Stationsrestauraties in Nederland Bahnhofsrestaurants in den Niederlanden Station restaurants in the Netherlands オランダの駅レストラン Stoties restoranai Nyderlanduose Restauracje dworcowe w Holandii Restaurantes de estação nos Países Baixos Вокзальные рестораны в Нидерландах Hollanda'daki istasyon restoranları Вокзальні ресторани в Нідерландах

Hallo Fasulye, allereerst wil ik je natuurlijk een heel gelukkig nieuwjaar toewensen, en veel succes met al je talen die je aan het leren bent. Hello Fasulye, first of all I would like to wish you a very happy new year, and good luck with all your languages you are learning. Merhaba Fasulye, her şeyden önce size çok mutlu bir Yeni Yıl diliyorum ve öğrendiğiniz bütün dilleri iyi diliyorum.

Ja, leuk om je weer op Skype te ontmoeten Silvia, ik wens je ook een prettig nieuwjaar, en natuurlijk ook veel succes met de talenstudie, en ik heb het idee dat we vandaag maar eens over stationsrestauraties in Nederland kunnen spreken. Yes, nice to meet you again on Skype Silvia, I also wish you a pleasant New Year, and of course good luck with the language study, and I think we can talk about station restorations in the Netherlands today.

Ja, dat onderwerp had jij aangedragen, en ik vind het een heel grappig onderwerp, en we hebben van te voren niet besproken waarom jij over dat onderwerp wilt spreken, dus mijn eerste vraag is, waarom wil je over stationsrestauraties in Nederland praten? Yes, you had suggested that subject, and I think it is a very funny subject, and we have not discussed in advance why you want to talk about that subject, so my first question is, why do you want to talk about station restorations in the Netherlands? Evet, bu konuyu önerdin ve çok komik bir konu olduğunu düşünüyorum ve bu konu hakkında neden konuşmak istediğini önceden konuşmamıştık, bu yüzden ilk sorum şu: Hollanda'daki istasyon restorasyonları hakkında neden konuşmak istiyorsun?

Natuurlijk omdat stationsrestauraties in Nederland voor mij heel belangrijk waren, omdat ik iemand ben die door Nederland met de trein reist, dus ik heb geen auto, en als ik in Nederland ben dan kom ik daar per trein, en ik heb daar ook overstaptijden in, op Nederlandse stations, en ik gebruikte eigenlijk de stationsrestauraties om daar mijn tijd door te brengen, om op de andere trein te wachten. Of course because station restorations in the Netherlands were very important to me, because I am someone traveling by train in the Netherlands, so I don't have a car, and when I'm in the Netherlands I get there by train, and I also have transfer times, at Dutch stations, and I actually used the station restorations to spend my time there, waiting for the other train. Tabii ki, Hollanda'daki istasyon restorasyonları benim için çok önemliydi, çünkü ben Hollanda'dan trenle seyahat eden biriyim, bu yüzden bir arabam yok ve Hollanda'dayken trenle oraya gidiyorum ve ayrıca transfer zamanlarım var. Hollanda istasyonlarında ve ben orada zamanımı geçirmek için başka bir tren beklerken istasyon restorasyonlarını kullandım.

Dus niet zo zeer om te eten, maar om even een kopje koffie te drinken? So not so much to eat, but to drink a cup of coffee? Yani yemek için değil, bir fincan kahve içmek için çok mu?

Ja, meestal was dat een kopje thee, maar om daar gewoon gezellig te zitten, met een leuke muziek in de achtergrond, en ik kon daar ook wat schrijven, en ik kon me bezig houden, en het was niet saai, en, maar niet om daar grote maaltijden te eten. Yes, most of the time it was a cup of tea, but just to sit there, with nice music in the background, and I could write something there, and I could keep myself busy, and it wasn't boring, and, but not to eat big meals there. Evet, genellikle bu bir fincan çaydı, ama sadece güzel bir fon müziği ile orada oturmak için orada bir şeyler yazabilirdim ve kendimi meşgul edebilirdim ve sıkıcı değildi, ama orada büyük yemekler yemek.

Ok, en je komt dus al vele en vele jaren in die stationsrestauraties neem ik dan aan? Ok, and so you have been coming to those station restorations for many and many years, I assume? Pekala, ve bu istasyon restorasyonlarında uzun yıllar boyunca bulundun mu, sonra kabul ediyorum?

