• [PabloFranciscoAlmaguer] aw Aruba

    So far, I love it!

    August 2016
  • Latesil ru Russian Federation

    Big thanks for your work!

    August 2016
  • t_harangi us United States

    Yay! Spacebar for audio play/pause! Awesome!

    August 2016
  • davidmelo br Brazil

    Auto play text-to-speech is great ! but avatar is very ugly hahahahaha

    August 2016
    • Administrator
      mark ca Canada

      The avatar is unchanged from before. Give us some time to make improvements there! :)

      August 2016
      • davidmelo br Brazil

        hhahahahahaha yes ok

        August 2016
      • Aurel112 de Germany

        The avatar doesn't need to be improved in my view though. If you have to change something or even want to introduce a new one, then please give us the option of keeping the old little coloured comic-like chap...

        August 2016
  • abcdavid01 us United States

    I like the new look, but is there a way to change the script in Chinese? In "Classic" view my lessons have all used simplified characters, but I opened the new view today and saw my lessons are in traditional characters. Can I change it back to simplified characters while still using the new look?

    August 2016
    • Administrator
      mark ca Canada

      There is no way to change the script but that is a bug. It looks like lessons that were originally uploaded in Traditional characters are showing up that way in the new reader. We will get that fixed. It should be showing Simplified characters. For now, you will have to use the classic view. Sorry about that.

      August 2016
      • abcdavid01 us United States

        No problem. Thanks for the quick answer. I hope you get it fixed soon.

        August 2016
  • Aurel112 de Germany

    Yes, I've just tried it a bit and it seems to be quite good at first glance. Though I have noticed that, if you add a word to your known words count and then change your mind and make it a into blue word again, there is no word substracted from the overall word count and it then even adds a new known word, when you add it to your known words again. I think it didn't do that before and even though the word count is just a rough meassurement of how you progress, it should at least not do that, don't you think?

    August 2016
    • Administrator
      mark ca Canada

      That is an issue on our list. If you refresh the lesson, it will re-adjust the known words number to reflect the correct number. It is just on the page that it does show temporarily incorrectly.

      August 2016
      • Aurel112 de Germany

        Thanks for the quick reply. Ok. Then it isn't a problem...I want to add though that I like how you give us the option to just not use certain functions, like the new automatic text-to-speech. I don't want to use that, because I'm reading along, listening to the audio and creating LingQs, at least when I have progressed enough, as I now have in Italian. So please never ever make any of these functions mandatory. Otherwise I don't think LingQ would be very useful to me anymore. Also it would be great, if you could in future try to further improve the speed. Sometimes I have to stop the audio and rewind a bit, because the system doesn't go from one word to the next fast enough. I must say that I think it has improved though. Cheers!

        August 2016
        • Administrator
          mark ca Canada

          Yes, the speed of going from word to word should be better now. Of course, we would always like to make it even better and will be continuing to look into this.

          August 2016
  • genix79 ca Canada

    At the moment I am able to toggle back to Classic view. Is this going to persist as an option or will it be removed at some point?

    The reason I prefer it is because my entire text is in one scroll-able window. It lets me easily search either by using the browser search function or by scrolling to find things I want to look up. The most common use of this for me is to keep track of where I am in a text if I want to resume reading from a certain point.

    August 2016
    • Administrator
      mark ca Canada

      Classic view will remain as an option for existing users for the foreseeable future.

      Thanks for explaining your reasons for wanting it and we are aware of that desire to find words and specific locations. We are still trying to figure out the best way of enabling this kind of functionality in the new reader. As for keeping track, that is what the new reader is designed to do. It always knows which page and which word you are on and takes you there when you return. You can click on the individual chunks in the progress bar to quickly go to different locations as well.

      August 2016
      • genix79 ca Canada

        Being able to mark a location both in the text and in the audio would be really neat. I'll give the new reader a go and see if I have any issues with it remembering my location (I use multiple devices, so it comes down to how it is stored).

        If the reader had a localized search (being search current lesson) it would probably make classic view redundant. So I look forward to the new iterations.

        August 2016
        • Administrator
          mark ca Canada

          You can't mark a location in the audio I'm afraid but you can in the text. Unfortunately, you can't sync yet to mobile apps but only across browsers, as our mobile apps are still in beta. This will be coming so you can go to your spot in the lesson no matter how you try to access it.

          August 2016
  • Lucielucija ca Canada

    Nice!!

    August 2016
  • stytsaman br Brazil

    Finally, that mid 00's design was getting on my nerves.

    August 2016
  • Combiendemarins be Belgium

    Sorry but something is wrong. When clicking on the lesson title or the open button I reach a blank page. I'll try again tomorrow.

    August 2016
    • Administrator
      mark ca Canada

      @Combiendemarins - That seems strange. What browser are you in? Please try refreshing a few times. If it still isn't working, please post the lesson url so we can check into it.

      August 2016
      • karlgildenhuys nz New Zealand

        I seem to be having the same problem and it appears to be happening on all of my lessons. I am running it on chrome. Apart from this it looks great though. Thanks

        August 2016
        • Administrator
          mark ca Canada

          What operating system are you on? We had some problems with Chrome OS earlier but those should be resolved now.

          August 2016
          • karlgildenhuys nz New Zealand

            Yeah I'm using Chrome OS, that must be what's causing it. Still doesn't want to show any interface. It just finishes loading the page and shows a blank screen.

            August 2016
            • Administrator
              mark ca Canada

              We have fixed this issue but I realize it isn't fixed on the production server yet. It should be available for you tomorrow. Sorry about that.

              August 2016
    • Administrator
      mark ca Canada

      The issue affecting Chrome OS users should be resolved now. If it's still happening to you after refreshing a few times, or if you are having this blank lesson issue and you are not using a Chromebook or Chromebox, please let us know.

      August 2016
  • [Rob1992] aw Aruba

    It would be nice for the organization to add an option to justify the text of the lesson.

    August 2016
    • Administrator
      mark ca Canada

      That is not an easy thing to do, unfortunately, so I'm not sure we will ever do this unless it is something a lot of users are asking for.

      August 2016
  • romulloqueiroz br Brazil

    I'm liking it so far. Do I have the option to view the entire lesson in one page like before without having to change the layout to classic?

    August 2016
    • KiranLingQ ca Canada

      You're able to see the full translation (if available with the lesson) but clicking on the icon next to the "classic" button.

      But keep trying out the paging, you might not want to switch back ;D

      August 2016
      • Poljakov de Germany

        The "classic" mode appears half-broken for me (Safari 9.1.3), as the playback controls are half-way outside the viewbox. The paging feature seems promising, but unfortunately at the moment only the text is paginated, whereas the audio isn't, which is very irritating. It would be nice if there was an option to disable pagination.

        September 2016
    • Administrator
      mark ca Canada

      You can still see the print view which shows the full text but, of course, with no functionality. Just click the menu icon in the top left corner of the text to find Print and other lesson info and controls.

      August 2016
    • romulloqueiroz br Brazil

      Thank you guys.

      August 2016
  • khardy us United States

    I think I could like this. Thanks! But I would really like the options set in the reader to be "sticky". If I chose a different font style and turn off auto play text-to-speech, e.g., I would not expect to have to make those selections every time I log in.

    August 2016
    • Administrator
      mark ca Canada

      @khardy - This should be the case. The settings are remembered in your browser. Of course, if you log in on a different browser, you will have to set that new browser up the way you like it again.

      August 2016
  • galileo090 ru Russian Federation

    It looks very nice! Thank you.

    I have a problem though. With the reviewing new lingqs.In "Classic" version, after I finish to read the lesson and add all the new words, I could go to learn my new lingqs - I could choose the type of training easily and review flashcards, then cloze, then dictation and then multichoice. Now when I go there: 1st - it always says "Session complete", and second when I choose "review some more" its more difficult to choose the type of training I want. I feel like I can't control what I want to review. I see "Review lingqs (12)", but can't review them as I want. And when I review them in the new version they still stay yellow for a while. And again - it's like I can't control what I review and what I want to learn and how. Thank you for leaving "Classic" version so far!

    But thank you! New design looks great.

