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Steve's Youtube Videos - General Language Learning, Language Study Motivation and Repetition Q&A

Language Study Motivation and Repetition Q&A

There's all kinds of research that shows that, you know, trying to block, learn something to nail something down, to listen to it over and over again, to read the same thing again, all of this is not very effective. Hi there, Steve Kaufmann here again. Today, I'm going to talk a little more about repetition and I'm going to do things a little differently because I'm going to answer some of the questions that people have given me here on my YouTube., Which I often don't have the time to answer individually. Remember if you enjoy these podcasts, please subscribe, click on the bell for notifications. And if you follow these podcasts on Spotify or Apple Podcasts or any other podcast network, please make sure you leave a review. All right. So, because there was a fair discussion about this issue of the importance of repetition and some questions about it, I was going to answer them. And then I thought, you know, maybe people would appreciate having the answers to these questions, uh, in a video. So, uh, I get a lot of very kind comments thanking me for my videos and I get greetings from different places. I won't necessarily respond to those, although I do appreciate them, but where there are questions that I think would be of general interest then I will respond to them.

So, and here are my fancy clickable glasses again. So, excellent contents so forth and so on. Here...he goes on to say, I agree with you. Uh, so anyway... like he goes back and listens again to the same episodes and, uh...so his vocabulary and his, uh, pronunciation have improved... so he kind of gets the habits and the intonation of the native speaker. So yeah, repetition works. How much you repeat is up to you. And I have said that there is this diminishing returns.

You can't just keep on repeating, you know, listening to the same thing over and over and over again, you have to go ahead in my opinion, at least and in my experience, go ahead and, you know, looking for that new, remember the sort of repetition and novelty. So go for it. Uh, find new things, interesting things, fresh things, but then go back to the old things again.

And in that way, I think the repetition is really effective. However, there are people, and I mentioned the example of this Chinese immigrant to Canada, who claimed that he listened to the same CD a thousand times and he had excellent pronunciation. So it is a function of our willingness to tolerate, tolerate sort of boredom.

All right. So then, uh, okay, so here it's extremely boring to listen to limited information a hundred times, it contradicts the main idea of having fun, fun while learning. Yes, absolutely. Uh, not only does it contradict the idea of having fun in my experience, depending on what you're doing it for. If you're doing it for pronunciation, maybe if you're doing it to, you know, get a better grasp on vocabulary or structure.

There's all kinds of research that shows that, you know, trying to block learn something, to nail something down, to listen to it over and over again, to read the same thing again, all of this is not very effective. And we are better off grazing, going off to something else and then coming back again and going away again and coming back again.

And that way we notice more things, we may forget certain things. We come back and we notice them again. We're more likely to retain them. So don't assume that repetition means, has to mean just sitting there and repeatedly listening to the same thing. You may do some of that. And I think it's very important that we are in charge of our own learning.

So do what you think is worthwhile. Uh, do what seems to work for you, what you enjoy doing, and you'll be more successful. So, uh, he has neglected his listening comprehension. That's very common. A lot of people neglect listening comprehension. Uh, are there any strategies you have while listening? Well, the one strategy is so, someone asked perhaps on my Twitter, you know, if you don't understand something, but you really like the voice and you read it the whole mood of the thing grabs you, is it still worthwhile listening? Yes, it is. So that can be one strategy. Uh, I listened to these Chinese... and I really didn't understand more than 40 or 50%, but it was captivating just by the rhythm and the voices.

It was like melody. I listened to in Japan, I listened to a show on the history of Japan, the Showa era. And again, I didn't understand more than 40 50%, but the voice, the excitement, these were nude, nude: news broadcasts from, you know, whatever Olympic games in 1960 or whatever it might be. And so again, there is value in that and there can be value in listening to, uh, as I say, repetitive listening. I find that if you don't understand, or if you don't have the means to eventually understand, that's less effective.

So I will always want to have my transcripts. So in some cases, that means that I go to, uh, automatic transcription service, uh, and, and get that transcript, which may only be 90% accurate, but at least it gives me a chance. Otherwise, this there's always the same things that I don't understand. So, um, you know, I do some mini stories, which is a lot of repetition and at the same time, I go for more difficult material, but I try to always get the transcript.

But I didn't have the transcript for the... in Chinese, 50 years ago. And I didn't have the transcript for... in Japan, say 40 years ago and I still enjoyed learning them. And I think they helped me with my pronunciation. They help moving me forward in the language, but I, it's not like I understood zero.

I understood half let's say. So another thing he says, he gets frustrated. Okay. Here's a strategy for listening. Don't get frustrated. Okay. Learn to deal with uncertainty, vagueness, fog, you don't fully understand. If you're understanding even 30, 40% that 30, 40% is washing over your brain, it's helping you.

