Any news on Vietnamese mini stories?
@zoran did you ban me from being able to post from dellatsne because I can't post after posting that 😂
@ No, there's no any ban on your account. What happens when you try to post from it?
I hit "post comment" and nothing happens.
I would also like to see Vietnamese here on LingQ. At the moment I can bridge the time by learning Turkish...
The day vietnamese gets added, i will cry tears of joy.
Mình đang khóc hai năm rồi về cái này đến mức mình có thể nói được tiếng Việt không có giúp của LingQ.
Mình có thể nói tiếng Việt nhưng chưa giỏi, nói cơ sở mà muốn đọc truyện như Cô Gái từ đến hôm qua - Nguyễn Nhật Ánh và quyển như vậy.. cũng đọc tín tức, Wikipedia, etc.
Nội dụng yếu thích nhất của mình là nhạc của rapper Đen Vâu :)
Hay quá. Cảm ơn cho giới thiệu mình với MCK. Mình không thể quên Hoàng Thuỳ Linh bởi vì em ấy cũng rất là tuyệt vời. 🤩
I too still want to see Vietnamese on here. That would be super cool.
Really need Vietnamese!
Just here to poke about Vietnamese lol Hopefully it'll be added soon! I want to practice with my husband and in-laws.
Many of us also want to study Vietnamese :)
Hey guys, I'm working with some Vietnamese people to get Mini Stories re-recorded. I lived in Vietnam for 3 years and also want to get Vietnamese up on LingQ. Please be patient :)
Yay! That's exciting. So happy to hear 🥰
That is good to hear, is there any time frame for this? I am learning Vietnamese currently and would love to be able to use LingQ for it as it has helped a lot in other languages I've learned.
I think we'll need to find more volunteers to record the stories. Because the person I found is having trouble finding a place to record quality audio. The big cities in Vietnam are very loud.
Maybe relying on volunteers is the issue. I'm pretty sure I could get someone in Hanoi to record them in a quiet place for a nominal rate.
I'd be willing to donate toward this cause. Anyone else want to set up a fund?
I would also be happy to donate to this. I feel if lingq would give more information about progress of different languages, people in the community would be able to do more to help get languages added quicker. Such as donating money for recordings/translations or finding volunteers.
I'm also willing to donate for recording vietnamese mini stories
I absolutely would not donate towards this. Somebody has already gone to huge efforts to get the stories translated and recorded, only for them now to be deemed not good enough. The system for getting new languages set up here is just not transparent enough for me to spend any additional money on.
I was thinking the same thing! I'd donate to this since we as users have been waiting for *checks watch* literal years for this to be added. I'd happily pay someone for their time and efforts. Just wondering the best way to go about it.
Why do they have to be re-recorded?Zoran at LingQ sent them to me back on June 2, 2021
We need them in better quality.
This is not good enough quality? This is Story 1 that you sent me a year ago. Maybe you can survey the learners on LingQ and see if they find it to be tolerable enough or not. This is very clear for me to understand and follows the script very clearly. I don't think it will be difficult for others to use it. It is comparable to what I find in Vietnamese textbooks.
Do you mean you want it to be consistently the same accent from one audio recording to the next, or do you mean that you want higher quality microphones...?
Most of us are listening to recordings from textbooks like this or similar. In addition, some of us are using Youtube videos to learn from, which often do not use audio quality that is higher than this. Often, it's much worse! If you compare it to other Vietnamese videos on Youtube, it is very comparable or better. Here are some examples:
https://youtu.be/g9CgpowuOjU (TV channel)
https://youtu.be/Py-kThk1C0w (Paris by Night, a very popular Vietnamese show recorded usually in USA)
https://youtu.be/g2dcD1ePZ9c (Government-funded news. Audio quality is similar to attached)
https://youtu.be/C4cxURFhxuY (Popular Rap show in Vietnamese)
https://youtu.be/vHPYImlP0Sk (Popular cooking channel in Vietnamese)
I don't think that anyone who is asking for Vietnamese and who is used to the Vietnamese media available will find disappointment in the previously recorded audio tracks, such as the one attached. I hope you will reconsider this. You can always upload it/add it to the site and then update it later on. It's better to have something rather than nothing.
I could understand everything and would have been so happy to have something this quality when I started learning Vietnamese 2 years and 5 days ago. Re-recording them later would have been fine.
@GinaNYC I heard something similar happened to the Swahili language. I hope that LingQ reconsiders delaying release of languages. Language learning is never going to be perfect, and a good chunk of new subscribers would come if their target language was available on LingQ.
I don’t understand a word of Vietnamese but it sounds quite clear to me. Much better than many of the mini stories already available in other languages.
Could be that we don't need to re-record all 60 stories. Our content managers have correct information and Librarians working on it with them know what stories needs to be re-recorded.