Ja, daar moet ik iets meer over vertellen, want ik had met twee stationsrestauraties van doen, dat was de stationsrestauratie in Venlo, dat is de grensstad, op Nederlands gebied, en de stationsrestauratie in Zwolle, en in Venlo moest, moet ik nog steeds altijd overstappen op de trein naar Duitsland, en daar is vaak een overstaptijd van drie minuten, en dat red ik soms niet, dus ben ik vroeger naar de stationsrestauratie gegaan, maar die is in Venlo sinds 2009 (tweeduizendnegen) is die opgeheven. Ja, dazu muss ich ein bisschen mehr erzählen, weil ich hatte mit zwei Bahnhofsrestaurants zu tun, das war das Bahnhofsrestaurant in Venlo, das ist die Grenzstadt, im holländischen Bereich, und das Bahnhofsrestaurant in Zwolle, und in Venlo musste ich, muss ich immer noch umsteigen nach Deutschland, und da ist oft eine dreiminütige Umsteigezeit, und das schaffe ich manchmal nicht, also bin ich immer in das Bahnhofsrestaurant gegangen, aber das in Venlo ist seit 2009 (zweitausendneun) eingestellt worden. Yes, I have to tell something more about that, because I had to deal with two station restorations, that was the station restoration in Venlo, that is the border town, in the Dutch area, and the station restoration in Zwolle, and in Venlo, I still had to always transferring to the train to Germany, and there is often a transfer time of three minutes, and I sometimes can't save that, so I used to go to the station restoration, but it has been canceled in Venlo since 2009 (two thousand and nine). Evet, bunun hakkında daha fazla bir şey söylemek zorundayım, çünkü iki istasyonlu restorasyonlarla ilgili yapmak zorunda kaldım, burası Venlo'daki istasyon restorasyonu, Hollanda'daki sınır kasabası, Zwolle'deki istasyon restorasyonu ve Venlo'da hala Almanya'ya giden trene her zaman geçiyoruz, ve genellikle üç dakikalık bir transfer süresi var, ve bazen yapmıyorum, bu yüzden istasyonun restorasyonuna gittim, ama 2009'dan beri Venlo'da (iki bin dokuz) kaldı.

Oh, dat is jammer, en is er niets voor in de plaats gekomen? Oh, that's a shame, and has nothing replaced it? Oh, bu utanç verici ve onun yerine hiçbir şey gelmedi mi?

Ja, daar is zo'n, zeg maar zo'n friettent in de plaats gekomen, waar je kunt staan, en een bakje friet eten, maar dat heeft natuurlijk met het comfort, en met de gezelligheid van een ... Yes, there is such a, let's say, a fries tent replaced, where you can stand and eat a bowl of fries, but that has of course the comfort, and the coziness of a ...

Je kunt niet meer zitten dus? You can no longer sit so? Você não pode mais sentar-se assim?

Nee, helemaal niet, je kunt daar staan en even een snel hapje eten, maar dat is voor mij helemaal niet de bedoeling geweest. No, not at all, you can stand there and have a quick bite to eat, but that was not the intention at all for me. Hayır, hiç de değil, orada durabilirsin ve yemek için çabuk ısırırsın, ama bu benim için niyetim olmadı.

Ja, dat is inderdaad jammer, ik vraag me dus eigenlijk af waarom die stationsrestauratie dan gesloten is, denk je dat het komt omdat er te weinig mensen gebruik van maakten? Yes, that is a pity indeed, so I actually wonder why the station restoration is closed, do you think it is because too few people used it? Evet, bu gerçekten üzücü, bu yüzden istasyon restorasyonunun neden kapatıldığını merak ediyorum, bunun çok az insanın kullandığı için olduğunu mu düşünüyorsun?