    August 2016
    • Administrator
      mark ca Canada

      @galileo090 - We merged all the tests together and show them randomly so that you get a mixture of the different tests as you review. This keeps things fresh and tests different skills. However, if there are tests you don't like, you can skip them by unselecting them in the settings for the activities. You can also set how many LingQs to include in each session. Each LingQ is shown twice in each session. And, you can determine what to see on the front and back of each type of activity.

      If you still want to have full control of your review, just click the View all LingQs button which will take you to the Vocabulary page with the full list of words for you to review the old way.

      I should also point out that we don't recommend testing all your LingQs until you move them to known. That is not the most efficient way to learn them. That is why we always try to redirect you back to the lesson. We want you moving on to new lessons and creating LingQs, lots and lots of LingQs. More LingQs than you can possibly learn by reviewing. You will learn these by seeing them in context in future lessons as you are reading and reviewing these new lessons. Testing words using the activities is a nice change and can be part of the review process but staying here until all your words are moved to known is not what we recommend doing.

      Of course, if you enjoy doing it, by all means do so!

      August 2016
      • galileo090 ru Russian Federation

        Oh, I see now. Thank you very much for the advice of using "View all Lingqs", I forgot about it. I usually use it once a week, when the words I studied up to 4 are going back to 3-2-1 level. Will use it now if need to control the reviewing lingqs as I used, too. Thank you.

        Thank you for explaining the system of making lots of Lingqs and then learning them by meeting in the other lessons. Now I understand the purpose of the changes in the reviewing section. Will try to slowly start learning with that new (for me) method. But again, I'm glad there is "View all Lingqs" where I can learn words as I used to, too. Thank you for leaving it so far.

        August 2016
  • Arimaz us United States

    I really love that we can see words within phrases we've saved easily now. Thank you for the update!

    August 2016
  • Sarka1 cz Czech Republic

    this new lingq 4.0 is nice but I have one problem with playing text-to speech audio for Greek. I imported an article from Greek newspaper and this audio is saying the word by individual letters and not a complete word as it should. Where can be the problem? Like this it is no good to listen to.

    August 2016
    • Administrator
      mark ca Canada

      @Sarka1 - We are not having this problem so it must be something happening in your browser. The text to speech is browser specific. Which browser are you using? Is it on a computer or mobile? Any more information you can provide will be helpful. Is this only happening to you for Greek or is also a problem in your other languages?

      August 2016
    • KiranLingQ ca Canada

      Hello Sarka1,

      I just imported a Greek article and the text-to-speech is working. Which article did you import and using what browser? I'll try to replicate the problem.

      August 2016
  • Adrian_K gb United Kingdom

    Hi Mark - I've got an issue with lingq4.

    I'm using chromebook and since update I can't load any lesson pages, although chrome on Windows laptop does work.

    Is it just me or are any other users face the same issue on their chrome-books ?

    I'm not too IT savvy but I did reset all settings and this hasn't worked.

    Thanks,

    Adrian

    August 2016
    • [platyphylla] aw Aruba

      It's a bug.

      August 2016
    • Administrator
      mark ca Canada

      Sorry Chrome OS users! There was an issue with Chrome OS but it should be fixed now. Please refresh those lessons and let us know if you are still having problems.

      August 2016
  • [platyphylla] aw Aruba

    I was sceptical at first when beta testing, but now i actually like the new reader (when it works, that is).

    We were listened to mostly and in particular my request for some way of skipping from only blue word to blue word by shortcut key was taken on board and implemented so that's great.

    Some things i still don't see the point of are things like the apple and the avatar/coins etc. To me, most people on here are adults and i don't think many people care about 'levelling up' their apple or having an avatar with different hats on etc. I don't see the point of them. They are the sorts of things that would usually be aimed at kids and i don't think there are many on here.

    August 2016
    • Aurel112 de Germany

      I agree. When I started I was bewildered by that childish stuff as well, especially since I value LingQ, precisely because it has an adult approach of massive input and not the stupid games you have to play in language classes these days. I like the avatar and the apple now though. It's silly, but it also is nice to have a red or golden apple. Oh well. Maybe they could make these things optional as well, so one can just get rid of them if one is bothered by them.

      August 2016
      • [platyphylla] aw Aruba

        It's not a case of being bothered by it, it's a case of them wasting time on pointless things like that when the site fails to run properly a good percentage of the time.

        People shouldn't be paying a tenner a month to use something that decides not to LingQ, decides not to LingQ phrases, stops loading lessons randomly etc whilst the LingQ team fanny about on things like a worthless avatar or some apple.

        August 2016
        • Administrator
          mark ca Canada

          There are many different types of users. A lot of users do find things like the apple and avatar motivating. It's easy enough to ignore those things and just use the parts of the site that appeal to you. We need to make our site as appealing as possible to different types of users. Can you give an example of a lesson where you can't LingQ or LingQ phrases? That would help us track down any issues.

          August 2016
          • TroisRoyaumes ca Canada

            The thing with linking phrases is that sometimes it works in one go and sometimes it takes repeated attempts (three or four times). It is very sensitive and unstable. (Chrome browser)

            August 2016
            • Administrator
              mark ca Canada

              @TroisRoyaumes - It works a little differently than regular text selection. You need to start your selection on a word and not between words. You can also try clicking on the first word in a phrase and then shift+clicking the last word. Does it work like this?

              August 2016
          • [platyphylla] aw Aruba

            Again if you actually read what i wrote, i said that it doesn't bother me, but it's strange that you waste time and resources messing about with such pointless things when the site runs like crap.

            August 2016
        • Aurel112 de Germany

          I see what you mean. I think the word to word speed has finally improved, though it sometimes is still a bit slow. Obviously I don't know what bothers platyphylla, but I would add that the servers sometimes seem not to be able to handle the traffic. Of all the sites I vist, LingQ takes the longest to load...

          August 2016
          • Administrator
            mark ca Canada

            We are aware of the speed issues and we are working to improve things. That is one of the reasons we rebuilt the way our pages load and we have been working on improving our infrastructure. However, our site also works a lot harder than most of the sites you visit. It takes a lot of computing resources to do what we do. Comparing all of your words with all words in all lessons to list courses while displaying new words and LingQs numbers takes a lot of computation. Just opening a lesson and comparing your word database with the words in a lesson takes a lot of computation, especially for longer lessons.

            Are you having speed issues now? On which pages?

            August 2016
            • Aurel112 de Germany

              I was mainly referring to getting to the page in the first place. It takes roughly ten seconds, sometimes even more, until the site has finished loading. My internet connection is not bad, and it only takes split seconds, or one second tops to get to any other page. It doesn't really bother me personally, but it seems to indicate that the servers aren't that capable of handling the traffic.

              Anyway. I have stayed with LingQ, because it is the only product of its kind, and I also like Steve. His videos, though hopelessly redundant, are always a great pleasure to watch and have been very helpful, especially in the beginning.

              So, LingQ is a great product, with quite a few imperfections left. The speed is one thing, but, if you haven't already you should certainly take a look a the language on your site itself. I have my personal page set to German, but it always throws in bits of English. So you get strange hybrid sentences, which is ironic for a language learning page. That was also the first thing that struck me, when I signed up. It don't mind now, but to be quite frank, it is a disgrace and it looks quite unprofessional to say the least, that you have that sort of mangaled language even in the contract section. When signing up that is the first impression one gets and it almost stopped me from using it, because I am careful. If not for Steve's videos, I would have thought the whole thing was a scam...

              August 2016
  • tourban de Germany

    Hi Mark. Thanks for "recreating" Lingq. I really like the new design and find it helpful in learning (Japanese)! However I have one issue: It doesn't seem to be possible to mark a string longer than a couple of words. Lingq just allows me to mark like 8 words or so. Is there a way to fix this? Because I like creating long Lingqs, which include whole sentences.

    I appreciate your support.

    Kind Regards,

    Tobias

    August 2016
    • Administrator
      mark ca Canada

      Hi Tobias, unfortunately, we do limit phrase length. Phrases that are too long cause problems for us in other areas of the site. Is it not more useful to try and learn shorter chunks or phrases that you may then be able to use yourself. We recommend LingQing 3 to 5 word phrases which you like and want to learn to use and then reviewing these using our activities. Then you can plug these chunks of speech in when you are trying to speak. You can't do this by learning long sentences.

