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NPR's podcasts, Government's Secrecy Contributes To Zika Outbreak In Venezuela, Critics Say

Government's Secrecy Contributes To Zika Outbreak In Venezuela, Critics Say

STEVE INSKEEP, HOST:

Let's consider a few facts about Venezuela. There's widespread evidence that the government there has mismanaged the economy. Even the middle class has run short of food and toilet paper. The socialist government is also notorious for its secrecy. This very government is now the one that is supposed to coordinate Venezuela's response to the Zika virus. Reporter John Otis found it's hard to know what is happening inside Venezuela's public health system. He starts by following a doctor into a Venezuelan hospital.

JOSE MANUEL OLIVARES: (Speaking Spanish).

JOHN OTIS, BYLINE: Jose Manuel Olivares is a doctor and an opposition congressman. He's visiting public hospitals, like this one in the Atlantic port of La Guaira.

The ER overflows with patients. Beds occupy the hallways. Nurses tell Olivares about a shortage of drugs, syringes and rubber gloves. But complaining too loudly is risky. Hospital staffers are government employees, and loyalty to the ruling Socialist party is expected.

JAIME CONTRERAS: (Speaking Spanish).

OTIS: So says neurosurgeon Jaime Contreras, who tracks down Olivares in a hospital hallway. He's worked here for seven years, but was fired just hours before we arrived. His sin - Contreras refused to operate on a patient because there was no clean water to wash his hands. Before leaving, he vents his frustration on a hospital manager.

CONTRERAS: (Speaking Spanish).

OTIS: The hospital visit will help Olivares prepare a report for Congress on Venezuela's deteriorating public health system. The idea is to break through what he describes as an information blackout by President Nicolas Maduro's administration. It's not just health. The government often refuses to divulge data on everything from skyrocketing inflation to plummeting food production. Venezuela's deepening economic crisis prompted opposition leaders last month to call for nationwide protests to force Maduro's resignation. Olivares says releasing grim statistics would further erode Maduro's support and reflect badly on the socialist revolution ushered in by the late Hugo Chavez 17 years ago.

OLIVARES: (Speaking Spanish).

OTIS: "It's government policy to suppress information," says Olivares. "But," he adds, "they need to understand that politics can't come before the problems of the people - especially health problems." Besides Zika, Venezuela's dealing with outbreaks of dengue, chikungunya and malaria. But the health ministry has published only sporadically what's supposed to be a weekly bulletin on infectious diseases. The government is so secretive that it has yet to tell Venezuelans what kind of cancer killed Chavez three years ago. The health ministry did not respond to NPR's request for comment. When it does release statistics, critics say they're incomplete. The most recent numbers on Zika came in January from Health Minister Luisana Melo.

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LUISANA MELO: (Speaking Spanish).

OTIS: She reported 4,700 suspected cases. But there's been a spike in fevers unrelated to the usual culprits like dengue. That's why a group of independent doctors claims that a more realistic figure would be half a million Zika cases. One of these doctors is former Health Minister Jose Oletta.

JOSE OLETTA: (Speaking Spanish).

OTIS: He says, "If you don't tell people about health threats, they won't recognize the risks, and are more likely to get sick." Meanwhile, Congressman Olivares continues his fact-finding missions. But he's often been stymied by soldiers who guard state-run medical facilities and by government-organized mobs.

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UNIDENTIFIED CROWD: (Shouting in Spanish).

OTIS: That was the case when he and other opposition lawmakers tried to visit a hospital in the western city of Maracaibo. An angry crowd shouted insults and blocked the entrance. The congressman never managed to get inside. For NPR News, I'm John Otis, La Guaira, Venezuela.