Die indruk heb ik eigenlijk nooit gehad, want die waren altijd goed bezocht, en ik heb ook met de stationsrestauratie in Zwolle te maken gehad, want toen ik naar de Esperanto weekenden ben gereisd, ben ik daar met mijn Nederlandse vriend geweest, toen moesten we in Zwolle overstappen, en dan hebben we daar nog een etenspauze gemaakt, van een uurtje of zo. I never really had that impression, because they were always well attended, and I also had to deal with the station restoration in Zwolle, because when I traveled to the Esperanto weekends, I went there with my Dutch friend, then we had to transfer to Zwolle, and then we have a dinner break there, lasting an hour or so. Bu izlenimi hiç almadım, çünkü her zaman iyi bir şekilde katıldılar ve Zwolle'deki istasyon restorasyonu ile uğraşmak zorunda kaldım, çünkü Esperanto hafta sonlarına gittiğimde, Hollandalı arkadaşımla oraya gittim, sonra Zwolle'de ve sonra bir öğle yemeği molası, bir saat ya da öylesine. En ook in Zwollen is sinds 2011 (tweeduizendelf) de stationsrestauratie helaas ook opgeheven. And also in Zwollen, since 2011 (two thousand and eleven), the station restoration has unfortunately also been canceled. Ayrıca Zwollen'de de istasyon restorasyonu maalesef 2011'den beri iki bini aştı.

Oh, nou dat vind ik heel erg jammer, ik heb er zelf eigenlijk niet zo opgelet de laatste jaren dat ik met de trein gereisd heb, want ik moet zeggen van, ik ken de stationsrestauraties vooral uit de tijd dat ik met mijn ouders af en toe daar ging eten, want het was een relatief goedkope plek om iets simpels te eten, mijn ouders vonden het wel leuk om tijdens de vakanties een keertje ergens buiten de deur te eten, maar om niet zo heel veel geld uit te geven, dus op stationsrestauraties kon je simpele maaltijden bestellen, die dan gewoon op een papieren placemat werden geserveerd, gewoon simpele gerechten, en de sfeer was inderdaad altijd heel aardig, en ik moet zeggen, wij gingen in het begin altijd in het niet-rokers gedeelte zitten, want gelukkig is tegenwoordig alles rookvrij, maar vroeger was dat niet het geval, dus het was heel vervelend om in een restaurant of een café iets te gaan eten of drinken en dan in de rook te moeten zitten. Oh, well, I think that's a great pity, I haven't actually paid much attention to it in recent years that I've traveled by train, because I have to say, I know the station restorations mainly from the time I finished with my parents and went there to eat, because it was a relatively cheap place to eat something simple, my parents liked it sometime during the holidays to eat somewhere outside the door, but not to spend so much money, so on station restorations you could order simple meals, which were then simply served on a paper place mat, simply simple dishes, and the atmosphere was indeed always very nice, and I must say, we always sat in the non-smoking area in the beginning, because Luckily everything is smoke-free these days, but in the past that was not the case, so it was very annoying to go eat or drink something in a restaurant or a cafe and then have to sit in the smoke.

Ja, ja, ja, ik ben ook niet-roker, dus dat was voor mij natuurlijk ook belangrijk als ik in een restaurant ben dat ik niet door rook lastiggevallen wordt. Yes, yes, yes, I am also a non-smoker, so that was of course also important for me when I am in a restaurant that I am not bothered by smoke. Evet, evet, evet, ben de sigara içmeyen biriyim, bu yüzden ben de duman tarafından rahatsız değilim bir restoranda olduğumda, benim için de önemliydi.

Dat is je vroeger nooit opgevallen dat het rook, dat je in het niet-rook gedeelte moet gaan zitten? You never noticed in the past that it smokes, that you have to sit in the non-smoking section? Geçmişte, sigara içilmeyen bölümde oturmak zorunda olduğunun koktuğunu hiç fark etmediniz mi?

Ik weet het niet meer zo goed, ik kan, dat is nu ook een paar jaar geleden dat ik daar voor het laatst kon zitten, maar ik heb ook altijd de neiging gehad ergens om dan werkelijk bij de niet-rokers te zitten want ik hou ook niet van rook die om me heen waait. I do not know so well anymore, I can, that is now also a few years ago that I was able to sit there for the last time, but I also always had the tendency to actually sit somewhere with the non-smokers because I love not even smoke that blows around me. Çok iyi bilmiyorum, şimdi yapabilirim, bu da birkaç sene önce orada son kez oturabileceğimi, ama sigara içmeyenlerle bir yerlerde olmak için her zaman bir eğilimim oldu. ne de etrafımdaki duman.