      August 2016
  • Jorgis fr France

    In the new view Arabic is written from left to right, which is a bit disturbing for a right-to-left language... ;)

    August 2016
    • Administrator
      mark ca Canada

      Unfortunately, we haven't had time to spend on the beta languages. We hope to have time to do so soon.

      August 2016
  • youstillangry jp Japan

    Thank you, I love the new look and the functions.

    August 2016
  • mikebooks ca Canada

    So far i have 'tested' the new lingq by studying a Chapter this morning. My 2 cents:

    When initially studying a lesson the new lingq seems to make me focus more-- great because i sometimes (mean often) i stay too long on one part.

    When re-reading the chapter the 'old classic look' allows me the flexibility to read between paragraphs and ideas with ease.

    So thanks for keeping the classic look and feel.

    I like the automatic audio (and the new lingq allows one to view lingqs within lingqs much more readily).

    So far having both the new and classic lingq options allows me to have the best of both worlds.

    M

    August 2016
    • mikebooks ca Canada

      Just to add to what i posted. What i said originally said still applies. However....

      the the new LingQ keeps crashing-- after about 4 crashes i gave up and am now only reading/lingqing in the classic mode.

      M

      August 2016
      • Administrator
        mark ca Canada

        @mikebooks - Can you send a link to the lesson that is crashing? Also, if there is a specific action that crashes it. Does this happen on all lessons for you? Which browser and OS are you in?

        August 2016
  • Leifa de Germany

    There is an inconsistent behaviour in the new version of the reader: If I click a blue word and then click another blue word (without choosing any translation for the first word i clicked), the word becomes yellow. If I click on a blue word and then just click anywhere else on the page, then the word remains blue. I think the first case should be changed: I don't want a LingQ to be created if I just clicked the word but didn't choose a translation.

    Also what I really don't like is that all blue words become known when you page. How am I supposed to just casually open a lesson, listen and read along, without turning all words to known? What is the idea behind this?

    August 2016
    • [platyphylla] aw Aruba

      You can click the little cog on the right hand side and deselect the 'paging auto lingq's' or whatever it's called. This setting will automatically come back on every time you log in though.

      August 2016
      • Swedishfinngermanophile fi Finland

        I just logged on again after a break before the break I did deactivate paging and auto lingq thing. So now that I logged in again I checked if had to deactivate the paging and auto lingq thing but for me they stay the way I have selected even when I have logged in again. Apparently it is something that only affect some people.

        August 2016
    • Administrator
      mark ca Canada

      When you click away from the text, it deselects all text. When you move to another word, auto-LingQing is on by default. When clicking on a blue word, we assume you should do something with it. Make a LingQ, or make it known or ignored. It is set up to use the selected hint when you move on. If you are using the keyboard arrows this is very convenient. I recommend learning to use it this way as the most efficient way of studying lessons. And, if you know all remaining blue words on a page, just page to move them all to known all at once. We have set things up this way because we want to encourage users to do something with all blue words and move on.

      Of course, if you prefer other settings, just click the cog in the corner to adjust the behaviour. And, unlike what platyphilla says, your settings are remembered. The only time you need to reset them is if you log in using another browser.

      August 2016
      • Leifa de Germany

        Thank you, I didn't see the settings before. Both my problems are solved by this!

        Oh and I'm glad that finally a support for traditional chinese characters is implemented, although I would suggest the following change: Now you can choose pinyin OR traditional characters in addition to the text, which is always shown in simplified. But for people who learn the traditional characters, it would be more helpful to see the main text written in traditional characters. Then you could just focus on the main text and don't have to jump between then main text and the super script all the time while reading.

        August 2016
        • Administrator
          mark ca Canada

          @Leifa - Unfortunately, the appearance of Traditional characters is a bug. They appear but the LingQ functionality is not working properly with them. They should have been converted to Simplified and will be again once the bug is resolved. We hope to enable Traditional characters properly someday.

          August 2016
          • Leifa de Germany

            I'm a little confused by this answer. How can their appearance be a bug, i mean in the settings there is this section "Asian script settings" with the options "Pinyin", "Traditional" and "Off" and when i choose "Traditional", the traditional characters show up very small above the simplified in the text. I tried it for different lessons and it seems to work fine. So obviously, someone implemented this functionality!?

            So do I understand correctly, that this functionality should be removed again? That would be really disappointing, since I have been asking and waiting for traditional character support for 1.5 years now.

            And right now, it is basically already working, I just think it would be even more helpful, if the traditional characters are not shown _above_ the simplified characters, but _instead_ of them.

            August 2016
            • TroisRoyaumes ca Canada

              That functionality existed and was used before. But one day they decided to support simplified characters only and converted ....

              August 2016
            • Administrator
              mark ca Canada

              Sorry, Leifa, I was confused. Yes, the traditional characters are available as a superscript now. We would like to come up with a full size solution for Traditional but that will have to wait until we have time to spend on it. Right now, this isn't possible because the word lookup and saving functionality is tied to the full size text on the page.

              August 2016
        • TroisRoyaumes ca Canada

          They have already said that the show-up of traditional characters is a mistake and they are working on getting rid of it. I think it should stay so as to pave the way for Cantonese.

          August 2016
  • davidmelo br Brazil

    what do you think about a shortcut to rewind sound ?

    August 2016
    • Administrator
      mark ca Canada

      Maybe sometime in the future. But, we weren't able to add this now.

      August 2016
  • TroisRoyaumes ca Canada

    Could you move the "ignore" button up. Every time I have to scroll down to find that button, because there is so much stuff in between. Or, you can give the option to wipe out/hide much of the stuff in between with big fat frames (eg. Add tag, Enter notes). Anyway, the "ignore" button should be at least at a height equal to the last line of text being processed on the left.

    The text to sound doesn't work for Chrome browser. For many months it is an American reading out letters the English way for various European languages and it stays the same in the new version. I know it works great on iPad, but ...

    August 2016
    • [platyphylla] aw Aruba

      If you're on a computer you could just press 'X' which will auto-ignore.

      August 2016
    • Administrator
      mark ca Canada

      Unfortunately, we can't move controls around for everyone. We have tried to set things up in the best way we can from a number of different perspectives. What about using your up and down arrow keys to get to Ignore. Up twice will get you there, then hit enter. Or just hit x as platyphylla suggests.

      August 2016
    • Administrator
      mark ca Canada

      The TTS issue is a strange one. This is browser dependent and works fine for most users. But, we do have complaints about this issue from some. Somehow your browser is playing the TTS for a different language than the one you are studying. What browser and version are you on? What OS?

      August 2016
      • TroisRoyaumes ca Canada

        Latest Chrome on Windows.

        August 2016
      • TroisRoyaumes ca Canada

        Sorry, it's Chrome 42.

        August 2016
        • Administrator
          mark ca Canada

          @TroisRoyaumes - Can you try switching study languages and seeing if it does this for other languages too?

          August 2016
          • TroisRoyaumes ca Canada

            It does the same with German, French, Italian, Portuguese and Romanian - same American voice . For Chinese, it is complete silence.

            August 2016
            • Administrator
              mark ca Canada

              Chrome 42 is quite an old version. Can you try upgrading to the latest version to see if that resolves the problem? It is a browser related issue as it is the browser that handles text to speech.

              August 2016
  • dheidel us United States

    What happened to being able to print the lesson in the new Reader 4.0 interface?

    August 2016
    • KiranLingQ ca Canada

      The print option is still available. On the lesson page, click on the "Menu" button located under the audio controls. You see the print icon in the info panel that pops out.

      August 2016
      • dheidel us United States

        OK, thanks.

        August 2016
    • Aurel112 de Germany

      I have never used it, but it seems you just have to click on the menu button and then you'll find an option to print the lesson.

      August 2016
    • Administrator
      mark ca Canada

      You can do this in the lesson menu. Just click the hamburger icon in the top left corner of the lesson.