And meanwhile, you're alert to try and at least hear the other words that you don't know. Again, ideally, if you can get the transcript, you can then go in and look up those words. But again, even after having looked these words up and then when you listen again, good chance, you still want to understand, so learn to accept that that is part of the process. But then six months later, you will look back and you'll realize that you'll now understand so much more than you did six months earlier. Okay. So he also loses himself and he says... So yeah. When we're listening, we're not going to, there's no way we can be concentrating the whole time. Uh, we don't understand it all, at times we're focused, uh, even the second or third time we listened, we focus on certain structures maybe. Uh, but then we, the mind wanders and that's perfectly all right, because for the period of time that you are focused, for the period of time that you under, understanding things for the period of time that this sound in another language is meaning for you, meaningful communication in the language.

You are learning, you are getting the brain used to the language. So frustration, it's a similar comment to the other person. Frustration is a bad thing. Avoid frustration, accept what the process is. If you understood everything, you wouldn't need to learn the language. Now. So, so synaptic solder adheres many things.

I mean, obviously this is this idea that the, uh, what, uh, you know, the neurons firing together. Uh, but I, I do insist that we also need to have some things that are interesting. You can overdo, uh, the repetition. Uh, you've got to kind of mix in both. Uh, so, and these are things that we have to explore on our own.

We have to be in charge. I think if we are in charge, it's easier to focus. It's easier to be motivated. Uh, it's not like something is being pushed at you, so it's not like you should feel helpless or frustrated because you don't understand. You chose to listen to that. Uh, you can choose to listen to easier stuff.

You can choose to listen to more difficult stuff where maybe you like the voice, but you don't understand as much. It's, it's, I think it's very important that in all of this, for any of these strategies, You've got to feel that you chose this strategy, you try different strategies, you found the one that works for you.

You can listen to what I have to say, you can listen to what other people have to say, you choose a strategy that works for you. Believe in it. Stay the course and you will improve. Maybe I'll just leave it there and next time maybe I will organize these so I don't have to go through exactly picking out the questions that I should answer.

And let me, let me know if you think this is useful, I could go back down through a longer list of questions and answer them here via video, rather than answering them by individually, um, you know, answering them in the comments section. Anyway uh, thank you for listening. I'll leave a few videos that might be relevant to this discussion.

Bye for now.


Language Study Motivation and Repetition Q&A Estudio de idiomas Motivación y repetición Preguntas y respuestas

There's all kinds of research that shows that, you know, trying to block, learn something to nail something down, to listen to it over and over again, to read the same thing again, all of this is not very effective. Hay todo tipo de investigaciones que muestran que, ya sabes, tratar de bloquear, aprender algo para concretar algo, escucharlo una y otra vez, leer lo mismo otra vez, todo esto no es muy efectivo. Hi there, Steve Kaufmann here again. Today, I'm going to talk a little more about repetition and I'm going to do things a little differently because I'm going to answer some of the questions that people have given me here on my YouTube., Which I often don't have the time to answer individually. Remember if you enjoy these podcasts, please subscribe, click on the bell for notifications. And if you follow these podcasts on Spotify or Apple Podcasts or any other podcast network, please make sure you leave a review. All right. So, because there was a fair discussion about this issue of the importance of repetition and some questions about it, I was going to answer them. And then I thought, you know, maybe people would appreciate having the answers to these questions, uh, in a video. So, uh, I get a lot of very kind comments thanking me for my videos and I get greetings from different places. I won't necessarily respond to those, although I do appreciate them, but where there are questions that I think would be of general interest then I will respond to them.

So, and here are my fancy clickable glasses again. Entonces, y aquí están mis elegantes lentes en los que se puede hacer clic nuevamente. So, excellent contents so forth and so on. だから、優れたコンテンツなど。 Dus uitstekende inhoud enzovoort, enzovoort. Here...he goes on to say, I agree with you. Uh, so anyway...  like he goes back and listens again to the same episodes and, uh...so his vocabulary and his, uh, pronunciation have improved... so he kind of gets the habits and the intonation of the native speaker. Uh, así que de todos modos... como si volviera a escuchar los mismos episodios y, uh... entonces su vocabulario y su, uh, pronunciación han mejorado... así que adquiere los hábitos y la entonación de la hablante nativo. So yeah, repetition works. How much you repeat is up to you. And I have said that there is this diminishing returns. Y he dicho que existe este rendimiento decreciente.

You can't just keep on repeating, you know, listening to the same thing over and over and over again, you have to go ahead in my opinion, at least and in my experience, go ahead and, you know, looking for that new, remember the sort of repetition and novelty. So go for it. Uh, find new things, interesting things, fresh things, but then go back to the old things again.