Ja, dat is dan erg jammer dat de stationsrestauraties inderdaad een groot gedeelte gesloten zijn, ik ken die stationsrestauraties van jou niet, want ik reisde meer in het westen van het land rond, Utrecht, Rotterdam en Amsterdam, en als ik overstapte dan ging ik zelf nooit zo zeer een kopje koffie drinken, dan wachtte ik gewoon wel op de bank op het perron, maar het viel me bijvoorbeeld op toen we met de familie inderdaad een keer in Rotterdam moesten wachten, dat het een beetje armoedig is om te wachten, want je hebt alleen maar de vette hap restauranten inderdaad waar je een patat kan kopen en een kroket en dat soort dingen, en er is inderdaad niet echt een fijne plek waar je een beetje op een frisse manier rustig iets kan drinken. Yes, that is a great pity that the station restorations are indeed largely closed, I do not know those station restorations of yours, because I traveled more in the west of the country, Utrecht, Rotterdam and Amsterdam, and if I switched I would go never drink a cup of coffee myself so much, then I just waited on the bench on the platform, but I noticed, for example, when we indeed had to wait with the family once in Rotterdam, that it is a bit poor to wait, because you only have the great bite restaurants indeed where you can buy a fries and a croquette and things like that, and there is indeed not really a nice place where you can drink something in a fresh way. Evet, istasyon restorasyonlarının büyük bir kısmı kapalı olduğu için bu çok talihsiz bir durum, sizin istasyon restorasyonlarını bilmiyorum, çünkü ülkenin batısında, Utrecht, Rotterdam ve Amsterdam'da daha fazla seyahat ettim ve eğer değiştirdiysem o zaman gittim. Asla bir fincan kahve içmeyin, daha sonra platformdaki koltukta bekledim, ama örneğin, Rotterdam'da aile ile birlikte beklemek zorunda kaldığımızı fark ettim; çünkü sadece patates kızartması ve bir kroket ve bunun gibi şeyler satın alabilirsiniz gerçekten gerçekten yağlı lokma restoran var ve gerçekten orada ferahlatıcı bir şekilde taze bir şeyler içebilirsiniz gerçekten güzel bir yer değil.

Ik doe het in Venlo nu zo, want daar is een hotel in de buurt, en als ik een één uur wachttijd heb in Venlo, wat te vaker voor komt, dan ga ik naar het hotel, en ga daar maar iets drinken, en dan kan ik ook gelijk naar de wc gaan, dat is dan reuze handig. I do it like this in Venlo now, because there is a hotel nearby, and if I have a one-hour wait in Venlo, which happens too often, then I go to the hotel, and have a drink there, and then I can also go to the toilet right away, that's really handy.

Oh, ja dat is fijn ja, want op een trein naar de wc gaan is nooit zo fijn natuurlijk. Oh, yes that's nice yes, because going on a train to the toilet is never that nice of course. Evet, evet, çünkü tuvalete giden bir trene binmek elbette çok güzel değil.

Dat klopt. That's right.

Ok, Fasulye, dan denk ik dat we dit onderwerp genoeg besproken hebben, en dan hebben de luisteraars iets meer gehoord over een toch wat oudere traditie in Nederland die door veel mensen gebruikt werd maar misschien toch niet genoeg, zodat ze gesloten zijn, en dan wens ik je een fijne week toe, en dan tot een volgende keer. Okay, Fasulye, I think we have discussed this subject enough, and then the listeners have heard a little more about a somewhat older tradition in the Netherlands that was used by many people but perhaps not enough, so that they are closed, and then I wish you a nice week, and then until next time. Tamam, Fasulye, o zaman bu konuyu yeterince konuştuğumuzu ve daha sonra dinleyicilerin Hollanda'da biraz daha eski bir gelenek hakkında daha çok şey duyduklarını, ancak birçok insan tarafından kullanıldığını, ancak belki de yeterli olmadığını, bu yüzden kapalı olduklarını ve sonra Size güzel bir hafta diliyorum, ve bir dahaki sefere kadar.

Ja, bedankt voor het gesprek Silvia, en graag tot een volgende keer. Yes, thanks for the conversation Silvia, and see you next time. Evet, görüştüğünüz için teşekkürler Silvia, ve bir dahaki sefere görüşmek istiyorum.