Government's Secrecy Contributes To Zika Outbreak In Venezuela, Critics Say 批评者称政府保密导致委内瑞拉爆发寨卡疫情

STEVE INSKEEP, HOST:

Let’s consider a few facts about Venezuela. Venezuela hakkında birkaç gerçek düşünelim. There’s widespread evidence that the government there has mismanaged the economy. Oradaki hükümetin ekonomiyi yanlış yönettiğine dair yaygın kanıtlar var. Even the middle class has run short of food and toilet paper. Orta sınıf bile yemek ve tuvalet kağıdını tüketti. The socialist government is also notorious for its secrecy. Sosyalist hükümet de gizliliği nedeniyle meşhurdur. This very government is now the one that is supposed to coordinate Venezuela’s response to the Zika virus. Bu hükümet şu anda, Venezüella'nın Zika virüsüne verdiği yanıtı koordine etmesi gereken hükümet. Reporter John Otis found it’s hard to know what is happening inside Venezuela’s public health system. Muhabir John Otis, Venezuela halk sağlığı sisteminde neler olup bittiğini bilmek zor bulundu. He starts by following a doctor into a Venezuelan hospital. Venezüella hastanesine doktora devam ederek başlıyor.

JOSE MANUEL OLIVARES: (Speaking Spanish).

JOHN OTIS, BYLINE: Jose Manuel Olivares is a doctor and an opposition congressman. JOHN OTIS, BYLINE: Jose Manuel Olivares bir doktor ve muhalif bir kongre üyesidir. He’s visiting public hospitals, like this one in the Atlantic port of La Guaira. Atlantik limanındaki La Guaira limanındaki gibi devlet hastanelerini ziyaret ediyor.

The ER overflows with patients. ER hastalarla taşar. Beds occupy the hallways. Yataklar koridorları kaplar. Nurses tell Olivares about a shortage of drugs, syringes and rubber gloves. Hemşireler Olivares'ye uyuşturucu, şırınga ve lastik eldiven kıtlığını anlatıyor. But complaining too loudly is risky. Ancak çok yüksek sesle şikayet etmek risklidir. Hospital staffers are government employees, and loyalty to the ruling Socialist party is expected. Hastane çalışanları devlet çalışanlarıdır ve iktidardaki Sosyalist partiye sadakat beklenmektedir.

JAIME CONTRERAS: (Speaking Spanish).

OTIS: So says neurosurgeon Jaime Contreras, who tracks down Olivares in a hospital hallway. OTIS: Diyelim ki Olivares'i hastane koridorunda izleyen beyin cerrahı Jaime Contreras. He’s worked here for seven years, but was fired just hours before we arrived. His sin - Contreras refused to operate on a patient because there was no clean water to wash his hands. Günahı - Contreras hasta üzerinde çalışmayı reddetti çünkü ellerini yıkamak için temiz su yoktu. Before leaving, he vents his frustration on a hospital manager. Ayrılmadan önce, hayal kırıklığını hastane müdürüne gönderir.

CONTRERAS: (Speaking Spanish).

OTIS: The hospital visit will help Olivares prepare a report for Congress on Venezuela’s deteriorating public health system. OTIS: Hastane ziyareti Olivares'nin Venezüella'nın kötüleşen halk sağlığı sistemi kongresi için bir rapor hazırlamasına yardımcı olacak. The idea is to break through what he describes as an information blackout by President Nicolas Maduro’s administration. Fikir, Cumhurbaşkanı Nicolas Maduro yönetiminin karartması olarak nitelendirdiği şeyi kırmak. It’s not just health. Bu sadece sağlık değil. The government often refuses to divulge data on everything from skyrocketing inflation to plummeting food production. Hükümet çoğu zaman, fırıldak enflasyonundan başlayıp gıda üretimine kadar her şeyin verilerini ifşa etmeyi reddetti. Venezuela’s deepening economic crisis prompted opposition leaders last month to call for nationwide protests to force Maduro’s resignation. Venezüella’nın derinleşen ekonomik krizi muhalefet liderlerini geçen ay Maduro’nun istifasını zorlamak için ülke çapında protesto çağrısı yapmaya teşvik etti. Olivares says releasing grim statistics would further erode Maduro’s support and reflect badly on the socialist revolution ushered in by the late Hugo Chavez 17 years ago. Olivares, sert istatistiklerin yayınlanmasının Maduro'nun desteğini daha da aşındıracağını ve 17 yıl önce Hugo Chavez'in yaşadığı sosyalist devrime kötü yansıtacağını söyledi.