      August 2016
  • frozenyogurtboy us United States

    I've been with LingQ for a while and they are one of the few that stay true to their core and it's awesome that they are finding improvements for all of us! Thank you LingQ for all your hard work.

    August 2016
    • [platyphylla] aw Aruba

      Sorry but....'stay true to their core'? A lot of requests from established users were ignored in favour of bringing in things aimed at recruiting new members.

      August 2016
  • haci0 tr Turkey

    New design is good. But I have a problem. Because I don't see the full text, i click the to right arrow, and then all the unknown words becomes known. But I don't want this. I just want to see the rest of the text without make the words known. I don't find any way make the word unknown again.

    August 2016
    • Moderator
      VeraI de Germany

      You cannot make it unknown, but you can create a LingQ from it by clicking on it.

      In the settings (top right corner) you can adjust the Auto-LingQ mode off.

      August 2016
      • haci0 tr Turkey

        Thank you so much. I didn't know about the Auto-LingQ.

        August 2016
  • Moderator
    keke_eo fi Finland

    Congrats to the LingQ crew for the big update! Lots of great improvements.

    August 2016
    • SJPotter pt Portugal

      Such as?

      A list of the actual improvements that you feel helps us learn another language would be appreciated.

      Ignoring the eye candy of course....

      So far I have found little improvement.

      August 2016
      • KiranLingQ ca Canada

        Hi SJPotter,

        A lot of us all use LingQ in different ways and like different things about it. But here's a few improvements that I really like:

        - Ability to bookmark location in lessons

        - Paging. As someone who is at an intermediate level, seeing so much text on the screen can sometimes be a bit much. Paging is also something I'm used to since I read a lot on my kindle and ipad (which both use paging). What's great is the ability to switch back to scrolling if paging isn't what's preferred.

        - Selecting phrases. This wasn't clear for the first while I used the previous LingQ version and speaking with a lot of other users, the phrasing feature isn't used enough. The new phrasing works a lot better for me and I've seen more of an improvement in my learning!

        - Progress bar in the lesson. This is similar to a lot of e-readers. It's a feature I'm familiar with and use a lot!

        There's a lot of little things I love, but these main points have helped my learning journey.

        August 2016
        • SJPotter pt Portugal

          Fair play to you for responding...

          Ability to bookmark locations...Woohoo a new feature!!

          Paging - Yes I noticed this and it causes problems for me when listening to text and reading at the same time. New Feature - but I prefer the old way thank you....Glad I can change views back to the old view.

          Selecting phrases - something I do anyway - if it looks better and helps people understand the old feature, good on them for improving on this.

          Progress Bar - must have missed that, thought that was what my daily-weekly stats were for, to make sure I was pushing myself every day to try and meet the suggested targets in my chosen language.

          So the entire seven months of hard work paid off and gave us these really great features. Why then do I wonder, as I wade through a poorly conceived comic strip cartoon fantasy created by "a team?" with an eye on a wet dream rather than improving the actual learning experience for it's paying customers, encouraged by sycophants bowing at the alter of eye candy on almost every comment I see, what the LingQ team could have achieved if they had been actually looking at improving the learners experience.

          My request is a decent set of lessons with good audio and reasonable translations in the core language sets? or maybe I am asking too much...The LingQ team seem to be too busy giving us glamour rather than substance.

          Most of the stuff compiled by LingQ itself is laughable to the extreme. They seem to scrape together any old stuff and package it as good content. If it wasn't for the main premise of LingQing and the ability to create my own lessons I wouldn't be here. Love to share but it´s all copyrighted material (How I hate Hollywood and DRM and all that copyright shi** Stuff)

          The only lessons of any use seem to be user created and the decent ones are far and few between in my chosen language, or maybe I should change my chosen language, maybe that would help?

          It is funny to see me writing this kind of post because this is not something I usually do, I am not a negative person if truth be told, but I am finding it very hard to look a this update in any positive light and my frustration seems to be getting the better of me on this occasion.

          Any more features us users want to highlight that I may have missed, the list so far is pretty sparse for 7 months work....

          August 2016
          • solanderdog ca Canada

            "Yes I noticed this and it causes problems for me when listening to text and reading at the same time."

            That was one of my main issues too, but if you get into the habit of toggling the sound with the space bar before and after you turn the page, it's not so bad.

            August 2016
            • SJPotter pt Portugal

              So your suggesting that we work around the problems, rather than asking the providers of a service that your "presumably" paying for to change the system to your liking?

              Oh by the way. I would like the feature to be able to add more than 2000 words to a lesson and the ability to add more than 60Mb of audio..."I think that is the limit" to my imported lesson...

              You know something that will make an actual difference to me as a user...

              Instead I get comic characters with an obvious eye problem and an apple!!!

              August 2016
  • benscheelings nl Netherlands

    When I am reading a lesson, I should like to have the possibility to choose between page and scroll.

    August 2016
    • KiranLingQ ca Canada

      Hi benscheelings,

      If you'd like to return to using scrolling, you can click the "classic" button on the lesson page. That will open the lessons in the old LingQ reader.

      August 2016
      • Broy2012 us United States

        Yes, but how long will that feature be available? Surely you aren't going to maintain 2 interfaces forever.

        August 2016
  • WeavingWave ru Russian Federation

    I hope that the Classic view will remain as an option, it is better for faster reading of long texts.

    August 2016
    • solanderdog ca Canada

      Absolutely. I couldn't agree more. I burn through a lot of material - I just passed 4 million words read - and paging feels like driving with the brake on.

      August 2016
      • [platyphylla] aw Aruba

        This was all brought up in beta testing and ignored by the powers that be. They prefer it. They think it's better. Doesn't matter what we think ;)

        August 2016
  • Deahna de Germany

    Just beginning to get a first "feel" for the new look - and tried to work through one (short) lesson.

    First thing I turned OFF "Paging moves to known" and "Auto LingQ creation".

    I then proceeded to create 3 LingQs but the yellow "Review LingQs" thing says 4 LingQs.

    There is absolutely no way to find out what the fourth LingQ is, at least I can't find it.

    So the only way is clicking through the lesson from page to page to the end, using the progress bar. I did so. Now ALL blue words are marked as known; this is reproducible and I have just lost all blue words of two lessons (16 and 35) and will now have to work through each lesson word for word to figure out which they might have been.

    "Paging moves to known" is still turned OFF but apparently is ignored when you reach the last page?!???

    I would much prefer the old view made bug-free rather than having to spend a lot of time again running into new bugs, figuring out how to deal with them and, if not already happened by someone else, report them.

    Update: When I'm in lesson mode and click on the notifications badge, the notifications open on the right handside of the window. There's a pin (for what?) and a red cross. If I click on the red cross, which I assumed is for deleting, nothing happens. If I choose "mulitple choice" to review the Daily LingQs it goes to the vocab page and does - exactly nothing.

    August 2016
    • Administrator
      mark ca Canada

      Once you have turned off "paging turns to known" you can page using the arrows. There is no reason to page using the progress bar. Yes, going to the last page completes the lesson. If you had done this by clicking the arrows, you would have seen the lesson complete bar on the right side of the final page and would have known what was coming. Sorry about that. We will need to figure out a way of warning or preventing this action for those who have the paging to known feature turned off and navigate to the last page using the progress bar.

      With regard to making the blue words known, there is no great harm. You can just read the lesson and click on any white words that you don't know to create LingQs for them. If you understand the words when you read them, you can just carry on.

      With regard to the old mode, it simply became too difficult to maintain. That is why we started from scratch. I think if you just try the new way of using LingQ, you will get used to it and like it more than Classic mode in the long run. That has been the experience so far for us even though initially we all felt a little lost without our trusty classic mode and scrolling.

      August 2016
      • SJPotter pt Portugal

        This should not be enabled by default.....

        "Paging moves to known" and "Auto LingQ creation". Holy shite...How to screw up a perfectly decent (The use of the phrase "perfectly decent" is artistic licence on my part for the old software") piece of software and aggravate so many users at the same time is just poor. I have uninstalled software for less...I´m just glad the classic view is still there.