And in that way, I think the repetition is really effective. However, there are people, and I mentioned the example of this Chinese immigrant to Canada, who claimed that he listened to the same CD a thousand times and he had excellent pronunciation. So it is a function of our willingness to tolerate, tolerate sort of boredom. Así que es una función de nuestra voluntad de tolerar, tolerar una especie de aburrimiento.

All right. So then, uh, okay, so here it's extremely boring to listen to limited information a hundred times, it contradicts the main idea of having fun, fun while learning. Yes, absolutely. Uh, not only does it contradict the idea of having fun in my experience, depending on what you're doing it for. Uh, no solo contradice la idea de divertirse en mi experiencia, dependiendo de para qué lo estés haciendo. If you're doing it for pronunciation, maybe if you're doing it to, you know, get a better grasp on vocabulary or structure. Si lo haces por la pronunciación, tal vez si lo haces para, ya sabes, comprender mejor el vocabulario o la estructura.

There's all kinds of research that shows that, you know, trying to block learn something, to nail something down, to listen to it over and over again, to read the same thing again, all of this is not very effective. Hay todo tipo de investigaciones que muestran que, ya sabes, tratar de bloquear el aprendizaje de algo, clavar algo, escucharlo una y otra vez, leer lo mismo otra vez, todo esto no es muy efectivo. And we are better off grazing, going off to something else and then coming back again and going away again and coming back again. Y estamos mejor pastando, yendo a otra cosa y luego volviendo otra vez y yendo otra vez y volviendo otra vez.

And that way we notice more things, we may forget certain things. Y así notamos más cosas, podemos olvidar ciertas cosas. We come back and we notice them again. 私たちは戻ってきて、彼らに再び気づきます。 We're more likely to retain them. それらを保持する可能性が高くなります。 So don't assume that repetition means, has to mean just sitting there and repeatedly listening to the same thing. Así que no asuma que la repetición significa, tiene que significar simplemente sentarse allí y escuchar repetidamente lo mismo. ですから、繰り返しが意味すると思い込まないでください。ただそこに座って同じことを繰り返し聞くことを意味する必要があります。 You may do some of that. Puedes hacer algo de eso. And I think it's very important that we are in charge of our own learning. Y creo que es muy importante que estemos a cargo de nuestro propio aprendizaje.

So do what you think is worthwhile. Uh, do what seems to work for you, what you enjoy doing, and you'll be more successful. Uh, haz lo que parece funcionar para ti, lo que te gusta hacer, y tendrás más éxito. So, uh, he has neglected his listening comprehension. That's very common. A lot of people neglect listening comprehension. Mucha gente descuida la comprensión auditiva. Uh, are there any strategies you have while listening? Well, the one strategy is so, someone asked perhaps on my Twitter, you know, if you don't understand something, but you really like the voice and you read it the whole mood of the thing grabs you, is it still worthwhile listening? Bueno, la única estrategia es así, alguien preguntó quizás en mi Twitter, ya sabes, si no entiendes algo, pero realmente te gusta la voz y la lees, todo el estado de ánimo te atrapa, ¿vale la pena escucharlo? ? Yes, it is. So that can be one strategy. Uh, I listened to these Chinese...  and I really didn't understand more than 40 or 50%, but it was captivating just by the rhythm and the voices.

It was like melody. I listened to in Japan, I listened to a show on the history of Japan, the Showa era. And again, I didn't understand more than 40 50%, but the voice, the excitement, these were nude, nude: news broadcasts from, you know, whatever Olympic games in 1960 or whatever it might be. Y de nuevo, no entendí más del 40 50%, pero la voz, la emoción, estaban desnudos, desnudos: transmisiones de noticias de, ya sabes, los Juegos Olímpicos de 1960 o lo que sea. And so again, there is value in that and there can be value in listening to, uh, as I say, repetitive listening. I find that if you don't understand, or if you don't have the means to eventually understand, that's less effective. Encuentro que si no entiendes, o si no tienes los medios para eventualmente entender, eso es menos efectivo.

So I will always want to have my transcripts. So in some cases, that means that I go to, uh, automatic transcription service, uh, and, and get that transcript, which may only be 90% accurate, but at least it gives me a chance. Entonces, en algunos casos, eso significa que voy al servicio de transcripción automática y obtengo esa transcripción, que puede tener solo un 90% de precisión, pero al menos me da una oportunidad. Otherwise, this there's always the same things that I don't understand. So, um, you know, I do some mini stories, which is a lot of repetition and at the same time, I go for more difficult material, but I try to always get the transcript.