@zoran I tried to email Sahra, but didn't get a response yet.
I agree, I'd be interested to hear what a "bad quality" recording sounds like. It's a shame there's this potentially useful content there that just isn't available yet on the site.
If its the hard "S" sounds that are the problem, i think that can be partly helped by an audio editor, even.
I was looking to study Vietnamese on lingq when all the new languages are added with 5.0. Comments below say all 60 stories are ready however, in one of Steve's recent videos he said there are only 25 ready. Does anyone know why this is and if we can expect to see Vietnamese in the near future?
@tavisoreilly We do have all 60 stories in Vietnamese, thanks to @tuzogep. :)
Not sure at the moment when exactly Vietnamese will be added..
That's good to know. I was a bit confused after Steve's latest video when he listed which languages had all of the mini-stories.
Still really looking forward to this
Can we expect to see it before spring?
Not sure yet, sorry.
Which new languages are being added and what is 5.0? How can we see the new languages?
A few languages are on the waiting list, but we'll talk more about it once when we actually get back to adding new languages.
LingQ 5.0 is new web/app version of LingQ that will be released very soon.
I remember that Mark said that in LingQ 5.0 it would be more transparent to the users the status about the Languages in Alpha. I hope that you guys are thinking on having a website endpoint with Coming Languages listed and what are the requirements lacking, then it would increase community awareness on how to help "LingQ Librarians" to meet all the requirements.
Great point! I think the problem is not the working speed at LingQ (they should take the time necessary for the things they want to do) but the communication with the paying community. Make a clear feasible plan and then tell your users when exactly you will release 5.0 on the different platforms and when new languages will be released. The "Coming Languages / Incubator" site is a great idea!
I've been waiting for the Vietnamese stories and checking back here occasionally since I started learning in June 2020. I'm almost to B2 already, so I guess I don't even need them any more 🤷♀️
Unfortunately we had some difficulty sourcing high-quality Vietnamese Mini Stories. Since we don't want to start a new language unless we are confident our users will benefit from them, we delayed the rollout of that language a bit. We are doing our best to bring it to Beta - If you know someone who could help us with that, we would absolutely be glad to speak with them!
Thanks for the reply. There are several posts from more than a year ago saying you had enough stories to launch Vietnamese, and if I had known before now, I would have been happy to spend some of my own money to commission my Vietnamese teachers' company to submit some stories. Now that I'm kind of past the point where they would be helpful for me, I'm not inclined to spend my own money on it. If LingQ wants to pay for good quality content, please feel free to reach out to YourVietnameseTutor.com. You can tell them I sent you :)
Just to add some info about YourVietnameseTutor.com: Quyên, the founder, was Moses McCormick’s Vietnamese teacher for 2 years, and appears with him and almost a dozen of his other teachers in a livestream shortly before he passed. She is speaking at this year’s Women in Language conference and is also a university professor, in addition to running her company, and released both a pronunciation course and an intermediate listening course that started as a podcast (available everywhere). She posts on all social media under YourVietnameseTutor (YouTube, Instagram, TikTok) including a recent series of Slow, Short Stories in Vietnamese. The teachers that work for her are excellent as well. I may be biased, but I don’t think there is anyone else creating as much high-quality Northern Vietnamese learning content as she is right now.
I've just sent the last stories and recordings (46-60) to Zoran. From this perspective, everything is ready to have Vietnamese (northern) on Duolingo, but as far as I know, it will only come after the new platform of LingQ is done. And that will be... no one knows when.
Any Vietnamese news :(
@MarkE 25 stories translated and recorded so far. However we won't be adding new languages before we launch site update. Hopefully in June the new version will be up and we will continue.
How does the development work usually? After how many mini stories do you start to develop the language on the site, or what milestone do you need to reach, in order to add the language to the "beta" section?
I'm trying to gather some help in translating the stories to Vietnamese, but I also like to know, that after this is done, how long do I need to wait until I can finally learn with them on LingQ?
This is a similar question I had for Georgian (the mini stories are ready...I think it’s been more than 2 month but the developers have not yet decided when to put them onto the site) I guess there is more work involved than one imagines.
@tuzogep We need at least 40 Mini Stories before we can add a language. So far 20 stories are delivered in Vietnamese but some volunteers are working on more so we should hopefully have enough soon.
At the moment we are working on our major site/apps update (LingQ 5.0 version) which takes most of our time. Once when we release this major update, we will start adding new languages again.
No, sorry. Nothing in Vietnamese so far.
I know that you here this a lot Zoran, for every language... but I would LOVE to study Vietnamese on lingq with the mini stories,
I'll do my best to make your wishes come true as soon as possible, guys. I promise.
you are amazing!