        I had my setting sorted to how I liked them and this update just decided that I did not know what was best for me and changed them. outrageous!!!!

        August 2016
      • Deahna de Germany

        If you don't want people to click on the progress bar, don't make it clickable in the first place and don't place it in a much more prominent position with a much more prominent colour and size than the comparatively tiny arrows for paging.

        I will certainly get used to the new mode, people do. But for liking it more than classic view: What's the use of paging if a lesson of 315 words being split over 5 (five!!!) pages with a lot of white space underneath - and at the same time getting rid of helpful features like being able to view all LingQs created in a given lesson (and this surely means I can't export them any longer either, right)?

        August 2016
        • Administrator
          mark ca Canada

          I'm not at all saying that you shouldn't click on the progress bar to navigate. That is why we made it work that way. All I'm telling you is that had you used the arrows you would've seen the final button and probably not done that. But, we realize we have to fix that problem and that it is a bug.

          You you can increase the amount of text that shows on each page using the setting on the lesson page. Just click the gear icon to view your settings.

          If you click the yellow LingQs button to open the activities you will see a link to view all LingQs. Click on that and you will be able to see all your LingQs on the vocabulary page. And, export them from there.

          August 2016
          • Deahna de Germany

            Thanks for the tip, I hadn't realized that this was the meaning of "page size". Now the same lessons gets split into "only" 3 pages. I still prefer the scroll mode though.

            But I still can't see all LingQs created for this one lesson.

            First I click on the yellow LingQs button and am told that there are no LingQs to review. Ok. Then I click on View all LingQs and I'm taken to the vocabulary page.

            On the right, under lessons, the right lesson is chosen.

            BUT on the left I see 72 LingQs, while I only created 20.

            I suppose there is something I'm not getting but why can't there be some straight-forward way on the lesson page itself?!

            August 2016
  • Fleaglebeagle gb United Kingdom

    Loving the new look and features. The old version was getting a bit tired and, in my mind, this extensive work that you detail shows commitment to the site. I particularly like the automatic speech on new words. Evolution is important. Bravo folks.

    August 2016
  • vgStef ca Canada

    Good work.

    With the flashcards, the X button show a tips saying "Press L if you were wrong", but pressing 'l' or 'L' on the keyboard doesn't do anything for me. Is it only happening to me?

    August 2016
    • Administrator
      mark ca Canada

      Thanks for letting us know. We'll get that fixed. In the meantime, you can use left arrow and then enter to select incorrect with your keyboard on the back of the flashcard.

      August 2016
  • temitope007 us United States

    Bravo guys. Fantastic job all around. Really shows your commitment to the site and offering a quality product. At the very least, the sleeker more modern interface has been long overdue.

    A few thoughts:

    Love pagination, new keyboard shortcuts, integrated review system. As an intermediate-level learner of German, this re-design was timely because I was starting to lose motivation having to read longer texts.

    Please re-design the rest of the site to match the reader. The exchange and other pages could benefit from re-design as well, so that the site has a uniform sleek modern interface all over.

    mobile app: I hope that there is a re-design in the works as well to make it more intuitive, more engaging, more sleek etc.

    user attraction: I was thinking that, if you would like to grow your product customer base, it might help to offer a more hold-your-hand approach with packaged courses, sleekly produced and marketed toward your average language learner, that can get them to 1000 known words (or other arbitrary levels) if completed. I think its what makes programs like Rosetta Stone successful (even if they are way less effective). Just a thought.

    Lastly, one suggestion for the re-design. I always ignore my 25 daily lingqs. it would be helpful if the 25 daily lings review was implemented in the same way as the End-of-Lesson Review integrated between all the different modes. Additionally when i log into the site, maybe a pop-up asking me to review my daily lings, instead of a notification (you can easily hit X if you don't wish to review your daily lings). Again, just a thought.

    In summary, good job on the re-design. I travel a lot, and I'm a huge evangelist for the app. I think bringing the design into the 21st century will only help grow your user base.

    Thanks,

    Tope.

    August 2016
    • Administrator
      mark ca Canada

      Thanks and glad you like it! Yes, we will gradually improve all the pages over the next few months or so. The mobile app is also being rebuilt from scratch for both iOS and Android. They are both in beta now and we hope to have them available in the next few months.

      We also have some improvements coming in the "hand holding" area you mention for beginners.

      Good suggestions for the Daily LingQs. We will improve these as well and look at those ideas. Stay tuned!

      August 2016
  • Irene777 de Germany

    There are many things in the new beta I love - and I work more intensive with the new version!

    But, there are some "sites", too.

    You are working hard - and - first and foremost, you have an open ear if there are problems or we "want to have" (like the spacebar :-)

    I know, patience is not my favorite attribute :-)

    August 2016
  • GreenAirplane sk Slovakia

    I have tested the new reader a bit, and so far I have to say it's great. It's a significant improvement on the previous reader. Well done guys.

    This post will be my review, starting with the things I like, following with a few things I think could be improved. These will include things that I didn't like about the previous version of the system as well.

    I use Lingq for Japanese, and the introduction of phrases has made handling the language much better.

    Japanese does not use spaces between words, which is a problem for Lingq, because words are what the system works with. So when importing Japanese texts, Lingq rather artificially splits them into words and inserts spaces inbetween. This is an imperfect process, because in Japanese it's not always clear what should be considered a word, and what is a grammatical construct consisting of several words. Also, the characters themselves sometimes represent words by themselves, but also make words when combined with characters next to them. Sometimes you really need a human reader to discern what was intended from the context. As a result, there would sometimes be splits where there shouldn't be, and vice versa. I'll give you an example:

    I've encountered the word 清楚, an adjective meaning "neat and clean; tidy; trim". Lingq has put a space between the characters, resulting in two words: 清 and 楚. With the old reader I'd have to select both words and then edit the entry, deleting the space. Not only was this tedious, but it also meant I couldn't turn the characters themselves (which in similar cases could also be words on their own) into Lingqs. But now I can make "清楚" a phrase, while "清" and "楚" will be words. Brilliant!

    What's more, I'm using the Rikaichan Firefox plugin that shows a dictinary tooltip when I hover over a word. Previously, when Lingq incorrectly split the word, Rikaichan could not cope with it. "清 楚" would never register as "清楚". But now that problem is gone! Rikaichan can actually read the words even if Lingq put spaces in them. I don't know if this was intended, or if it's a side effect of changes in implementation, but it's awesome! Definitely something to keep.

    I also like the paging of lessons. Great idea! It makes long lessons seem much less daunting, while it seems to improve overall performance of the system. The new cleaner and simpler user interface is a nice touch.

    As a software developer, I would also like to say the following: It was apparent to me that the old Lingq reader was developed gradually over the years, with new featuers being stuck onto the old ones as the need arose, leading to a mish-mash of a system that was glitchy, hard to maintain, where adding new things would often unexpectedly break old functionality. Sadly, this is a fairly common sight in software developement. I can't say this for sure, because I've only used the new reader for a day, and I haven't seen the actual code. But from the way the new reader looks and feels I'd say it was developed with a clean slate, applying the lessons learned from the previous versions, but unburdened by any legacy code. If that's the case, this is perhaps the most important improvement.

    Things I think could be improved:

    1. The custom settings still seem to be stored browser-side using cookies. The disadvantage is that you have to set those same settings on every machine you're using. Also, cookies are unreliable in long term - they exipre, or they can be purged. The settings are actually not working properly for me - the site keeps forgetting that I switched "Asian Script Settings" to "Off" and switches it to "Hiragana" regularly. Also, sometimes it switches "Paging moves to known" back on after I've specifically turned it off. This is especially annoying, because it causes the page to turn when I remove the last blue word, even if the blue word is in the middle of the page and I still haven't read the rest. Why you'd turn this on by default is beyond me. Guys, I'm not just making Lingqs here, I'm reading the text in the first place! I've talked about these settings with Lingq staff before, my understanding was that the plan was to store the settings server-side. It's a shame this hasn't been done yet.