But I didn't have the transcript for the... in Chinese, 50 years ago. And I didn't have the transcript for... in Japan, say 40 years ago and I still enjoyed learning them. And I think they helped me with my pronunciation. They help moving me forward in the language, but I, it's not like I understood zero.

I understood half let's say. Entendí la mitad digamos. So another thing he says, he gets frustrated. Okay. Here's a strategy for listening. Don't get frustrated. Okay. Learn to deal with uncertainty, vagueness, fog, you don't fully understand. If you're understanding even 30, 40% that 30, 40% is washing over your brain, it's helping you. Si estás entendiendo incluso 30, 40% que 30, 40% está invadiendo tu cerebro, te está ayudando. 30、40%が30、40%があなたの脳を洗い流していることを理解しているなら、それはあなたを助けています。

And meanwhile, you're alert to try and at least hear the other words that you don't know. Again, ideally, if you can get the transcript, you can then go in and look up those words. But again, even after having looked these words up and then when you listen again, good chance, you still want to understand, so learn to accept that that is part of the process. But then six months later, you will look back and you'll realize that you'll now understand so much more than you did six months earlier. Okay. So he also loses himself and he says... So yeah. When we're listening, we're not going to, there's no way we can be concentrating the whole time. Uh, we don't understand it all, at times we're focused, uh, even the second or third time we listened, we focus on certain structures maybe. Uh, but then we, the mind wanders and that's perfectly all right, because for the period of time that you are focused, for the period of time that you under, understanding things for the period of time that this sound in another language is meaning for you, meaningful communication in the language. ええと、でもそれなら私たち、心はさまよって、それは完全に大丈夫です。なぜなら、あなたが集中している間、あなたが下にいる間、別の言語でのこの音が意味している期間の間、物事を理解しているからです。あなたにとって、その言語での有意義なコミュニケーション。

You are learning, you are getting the brain used to the language. So frustration, it's a similar comment to the other person. Frustration is a bad thing. Avoid frustration, accept what the process is. 欲求不満を避け、プロセスが何であるかを受け入れます。 If you understood everything, you wouldn't need to learn the language. すべてを理解していれば、言語を学ぶ必要はありません。 Now. So, so synaptic solder adheres many things. したがって、シナプスはんだは多くのものを付着させます。

I mean, obviously this is this idea that the, uh, what, uh, you know, the neurons firing together. Uh, but I, I do insist that we also need to have some things that are interesting. You can overdo, uh, the repetition. Puedes exagerar, eh, la repetición. Uh, you've got to kind of mix in both. Uh, so, and these are things that we have to explore on our own.

We have to be in charge. I think if we are in charge, it's easier to focus. It's easier to be motivated. Uh, it's not like something is being pushed at you, so it's not like you should feel helpless or frustrated because you don't understand. ええと、何かがあなたに押し付けられているわけではないので、あなたが理解していないのであなたが無力または欲求不満を感じるべきではありません。 You chose to listen to that. Uh, you can choose to listen to easier stuff.

You can choose to listen to more difficult stuff where maybe you like the voice, but you don't understand as much. It's, it's, I think it's very important that in all of this, for any of these strategies, You've got to feel that you chose this strategy, you try different strategies, you found the one that works for you. つまり、これらすべてにおいて、これらの戦略のいずれについても、この戦略を選択したと感じ、さまざまな戦略を試し、自分に合った戦略を見つけたことが非常に重要だと思います。

You can listen to what I have to say, you can listen to what other people have to say, you choose a strategy that works for you. Puedes escuchar lo que tengo que decir, puedes escuchar lo que otras personas tienen que decir, eliges una estrategia que funcione para ti. あなたは私が言わなければならないことを聞くことができます、あなたは他の人々が言わなければならないことを聞くことができます、あなたはあなたのために働く戦略を選びます。 Believe in it. それを信じなさい。 Stay the course and you will improve. コースにとどまると、あなたは向上します。 Maybe I'll just leave it there and next time maybe I will organize these so I don't have to go through exactly picking out the questions that I should answer. たぶん私はそれをそのままにして、次回はこれらを整理するので、答えるべき質問を正確に選ぶ必要はありません。

And let me, let me know if you think this is useful, I could go back down through a longer list of questions and answer them here via video, rather than answering them by individually, um, you know, answering them in the comments section. Y avíseme, avíseme si cree que esto es útil, podría volver a revisar una lista más larga de preguntas y responderlas aquí a través de un video, en lugar de responderlas individualmente, eh, ya sabe, respondiéndolas en la sección de comentarios. . そして、これが役立つと思われる場合はお知らせください。コメントセクションで個別に回答するのではなく、質問の長いリストに戻って、ここでビデオで回答することができます。 。 Anyway uh, thank you for listening. I'll leave a few videos that might be relevant to this discussion.

Bye for now.