OLIVARES: (Speaking Spanish).

OTIS: "It’s government policy to suppress information," says Olivares. OTIS: "Bilgileri bastırmak hükümet politikasıdır" diyor Olivares. "But," he adds, "they need to understand that politics can’t come before the problems of the people - especially health problems." "Ama," diye ekliyor, "siyasetin halkın sorunlarına, özellikle de sağlık sorunlarına gelemeyeceğini anlamalılar." Besides Zika, Venezuela’s dealing with outbreaks of dengue, chikungunya and malaria. Venezuela, Zika'nın yanı sıra, dang, chikungunya ve sıtma salgınlarıyla da uğraşıyor. But the health ministry has published only sporadically what’s supposed to be a weekly bulletin on infectious diseases. Ancak sağlık bakanlığı, bulaşıcı hastalıklar hakkında haftalık bir bülten olması gerekenleri yalnızca ara sıra yayınladı. The government is so secretive that it has yet to tell Venezuelans what kind of cancer killed Chavez three years ago. Hükümet o kadar gizlidir ki, Venezüellalılara üç yıl önce Chavez'i nasıl bir kanser öldürdüğünü söylemedi. The health ministry did not respond to NPR’s request for comment. Sağlık bakanlığı NPR'nin yorum talebine cevap vermedi. When it does release statistics, critics say they’re incomplete. İstatistik yayınladığı zaman, eleştirmenler eksik olduklarını söylüyor. The most recent numbers on Zika came in January from Health Minister Luisana Melo. Zika'daki en son rakamlar Ocak ayında Sağlık Bakanı Luisana Melo'den geldi.

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LUISANA MELO: (Speaking Spanish).

OTIS: She reported 4,700 suspected cases. But there’s been a spike in fevers unrelated to the usual culprits like dengue. Ancak, Dang gibi her zamanki suçlularla ilgisi olmayan ateşlerde bir artış var. That’s why a group of independent doctors claims that a more realistic figure would be half a million Zika cases. Bu yüzden bir grup bağımsız doktor daha gerçekçi bir rakamın yarım milyon Zika vakası olacağını iddia ediyor. One of these doctors is former Health Minister Jose Oletta. Bu doktorlardan biri eski Sağlık Bakanı Jose Oletta.

JOSE OLETTA: (Speaking Spanish).

OTIS: He says, "If you don’t tell people about health threats, they won’t recognize the risks, and are more likely to get sick." OTIS: “İnsanlara sağlık tehditlerini anlatmazsanız, riskleri tanımayacakları ve hastalanma ihtimalleri daha yüksek” diyor. Meanwhile, Congressman Olivares continues his fact-finding missions. Bu arada, Kongre Üyesi Olivares olay bulma görevine devam ediyor. But he’s often been stymied by soldiers who guard state-run medical facilities and by government-organized mobs. Ancak, devlet tarafından işletilen tıbbi tesisleri koruyan askerler ve hükümet tarafından organize edilen çeteler tarafından sık sık rahatsız ediliyor.

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UNIDENTIFIED CROWD: (Shouting in Spanish).

OTIS: That was the case when he and other opposition lawmakers tried to visit a hospital in the western city of Maracaibo. OTIS: O ve diğer muhalefet milletvekillerinin batıdaki Maracaibo şehrinde bir hastaneyi ziyaret etmeye çalıştıkları durum buydu. An angry crowd shouted insults and blocked the entrance. Öfkeli bir kalabalık hakaret diye bağırdı ve girişi engelledi. The congressman never managed to get inside. For NPR News, I’m John Otis, La Guaira, Venezuela.