    2. All the dictionaries open in a popup. Popups are annoying, they take time to close, especially when you didn't want a dictionary in the first place. With Lingq the hints are community-generated, so at times they are incorrect. In those cases I supply my own hints, but the UI forces me to launch a dictionary search whenever I do that. I don't need a dictionary, I can just copy the Rikaichan translation. There needs to be an option to "Create your own translation" without launching a dictionary. Or at the very least, there should be an option to have the dictionaries embedded in the page. But they should load asynchronously, so they don't hold up the whole page.

    Also, currently the system doesn't remember that I've added another dictionary to my list of dictionaries, so I have to re-add it every time.

    3. This is something that's specific to Japanese, and has been in the previous version of the reader as well. Japanese language doesn't have spaces between individual words. Lingq inserts these spaces because they are necessary to its core functionality. But the user should not see them if he chooses not to. However, even if I uncheck "Show spaces between words", the spaces are still there. They get really tiny, but I can still see them. This one's really just my pet peeve.

    Those are my two cents worth. I hope pointing out some of the glitches was helpful. No new release of a software is ever perfect, and I have no doubt the Lingq team will continue to improve the reader. As I said, version 4 is a major step in the right direction. Keep it up.

    I also have one question: Way back when I started using Lingq, I downloaded the android app, and found it lacking. Has there been any progress with the app? Is it worth giving it another try?

    Thank you.

    August 2016
    • [platyphylla] aw Aruba

      #2 was brought up as an issue by myself in beta testing and was dismissed.

      August 2016
      • GreenAirplane sk Slovakia

        That's really unfortunate. I guess I could set the browser's popup blocker to block popups from lingq.com. But if users have to go out of their way to block an undesirable feature, it's just bad product design. However, I think it's important to keep bringing these issues up. Something that was dismissed when a single user pointed it out, might not be dismissed if more people complain about it. Especially given how easy to implement the option to not show any dictionary really is.

        August 2016
        • [platyphylla] aw Aruba

          It's the utter resistance to changing things that are common sense which frustrate on here.

          Being able to input your own definition straight away is a common sense feature. It shouldn't need more than one person to point out this common sense to have it changed.

          The way the LingQ team works is Steve and Mark use LingQ how they want to use it, and then design the platform around how they like to use it.

          Everybody else then comes second and they will change from their desired method of using the system only if enough people make a big enough deal out of it.

          It should also be pointed out that in beta testing it was made abundantly clear that the new changes have come about solely to try and draw in and retain new users.

          Paging was made because new users were not understanding how to use the platform properly. The 'not having a manual hint input box' was explained away by the dictionary thing and by the fact that it could 'confuse' new users.

          Any normal person with normal creativity skills would have simply put together a comprehensive how-to video aimed at children to show people how to use the site properly. Instead LingQ decided to completely revamp the entire thing, taking out things that current users like (like hover mode, which is no longer available, meaning you have to click every single word to see what it means if you don't want to manually scroll through the text one word at a time with the arrow keys).

          August 2016
          • GreenAirplane sk Slovakia

            Funny you should mention that. I've read about this hover mode being a thing, however, in my year and a half of being a member, I have never witnessed so much a shred of evidence that there is such a thing implemented. Never. Unless I'm mistaken, it's supposed to show you the meaning of a word when you hover your mouse over it. Never happened for me. Luckily for me, for Japanese there are browser plugins that do just that. I've been using one called Rikaichan, not just for Lingq but all the Japanese I encounter on the web. Of course, it's not seamlessly integrated with Lingq, but it works very well anyway.

            So I can't really miss a feature that has never worked for me, the effects of which I've been achieving using an external tool. But I can understand that people would miss this feature (if there indeed ever was such a feature).

            August 2016
            • [platyphylla] aw Aruba

              Well my preferred method is to go through a new text, define the words, then read later in hover mode where i can hover over any i'm not sure of.

              This was swatted away with 'well you can just do it a different way now instead'.

              C'est la vie, i guess.

              August 2016
            • Administrator
              mark ca Canada

              Fundamentally, the more modes we build, the more we need to support and maintain and update, and, since our resources are then spread around, the worse all modes get. We have gone down that path before. This time we would rather build one mode really well. All modes have advantages and disadvantages. We have chosen the current mode as the best option for most situations. In fact, as the designer for all the modes we've ever had and a user, I like all the different modes and see the value in all of them. However, I can say without a doubt, that this current mode is the most efficient version yet and that I use it more than I have ever used any other mode.

              I suggest you give it a try and get used to it. You won't look back.

              August 2016
        • Administrator
          mark ca Canada

          By the way, we used to embed dictionaries but more and more dictionaries prevent this so we had to go back to popups. Not our favourite solution either but one we're stuck with I'm afraid.

          August 2016
      • Administrator
        mark ca Canada

        Again, platyphylla, you can do this with the h key. I responded to you yesterday about this.

        August 2016
        • [platyphylla] aw Aruba

          So you've implemented it now. My point was that it was dismissed in beta testing. And it was. I don't know what changed your mind on that specific thing, but my point in this thread of discussion is to highlight how suggestions were handled. A lot of it was responded to with a 'well we like it this way' and 'we think this' rather than listening to your already-paying customers.

          See below where you respond to a valid concern with 'many are happy using it'. Many probably aren't. That specific user certainly isn't. This type of response does nothing to reach a middle ground with him or others like him it just swats him away. Where were these polls that were taken for you to be so sure that you really know how people on here actually like things? I certainly wasn't a part of anything like that. Or do you just go by lack of complaints?

          The whole beta testing was a case of 'this is a silly way to do it' being responded to with 'well we/others like it'.

          Just sayin'.

          I'm no longer a full member anyway so my opinions are now largely irrelevant.

          August 2016
    • Administrator
      mark ca Canada

      Glad you like the update.

      1. Yes, it would be nice to store the settings server side. We will do this over time. We have to figure out what to do when the last word becomes known or ignored. It is handy that the selection go to the next highlighted word but is awkward when that word is on the next page. It has nothing to do with the paging moving to known feature.

      2. This is available as a keyboard shortcut - h

      3. We have tried to reduce these as much as possible. But, in fact, the spaces still have to exist for us i'm afraid.

      The Android app is significantly improved over how it was when you first tried it I'm sure. Many are happily using it now. Having said that, we are completely rebuilding it to match the new site and expect it to be much better when the new version is released later this fall.

      August 2016
  • Cadence17 ca Canada

    Awesome update. Excited that my favorite language learning tool got a face-lift.

    Quick question: is it possible to still see your level? At the end of every lesson it used to say "Add x number of words to reach Advanced 2" for instance. I enjoyed the novelty of progressing through those

    August 2016
    • [platyphylla] aw Aruba

      I'm pretty sure there is a list for the levels of each language. It's different for different languages, too.

      August 2016
    • Administrator
      mark ca Canada

      I'm glad you like it! We decided to remove the level from the completion screen as it was getting too cluttered and we wanted users to focus on fewer things. To see your level and how far to your next level, just click on the coin in the header which takes yo u to the avatar store and shows this information.

      August 2016
  • [accountdeleted] aw Aruba

    1) The system forgets my chosen dictionaries. I have to select them again and again.

    2) The text to audio does not work anymore after some time reading and working with the text. I have to refresh the page to make text to audio work again. I am using the latest Chrome for Mac.

    3) The setting "Notifications - Forum - Send Email" is unchecked in my account, but I receive these emails (nearly one every minute...). How can I switch this off?

    4) After signing up to a challenge, the page freezes.

    Thank you for your help.

    August 2016
    • Administrator
      mark ca Canada

      1. I haven't had this issue in Chrome on Mac. Where is this happening? These preferences are saved in the browser so if you switch browsers or devices, you will have to set your dictionaries again. They are also specific to each language. I am trying to find out

      2. Are you sure it's only the TTS that stops working? Is everything else on the page functioning properly including the lesson audio? Any more info you can provide here will help us try to reproduce the issue.

      3. That seems strange. It doesn't seem like you have been sent anything in a few hours now. Did you turn something else off? What I suggest if you continue to get the emails, is to click the unsubscribe link in the email and unsubscribe from forum emails on the unsubscribe page that appears. Then, also, please let me know so I can try to figure out why the original setting didn't work.

