Could someone translate for me the song Я с тобой by Звери for me? I found a translation here: Zveri - Я с тобой (Ya S Toboi) lyrics + English translation but the translation didn’t make much sense in English. Nor does google translate. Thanks to anyone who can either produce a new one or amend the one in the link.
That translation looks good to me.
To me it doesn’t. “Everyone admire” and "Everythings not the matter don’t quite make sense.
The translation has several errors, but you can get the overall meaning. What you want else? Translating Lyrics is not an easy thing. The English speaker, who has a profound knowledge of Russian, says that the translation is quite accurate, and you, who are a beginner in Russian, disagree… You think you know Russian better than Daniel? This translation is enough to understand. If you have some questions, ask. If you can’t understand a word of this song, perhaps it is better to find easier content and return to this song later.
@PocuHka - I don’t think you understand what I mean. In no way am I saying I am an expert in Russian. Nor did I translate the song. I found the translation and am studying it. I’m not even asking for people to translate it fully, just to revise the translation for me. As I am a beginner, I can’t do that. What I do know however, is that the English version of the translation isn’t too good. It has a few mistakes. This is why I am asking someone to revise t for me. I am asking questions, just like you said I should. Really, I don’t understand why you are complaining about my request. Finally, why should I find different content? If I constantly study at my level, I never improve.
Where I said that you should study Beginner content?
WHen I started to learn Japanese, I had a lot of questions about Japanese songs. But I did not asked them. I just go on. And now, when in a year I returned to that songs, I don’t have any questions.
And as a native, I say — the translation is quite normal. Yes, it is word-to-word translation, but in fact it gives you the exact structure, as Russian use.
“Everything’s not the matter” — Russians say ‘Nothing matters’ this way.
I repeat one more time: if you have questions, ask the,. The general question sound like ‘I don’t understand it at all’ and/or ‘I don’t bother to try to understand it’.
"If you can’t understand a word of this song, perhaps it is better to find easier content and return to this song later. "
where in this sentence you find “study at your level”? I suggested you to find easier content than this song.
And you asked to TRANSLATE it, you haven’t asked to revise it. Just read the first sentence of the first post
“Could someone translate for me the song”.
Okay, okay, okay. First, you said , “perhaps it is better to find easier content”. This implies that you mean I should find content at my level. It sounds like you are saying I shouldn’t be studying above my level.Secondly, I suggest you read the WHOLE first paragraph. It clearly says, “… or amend the one in the link”.
Anyway, here are my specific problems:
- Everything’s no matter
- Everything for you, only for you
- Morning, sun, coffee and now everything is being decided.
- We walk in the city, everyone admire!
Oh, yeah, the last two word change everything. Why I should read the whole your post, if you don’t bother to read the whole my post?
I suggested to you to be a more active learner. ot passive. Do not rely on others. But you read it as “read only beginner I content”.
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Everything’s no matter
I have already explained this. It is “nothing matters” -
Everything for you, only for you
It is “everything is for you / Everything will be done for you” -
Morning, sun, coffee and now everything is being decided.
It is exactly what is said in the Russian variant.
It is a song after all! -
We walk in the city, everyone admire!
‘We walk in the city, everyone [looks on us and] admire’
And I find the thought that all content, that is easier than this song, is Beginner I, quite offensive. You think that there are only two levels in Russian?
I still can’t understand how it was possible to read “If you can’t understand a word of this song, perhaps it is better to find easier content and return to this song later”, as “use Beginner I content”…
Thanks for the translation, but now you are starting to become a bit rude. I’m trying to be nice so there is no need for sarcasm or general assumptions.
You’ve got nothing to suggest that I haven’t read all of your posts in their entirety.
You said I should be “a more active learner, not passive”. So tell me, please, is seeking out translations to songs and then attempting to memorise them active or passive? I call it active. I am deliberately using my time, to analyse a song and get vocabulary and a good understanding of the grammar used.
“Do not rely on others” Why should I not ask questions. You clearly told me in your reply to my original post to ask questions. Now you are just contradicting yourself. Also, in language learning, people should help each other all the time. You wouldn’t be here if it wasn’t for Steve and Mark Kaufmann deciding to create a platform to help learners.
"You think that there are only two levels in Russian? " When did I ever say this? I never recall that. I never remember saying that I am a beginner, and that this song is the most advanced thing I can ever come across, that there is no other type of learning material. I never even recall saying I am “beginner one”. All I remember is that I said I am a beginner, that I should use all types of material and that I don’t like working with content at my level as I don’t feel I advance quickly enough.
Please, if there are any other generalisations you wish to make or things you don’t understand, feel free to post them below.
PocuHka, I think James is asking things politely, and his request is quite reasonable.
I myself ask things sometimes in the forum.
- Why should I be polite with lingqers, remembering how rude they were with me?
- I have not said you should not ask questions. I said, that writing ‘help me understand the song’ is like ‘I don’t bother even to try to understand it’. Because when somebody tries to do something, he has a list of questions/points that he does not understand. I have been tutoring Russian for quite a long period, and I know that if a student does not have a question, it really is better do not to explain things to him. Because he will not remember it. He has not noticed this by himself. All explanations will be just for nothing.
I have asked here a lot of things. And the last thing that I asked here was a scream “Help me”.
And nobody helped.
- When were they rude to you? This is the first post you’ve commented on.
- You said “do not rely on others”, meaning “don’t ask questions”. All I asked for was somebody to refine a translation. It wasn’t too much to ask. I needed help, so I relied on others, asked for help and then recieved it.
I don’t quite understand "I have asked here a lot of things. And the last thing that I asked here was a scream “Help me”.
And nobody helped. "
“2) You said “do not rely on others”, meaning “don’t ask questions”” When I said that, I mean one of the ways to rely on others is to ask questions.
- When were they rude to you? This is the first post you’ve commented on.
Really? You believe that I am from Syria? Do you learn Russian after all? Read my nickname carefully, please.
Welcome back PocuHka!