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Seeking advice from someone/s experienced in the process of learning languages 'different from what you already know.' Ideally someone who has learned multiple languages at once.

January 08 em 21:23

tl;dr) For a language with a totally different "alphabet", someone starting lingq as a a beginner, can, after that initial novelty phase which I think is fun, break through into the level in which the daily lingqing is actually kind of readable so that it is helpful and is not a waste of time. Has anyone does this? Has Steven done this?

Can one take his or her self from zero to hero using mainly just lingq for a language with a different phonetic system?

I thought I figured out how to do it, honestly. Anytime I wasn't making any ground learning, I took it upon myself, on the side to study the Russian alphabet, the Japanese syllabaries, the Korean whatever it's called (also the Arabic and Greek systems for a little bit but I dropped those) by writing them out, "write me" Apps, with dedicated study.

Later, I supplemented with other beginner apps that took you through words and phrases a little slower or with more repetition. Mondly, Lingqvist(has Russian) Duolingo, Memrise (for some reason Memrise seems oddly good for korean). The thing is, I actually did get there, I learned the systems and I can actually sound out and if not read, at least understand why a word is spelled a certain way in Russian and Japanese and Korean to a lesser extent (I already know Kanji from Chinese btw), and it was actually really really fun to be able to jump around and do all those languages at once.

But it dawned on me that learning the system of writing does not mean you can actually read, not even close, not for me at least. It's too slow and unreliable, so what do you do? How does one get past this know the alphabet but not how to read phase? Are we actually sounding out words or do we just memorize how words look on the whole? Do you rote memorize a bunch of vocabulary and then you can start reading stories? Do you need to find even simpler reading material?

So yeah, that's it, I have streaks of 130 days in all these languages but I don't really feel like LingQ reading is really helping me improve that much, despite my basic ability in the writing systems and time following along with sentences. I concede, reading a totally different phonetic system is just a strange thing, my brain and I have never gone through it before haha

Thanks for your reading and thanks in advance, for your suggestions and feedback and sharing.


Hilariously: Usually now to get my streaks, I just sit there making semi bogus phrases all over the same sentences so that I can linger over the same words and spelling.

To self: Should I take a break from lingQ? I don't want to stop and lose motivation for good. Should I do 'extensive reading' part of the time, and just really struggle hard? I'm not good enough at the phonetic systems and the vocabulary to really master anything. I remember Steve Kauffman saying that the new writing systems were actually one of the biggest pain in the ass things for him. I see it now.

For back-ground I have been doing a fairly unusual experiment for the last 5 months or so; I heard Luca Lampariello say that the most important thing was to put in a little time every day, at least say 5 ideally dedicated minutes, and then to sleep on it and do it again the next day, because sleeping is when our brains learn. For the most part this experiment has been fascinately and gone extremely well. I started out doing 15 to 20 languages with the minimum goal, I got to hear and see a little bit of all these languages and 13 words a day is super easy at the beginning because literally every single word is new and you blow right through it.

I have gradually dropped and changed languages based on what my brain tells me in terms of interest, motivation, and being overwhelmed


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