I currently use reverso whenever I encounter a new verb or an existing form of a verb. First, I add the Infinitive definition in the notes and then the subject-conjugation in the main definition area.
As straightforward as this is, I’m finding it very easy to forget the subject relation and am constantly having to refer back to reverso and my definitions to remind myself, even when reading in context.
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which was mentioned in a thread a few years ago here on LingQ; is a great tool for practicing specific verb conjugations in context, however the example sentences are very limited, seemingly repeating the same ones over for a specific verb infinitive.
I am open to any practices/methods, software or other that I can use/do to practice this very large area of the language. My goal is to practice conjugating 1 verb at a time after my listening and reading sessions on LingQ to reinforce it. (seems logical, but might not be the best way?)
I feel it necessary to do this as I believe that the quality in which someone retains this kind of information is reinforced by the quantity in which it occurs.
You can try some “conjugation games” such as these: http://france.catsfamily.net/main/sub.php?rub=JL3
I do something similar to drill Japanese kanas (“alphabets”). However, I have learned all my conjugations/declensions in different languages, including French, by reading, paying attention to each form I encounter and going back from time to time to reviewing the different tables. Again and again, that’s the only method that really works, at least for me. If your Lingq level is accurate, you still have a very long way to go to learn the language, it is normal that you struggle with many aspects of it (not only conjugations). It’ll become clearer over time.
I agree completely; certain things I can see come together with time with practice. There is so much cross referencing going on. Alot of the time seems to be managing what is most applicable in the current situation.
Yes, I think typing them out is better for memory. Writing is silent speaking and engages the speech centres of the brain, or at least that’s the theory. Eventually you will have to be able to conjugate super quickly anyway.
I am the creator of the mentioned website (https://www.linguno.com). Although it only came out in June, so I am not sure which thread you referred to in your post.
I was surprised at your comment because the point of the conjugation practice tool is to see verb forms in many different contexts. I checked the top 1000 verb forms practiced, and they had an average of 7 different sentences shown (ranging between 5 and 25 for most of them).
The site is still in beta phase, and I plan to make a lot of improvements in the coming months, so this should be even higher in the future. But I would appreciate it if you got in touch so that I can understand why you didn’t get more sentences for the verb forms you were practicing. Maybe it’s something that I can easily fix. I want it to become the best conjugation practice tool out there, so I’m eager to find any shortcomings.
I have tried linguno again and it is a bit more varied than I had first thought. I think I was just expecting more with very specific filters, i.e. one verb, one tense and irregular/regular and so on.
The number 5-25 seems accurate overall; as I have tried a single verb multiple times. That being said, I think the issue is that it repeats a certain amount of those within a single practice session. I think having customizable question amounts would be a good addition to the conjugation exercises menu as it would allow me to encounter more of that average number within a single session, as opposed to starting a new one just to find new sentences.
Also, how exactly are those sentences implemented into this program?; do you enter them yourself or is there some kind of algorithm that manages it? (not great with this sort of stuff :/)
Anyway, this is a very good website to practice with and I can see myself using it more and more in time.
P.S. The thread I was referring was the one linked below; for the older version, but I have being using the new one;
I will try to tweak the algorithm to make sure the sentence selection for a given verb form takes into account the ones you just had. I will have more time for it next week.
If you make a mistake, you always get back the verb form with the same sentence the very next time (and at the end of the session). I will think about changing that too.
The sentences and translations are all from tatoeba.org. I have an algorithm and context-based rules and stuff like that to find occurrences of verb forms in sentences. There are some verb forms where I had to manually select the sentences, but it’s mostly automatic.
I agree. Memorizing conjugation tables is very tiring for the brain and doesn’t do you much good when you’re reading or speaking. The tables can be very valuable as resources, of course, but in general, it’s all about reading, reading, reading.
Yes, I am beginning to see this more now. It is a nice thought to work on a specific word in context; I think my concern was that I wouldn’t encounter moderately common words enough to reinforce them, but as you said it’s all about reading (and listening with it.)