      4. That's strange. Next time that happens can you check the Chrome developer console under View > Developer > DeveloperTools and send us any error details you see there? That will help us track things down. What is your interface language?

      August 2016
      • [accountdeleted] aw Aruba

        Re 2) Now the TTS works all the time.

        Re 3) I removed the tick in the "Watch Thread" checkbox. Now no new mails.

        August 2016
      • [accountdeleted] aw Aruba

        Beginning within the last 60 minutes, I now see traditional characters above the Chinese text. I must switch them off manually.

        Every time I reopen a Chinese lessons I see traditional characters, how can I switch this off permanently???

        August 2016
        • hedgehogking us United States

          I have the same problem with traditional characters appearing.

          Also, there is spacing between words, even if I deselect "Show spacing between words." This is not how a normal Chinese text should look.

          August 2016
          • Administrator
            mark ca Canada

            You should be able to deselect the traditional character option in the settings. Is the setting not working? @vrwtwt Is that still an issue for you as well?

            Regarding spacing, there isn't much more we can do there. We have tried to reduce it as much as we can but we can't reduce it entirely and have our functionality work the way it does. Sorry about that.

            August 2016
            • [accountdeleted] aw Aruba

              Yes, after setting "Asian Script settings to OFF" and reloading the page, the traditional characters are back again, and the setting is lost. I have to set it to OFF every time I start a Chinese text.

              August 2016
            • hedgehogking us United States

              I was able to fix the spacing issue by changing the "border" property in the CSS for "sentence-item known-word" element.

              http://pasteboard.co/58rMv1i7j.png

              Perhaps this can be implemented?

              August 2016
  • DavidMartin us United States

    Thank you so much for all of your hard work!

    August 2016
  • Josh5 gb United Kingdom

    One thing I will say about the update is that I'm very glad you have chosen to let us switch to classic view. I really don't like the 'paging', and would probably use LingQ a lot less if I was forced to use that format all the time. I much prefer being able to see the whole lesson on one page. Paging makes reading a lesson really clunky!

    August 2016
    • [accountdeleted] aw Aruba

      I don't see the possibility to switch to the classic view. Where can I do this?

      See http://fs5.directupload.net/images/160805/tonjzk2e.png

      August 2016
    • Moderator
      VeraI de Germany

      I agree. Mark explained that they used eBook readers as a role model for this, but that is what I dislike the most on eReaders. On my smarthphone I have a reader that allows me to choose between paging and scroling.

      I worry how long we will have classic view.

      August 2016
    • Moderator
      VeraI de Germany

      I guess the new view is fine for very short (beginner) text. And maybe the new reader is easier for new members. But for long texts I like classic more.

      August 2016
      • Administrator
        mark ca Canada

        Interesting you should say that Vera. For me, it is precisely the longer texts that are infinitely better in a paged view. You always know where you are across devices and you can just worry about digesting bite sized pieces.

        August 2016
        • Moderator
          VeraI de Germany

          I use my PC only for LingQ. Maybe that is why I don't see this advantage. And when I come back to a lesson it is quite easy to find the correct position because the last LingQ has a red border.

          August 2016
    • [platyphylla] aw Aruba

      I see more and more people saying this - which is exactly what i said in beta testing. I was ignored.

      Next time LingQ, you should perhaps consult your members on what they like BEFORE implementing changes?!

      August 2016
    • Moderator
      VeraI de Germany

      By the way, the funny thing is (it just came up to my mind) that we had paging here on the forum some years ago. They changed it to the scrolling mode. Especially for long thread like this paging was better. And it was more easy to find new posts than in this long thread with so many branches.

      August 2016
      • [platyphylla] aw Aruba

        They should have just implemented free forum software like every other site uses. Better, cheaper, less work, leaving them time to work on important issues like bugs and glitches.

        August 2016
        • temitope007 us United States

          I think you should ease up on the complaining. it's not healthy.

          August 2016
      • Irene777 de Germany

        Exactly, Vera, this is what I miss at most. This change was a really bad one!

        Perhaps - one day - LingQ will answer our wish, or should we do a member vote??? :-)

        August 2016
  • Irene777 de Germany

    I see, here are a lot of arguments against the new version.

    So, I will be honest - it was for me the same, because I am a litte older, and the classic version was familiar. Each new and changed thing needs a little more time.

    I know, the new version is not yet at the end - some things can still be changed. I am not a programmer, so I don't know what is possible and what isn't.

    Now, I worked a little longer with Beta, and it becomes more and more familiar. Indeed, I work at a PC! This is probably a big difference to others with iPad, iPhone, Tablet PC and so on!

    The biggest wish I still have is, to have the whole text of a lesson on ONE page, except it is a really very long text!

    To have the sight over all would be really helpful. The tip, to change the setting by the gear is not enough! This brings only a few lines more!

    What I really like is the new possibility, to stop and run the audio by the spacebar!

    How I mentioned before, some things aren't stabil, and from time to time happens confusing things there, but:

    Rome wasn't built in a day.

    August 2016
    • [accountdeleted] aw Aruba

      It seems that new members don't have the possibility to switch to classic mode. I don't see this option.

      See http://fs5.directupload.net/images/160805/njenzur2.png

      August 2016
      • Moderator
        VeraI de Germany

        On this screenshot the settings are opened and overlaying it.

        August 2016
      • Administrator
        mark ca Canada

        That is correct. New members don't have the option to go to classic view. That function only exists for pre-existing members.

        August 2016
        • [accountdeleted] aw Aruba

          Too bad. Seems I signed up a few days too late. :-(

          Maybe I use my tablet (still classic). Or I cancel my subscription. I really would prefer the classic view.

          August 2016
  • [accountdeleted] aw Aruba

    Uploading own texts and audios works, but line feeds (CR/LF) are lost during import. I have to insert them manually. The sentences are also not recognized/split automatically. It's too tedious to insert these red sentence breaks manually - therefore I cannot use the sentence view on my tablet and/or iPhone which would be nice.

    I am also not able to switch to classic (scrollable) display of a lesson like on a tablet. It is difficult to find the correct audio position for a lesson page... Any solution for this?

    Thanks in advance for your help.

    August 2016
    • Administrator
      mark ca Canada

      I'm not sure what you mean by line feeds. You are able to insert the sentence breaks using the controls on the edit lesson page but I suspect that is what you mean by it being too tedious. We are working on splitting texts into sentences better so this should improve over time. Trying to insert special spacing or html type characters will not work.

      As far as finding your place in the audio, the best way is to try and match up the location in the audio with a similar location in the progress bar and then page back and forth to find your spot.

      August 2016
      • [accountdeleted] aw Aruba

        Mark, thanks for your reply, Please have a look at this snapshot. The text is copied via Copy & Paste. The CR/LF are lost after pasting.

        http://fs5.directupload.net/images/160805/2q7turks.png

        There is something wrong on the import text page.

        August 2016
        • Administrator
          mark ca Canada

          I'm not really clear what you mean by CR/LF

          August 2016
          • Moderator
            VeraI de Germany

            CR = Carriage return

            LF = Line feed

            The way you control new lines and new paragraphs.

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newline

            August 2016
            • Administrator
              mark ca Canada

              Thanks, Vera. @vrtwt - There are issues with lesson formatting. These are always tricky issues and we are trying to come up with a solution that works in all situations. Because of the interactions we need to make with the text, it is not that easy to find a perfect solution. This is a work in progress.

              August 2016
  • Ironvil gb United Kingdom

    What do the gold circles ( up to 4 ) under a lingq represent? The words frequency of use?

    August 2016
    • Administrator
      mark ca Canada

      That's right, Ironvil. 4 coin words are the most frequently appearing words while 1 coin words are less frequent. You earn 4 coins for every status increase for 4 coin words and 1 coin for 1 star words.

      August 2016
      • Ironvil gb United Kingdom

        Might I suggest putting that somewhere as it isn't on any of the walkthroughs and is otherwise an absolute mystery.

        August 2016
        • Administrator
          mark ca Canada

          Good suggestion! We'll add that to the help.

          August 2016
  • TommyTrue at Austria

    Looking good.

