I have been wondering the same thing lately. It seems that a lot of people who have 30K-40K known words on LingQ already had prior experience with the language. I figure this by looking at their stats and see that their "LingQs learned" number is much lower than their known word count. Im curious to hear if anyone used to lingQ from scratch to fluency as well.
Important to note, for example russian is heavily inflected and tons of words sound similar to words in english, sometimes i see a diferent version of a word i previously lingqed and learnt, and mark it "learned" straight away, which may increase the known counter more than lingqs learned counter.August 13 alle 10:05
Well you can't be sure just by checking their known words compared to their LingQs learned. I almost never use the flashcards system and I'm always reluctant to manually move a word from LingQs to known words so I have a very low learned LingQs number. I imagine there are other people like me out there.
LingQ has definitely helped me understand more(currently at 19000 known words), but I've still got a long way to go.August 18 alle 16:52
I thought "near native level" fluency was ~10K words? I don't understand how you would still have a "long way to go" if you have almost doubled the average fluency number.
This is my first time learning a new language so excuse me if this is incorrect.
Cheers!September 25 alle 15:28
This is a complicated topic, there are several factors that you must consider:
- First, Lingq counts each separated form as a different word. In English, eg., it counts "work" and "works" as two different words, so you Lingq count can be higher that the actual number of words ("word families") you know. Depending on the language the difference can be substantial. In a language such as Swedish, which seems to be riquillers' target language I would say that the ratio is probably higher than two. That is, 19,000 known Lingq words correspond to less 6,000 word families.
- Second, your known word count and your fluency in the language are only weakly related to each other. A decent vocabulary is a prerequisite for fluency but it doesn't guarantee it. You must work in other areas, such as listening comprehension and conversation before you can achieve fluency
- Third, "fluency" is a very tricky term because each person interprets it differently. You can consider someone to be very fluent, whereas that person him/herself considers that they make too many mistakes and that there are areas that need improving, etc.September 25 alle 16:36