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English Conversations with Cliff LMA004, BARBARA w CLIFF #7.1

BARBARA w CLIFF #7.1

We started off today talking about how the MasterClass has gone and you told me that it's going well, that you feel like you are accumulating enough material to make a full 10 minute presentation in another two weeks.

And then we talked a little bit about the things that you were learning, like how Anna Winter might actually be a little bit of an autocrat. You said that she mostly takes her own advice, doesn't necessarily listen to her team. It's a bit more like she humors them. She'll call together a meeting to get their perspectives on things, but you get the impression that she walks into those meetings having already made up her own mind before talking to them. One way or another, you said that she definitely has a strong personality.

Then we went on to talk about unfulfilled dreams. I asked if there was something that you've always dreamed of doing that you never have and you told me right away that your answer would be traveling. You would love to take a year to travel. If you had no worries about time off or money you would you travel. It wouldn't just be randomly all over the world; you have certain places that you're interested in and certain places that you were most definitely not interested in. For sure, you would want to go where the sea is, maybe some islands.

You told me you've been to the Maldives and that the sea is gorgeous there. It's that same shade of light azure that all of the promotional pictures show it is. You said the fish in the Maldives have no fear of men, so they'll come right to you when you're in the water and that it's not nearly as salty as the sea off the coast of Slovenia. You also told me that Slovenia has a lot of trees on the coast, pine trees and when you're there you can definitely smell the pine, but the Maldives being closer to the Equator and more tropical have a completely different set of flora: pine trees I mean palm trees and bushes, so the entire thing feels and smells very differently. You said that you you're not interested in going places that are tourist traps and you're not interested in going to underdeveloped countries like Pakistan or India. South America sounds kind of interesting to you, but it also feels like it could be dangerous and you would much prefer to keep it safe. You're not so adventurous as to just charge into danger. You would like to take a European tour to see all the capitals and maybe North Africa as well, but nothing below the equator. You'd be okay taking a short trip to someplace like Dubai, but you're not impressed with big glitzy development. You prefer to go to some place that is closer to nature but is developed enough to still have some comforts. We laughed when you said that you had left your your camping days and backpacking days behind. You did tell me about a time that you went to Ethiopia. You said it was interesting to see the sights and how the people that live in but it's not necessarily a great place to wander around alone. You also got the feeling that white people were seen as cash machines there, that people would come up and and ask for money and at first you gave but after a little while the charm wore off on that and you began to hold on to your cash a little bit more, and you wondered with a laugh if maybe it was just because you're not quite that altruistic. But you did mention that the food was interesting and that the land was beautiful.



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BARBARA w CLIFF #7.1

We started off today talking about how the MasterClass has gone and you told me that it's going well, that you feel like you are accumulating enough material to make a full 10 minute presentation in another two weeks.

And then we talked a little bit about the things that you were learning, like how Anna Winter might actually be a little bit of an autocrat. You said that she mostly takes her own advice, doesn't necessarily listen to her team. It's a bit more like she humors them. She'll call together a meeting to get their perspectives on things, but you get the impression that she walks into those meetings having already made up her own mind before talking to them. One way or another, you said that she definitely has a strong personality.

Then we went on to talk about unfulfilled dreams. I asked if there was something that you've always dreamed of doing that you never have and you told me right away that your answer would be traveling. You would love to take a year to travel. If you had no worries about time off or money you would you travel. It wouldn't just be randomly all over the world; you have certain places that you're interested in and certain places that you were most definitely not interested in. For sure, you would want to go where the sea is, maybe some islands.

You told me you've been to the Maldives and that the sea is gorgeous there. It's that same shade of light azure that all of the promotional pictures show it is. You said the fish in the Maldives have no fear of men, so they'll come right to you when you're in the water and that it's not nearly as salty as the sea off the coast of Slovenia. You also told me that Slovenia has a lot of trees on the coast, pine trees and when you're there you can definitely smell the pine, but the Maldives being closer to the Equator and more tropical have a completely different set of flora: pine trees I mean palm trees and bushes, so the entire thing feels and smells very differently. You said that you you're not interested in going places that are tourist traps and you're not interested in going to underdeveloped countries like Pakistan or India. South America sounds kind of interesting to you, but it also feels like it could be dangerous and you would much prefer to keep it safe. You're not so adventurous as to just charge into danger. You would like to take a European tour to see all the capitals and maybe North Africa as well, but nothing below the equator. You'd be okay taking a short trip to someplace like Dubai, but you're not impressed with big glitzy development. You prefer to go to some place that is closer to nature but is developed enough to still have some comforts. We laughed when you said that you had left your your camping days and backpacking days behind. You did tell me about a time that you went to Ethiopia. You said it was interesting to see the sights and how the people that live in but it's not necessarily a great place to wander around alone. You also got the feeling that white people were seen as cash machines there, that people would come up and and ask for money and at first you gave but after a little while the charm wore off on that and you began to hold on to your cash a little bit more, and you wondered with a laugh if maybe it was just because you're not quite that altruistic. But you did mention that the food was interesting and that the land was beautiful.

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