tensions, exactly, with whom? MONTAGNE|y|tensiones|exactamente|con|quién MONTAGNE: ¿Y tensiones, exactamente, con quién?

BIRD: So the dam is a privately-owned energy generation project, one of dozens that are being developed around the country and that were given in concession to private companies following the 2009 military coup. BIRD|así que|la|represa|es|un|||energía|generación|proyecto|uno|de|docenas|que|están|siendo|desarrollados|alrededor|el|país|y|que|fueron|otorgados|en|concesión|a|privadas|empresas|después de|el|militar|golpe BIRD: Así que la represa es un proyecto de generación de energía de propiedad privada, uno de los docenas que se están desarrollando en todo el país y que fueron concedidos a empresas privadas tras el golpe militar de 2009. So it benefits private investors and is taking away resources from indigenous communities. así que|eso|beneficia|privados|inversionistas|y|está|quitando|away|recursos|de|indígenas|comunidades Así que beneficia a los inversores privados y está quitando recursos a las comunidades indígenas.

MONTAGNE: Is there anything coming out or known about those who would be directly suspected of killing her? ||algo|algo|saliendo|afuera|o|conocido|sobre|aquellos|que|verbo auxiliar condicional|estarían|directamente|sospechados|de|matar|ella MONTAGNE: ¿Hay algo que se sepa o que esté saliendo sobre aquellos que serían directamente sospechosos de matarla?

BIRD: Well, the organization that she works with, COPIHN, feels very strongly that this - her killing was related to the dam project. ||la|organización|que|ella|trabaja|con|COPIHN|siente|muy|fuertemente|que|esto|su|asesinato|fue|relacionado|con|el|represa|proyecto BIRD: Bueno, la organización con la que trabaja, COPIHN, siente muy fuertemente que esto - su asesinato estaba relacionado con el proyecto de la represa. Armed men broke down her door in the middle of the night and shot her and left, so there's not really another motive. armados|hombres|rompieron|abajo|su|puerta|en|la|mitad|de|la|noche|y|dispararon|ella|y|se fueron|así|no hay|no|realmente|otro|motivo Hombres armados rompieron su puerta en medio de la noche y la dispararon y se fueron, así que realmente no hay otro motivo. And she had been under extreme attack by the company for months leading up - ridicule on the media, subject to constant threats in front of Honduran security forces. y|ella|había|estado|bajo|extremo|ataque|por|la|compañía|por|meses|que llevaron|arriba|ridículo|en|los|medios|sujeto|a|constantes|amenazas|frente|frente|de|hondureñas|seguridad|fuerzas Y ella había estado bajo un ataque extremo por parte de la empresa durante meses previos - ridiculizada en los medios, sujeta a constantes amenazas frente a las fuerzas de seguridad hondureñas.

MONTAGNE: What does this high-profile murder mean for other environmentalists or for workers in Honduras who are working with - for indigenous rights? MONTAGNE|qué|hace|este|||asesinato|significa|para|otros|ambientalistas|o|para|trabajadores|en|Honduras|que|están|trabajando|con|por|indígenas|derechos MONTAGNE: ¿Qué significa este asesinato de alto perfil para otros ambientalistas o para los trabajadores en Honduras que están trabajando por los derechos indígenas?

BIRD: Well, it sends a message around the country. BIRD|bueno|eso|envía|un|mensaje|alrededor|el|país BIRD: Bueno, envía un mensaje por todo el país. Berta was so well-known, so well-loved throughout Honduras and internationally. Berta|fue|tan|||tan|||en todo|Honduras|y|internacionalmente Berta era tan conocida, tan querida en toda Honduras e internacionalmente. And people are pouring in from around the country to her funeral tomorrow and internationally. y|la gente|están|llegando|adentro|de|alrededor|el|país|a|su|funeral|mañana|y|internacionalmente Y la gente está llegando de todo el país a su funeral mañana e internacionalmente. And, you know, people see that if they can kill Berta in this way, they could kill anyone who's working for the same causes that she was working for. y|tú|sabes|la gente|ve|que|si|ellos|pueden|matar|Berta|de|esta|manera|ellos|podrían|matar|a cualquiera|que está|trabajando|por|las|mismas|causas|que|ella|estaba|trabajando|por Y, ya sabes, la gente ve que si pueden matar a Berta de esta manera, podrían matar a cualquiera que esté trabajando por las mismas causas por las que ella trabajaba. So it has a terrifying impact. así que|eso|tiene|un|aterrador|impacto Así que tiene un impacto aterrador. But it also enrages and motivates people to continue to work for social justice. pero|eso|también|enfurece|y|motiva|a la gente|a|continuar|a|trabajar|por|justicia|social Pero también enfurece y motiva a las personas a seguir trabajando por la justicia social.

MONTAGNE: Annie Bird is a long-time activist and friend of indigenous rights leader Berta Caceres. MONTAGNE|Annie|Bird|es|una|||activista|y|amiga|de|indígenas|derechos|líder|Berta|Caceres MONTAGNE: Annie Bird es una activista de larga data y amiga de la líder de derechos indígenas Berta Caceres. She was murdered yesterday. ella|fue|asesinada|ayer Ella fue asesinada ayer. She would have turned 45 years old today. ella|verbo auxiliar condicional|habría|cumplido|años|de edad|hoy Hoy habría cumplido 45 años. Thank you for joining us. gracias|tú|por|unirte|nosotros Gracias por unirse a nosotros.

BIRD: Thank you. pájaro|gracias|tú AVE: Gracias.

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