    Both classic and new view have their pluses and minuses. In Chinese the new view somehow neutralized my external simplified-to-traditional-convertor. Also I quite like plowing through long long texts all at once. For those reasons I'll partially stay with the Classic for now, and think it would be nice to keep it.

    Every language product claims that they are the one that is different and better. I really think that LingQ stands out as the one where this is actually true. It is based on the input-hypothesis rather than the skill building hypothesis. The others, while invariably claiming that with them you will learn “like children learn” or “the natural way”, are all mostly on the skill-building-hypothesis, and therefore severely lack in substance.

    I echo the voices that hope that, while emulating the other sites with more of a cartoonish, gamified exterior, LingQ will always keep enough focus on its substance, content and decent functionality.

    August 2016
  • [accountdeleted] aw Aruba

    Can somebody explain the meaning of the numbers behind these apples and coins?

    http://fs5.directupload.net/images/160805/re7nk9k7.jpg

    Thank you for your great work.

    August 2016
    • [accountdeleted] aw Aruba

      Nobody?

      August 2016
      • Moderator
        VeraI de Germany

        The apple is showing how many times you were working on LingQ in a row as far as I remember. You can click on the apple for an explanation.

        The coins are showing how many avatar coins you've "earned" so far (in 1,000 = k). I would not recommend clicking on it in the middle of the lesson, because it leads you to the avatar page (what I find a bit annoying).

        The bubble is showing how many notifications you have. Simply click on it to see them.

        August 2016
        • Administrator
          mark ca Canada

          Thanks Vera! The number beside the apple tells you how many days in a row you have met your LingQs target. You see this on the lesson completion screen where it shows how you are doing versus your daily goal.

          August 2016
          • [accountdeleted] aw Aruba

            Many thanks!

            August 2016
  • diosconequis mx Mexico

    Great update, however in the previous version I could select a word and then edit, which is very useful in German since some words are split off and you can't select both parts, but now it does not let me edit the word (lingq) I have selected. I hope you can bring that function back, thanks!

    August 2016
    • Moderator
      ColinJohnstonov gb United Kingdom

      diosconequis, do you mean editing the hint for the word (i.e. the translation), or editing the word that is actually being saved?

      August 2016
      • diosconequis mx Mexico

        I mean the actual word which is being saved. So, for example "I give myself up" the word is "give up", so I select the word give and then edit it to "give up" and save my Lingq as "give up" :)

        August 2016
    • Administrator
      mark ca Canada

      That function is no longer there but we are planning on figuring out a way to enable something similar. For now, you will have to add new words on the Vocabulary page. You could just open it in another tab.

      August 2016
      • diosconequis mx Mexico

        Thanks. I really hope you add a similar function because at least in German there a so many verbs with 2 parts!

        Besides this, I love the new interface, it is much less scary to dive into long lessons by doing only a paragraph or 2 at the time. Also the apple and streak thing seems to be keeping me motivated. good luck

        August 2016
  • job86 se Sweden

    In classic mode you can export the Lingqs of the lesson to a textfile. This function seems to be missing from the new view.

    Also, increasing the number of times that you've read the article now takes two clicks rather than the previous one click. This might seem like a minor issue but it's just bad UI design and will become an annoyance due tothe high frequency usage of this function.

    There should also be an option to increase or decrease the amount of text shown on each page.

    August 2016
    • Administrator
      mark ca Canada

      @job86 - If you click the View all LingQs button on the Review activities page, this takes you to the Vocabulary page with the list of terms from that lesson selected. You can export from there. We do plan on adding this functionality to the lesson review area so you won't have to leave that page in the future.

      Sorry for moving the counters off the main page but we wanted to remove as much clutter as possible and those controls are only used occasionally during typical usage. However. by tucking them out of sight we are worried that they aren't visible enough for all users to realize they exist. We are trying to figure out the best place to add them to make them more prominent.

      This does exist in the Settings for the lesson. Just click on the gear icon to see the settings.

      August 2016
      • job86 se Sweden

        Thank you for your reply.

        Exporting Lingqs from a lesson is now a much more time consuming task compared to the old version.

        I understand your guys reasoning but I would still ask you to consider to organize the functions that are subject to high frequenzy usage (such as lingq exporting and adding "times read") so that they are readily accessible.

        August 2016
      • usablefiber us United States

        Love the new version of lingq. It's just much quicker and snappier to use, especially for highlighting phrases.

        August 2016
  • [accountdeleted] aw Aruba

    Every time I open an OLD lesson (having it read until the end yesterday, e.g.) , it is opened on the last page. Now I have to go from the last page to the first page. That's quite tedious. Is there a shortcut to go to the beginning more rapidly?

    August 2016
    • diosconequis mx Mexico

      Yes, on the green bar which shows your progress on the lesson you can click on the very first green square to go to the beginning, or to any other to go to that part of the text ;)

      August 2016
      • [accountdeleted] aw Aruba

        Oh, yes, I forgot this green bar! Thanks a lot!

        August 2016
  • evgueny40 ru Russian Federation

    I am quite a conservative person and I am usually afraid of all changes, but this time I like this new Lingq Reader.

    It would be especially useful for the beginners 1,2 and Intermediate 1 because when such a student looks at the whole text with so many blue words he becomes panic-stricken, and now he\she looks at the part of the text and can be more encouraged to get through it and then add a new page etc.

    But it's also good that for the high level stidents the opportunity of classic view of the whole podcast is also avalable.

    And the dictionaries works more reliable with a lot of examples.

    Good job, friends!

    August 2016
    • [accountdeleted] aw Aruba

      New members are not able to switch to the classic view. I don't understand this.

      August 2016
      • mikebooks ca Canada

        That would irritate me because there are pros and cons to both the new system vs. the classic. I am right now integrating both, depending on the text and my goal with the lesson.

        August 2016
        • Administrator
          mark ca Canada

          I understand why you feel this attachment to classic mode. You've enjoyed using it and feel like it's an old friend. That is always the way when tools that you are using change in some way and you have to learn new behaviour to do what you want to do. You find yourself wanting to scroll because that is what you are used to and when you can't you get frustrated. I, too, found myself wanting to scroll initially and experienced that feeling of frustration when I couldn't.

          But, having used it only in paging mode for months now, I have no desire to switch back to classic ever. I realize I may not be representative but I do think that it's largely force of habit that is the issue here. That is why new users won't get the option for classic mode. They won't miss what they never had and since we believe the paged mode is better, that is the mode we will show them with as little clutter and extra options as possible.

          The numbers so far, bear us out. In the last 3 days 91% of all LingQs have been created in the new reader. Those are mostly existing members who prefer the new format as there are only 3 days worth of new members. There has also been a 123% increase in LingQs created over the preceding 3 days. That is a massive increase. Yes, it may be excitement over our new release and it is undoubtedly a small sample size but those are the numbers that will drive our decisions.

          Yes, we want you, our loyal members, who like the way classic mode works, to continue enjoying LingQ the way you would like to. That is why we have left classic mode there for you. But so far the direction we have taken with the new reader is working for us.

          And, it's not a question of dumbing down functionality or being any less focused on serious users. I consider myself a serious user and I don't think anyone can doubt that Steve is a serious user. Steve had the same reaction as you did initially. He missed scrolling and wanted it back. But, he wouldn't say that now and has never done more on the site. And, that's saying something.

          Regarding the app which still scrolls, it won't scroll in the new version either. Both iOS and Android apps will mirror the functionality on the web. That is when the ability to save your location easily across devices will be even more advantageous. I am using the mobile app in this way now and it makes the new experience even better.

          We try to respond to user feedback as much as possible and I really think we are quite responsive and do a lot of things that were requests from the community. At the same time, we are responsible for moving LingQ forward and making it better and standing still isn't an option. We base our decisions mostly on what people do and not necessarily what they say, especially since most users never say anything at all. That is the only realistic way for us to make decisions based on our large userbase all of whom may have different preferences.

          I urge you to try using the new reader only for a few weeks and then see if you still want to go back to classic. Not because we want you to abandon classic, it's not going anywhere. But, because numbers aside, we genuinely believe the new reader is much, much better.

          August 2016
          • [platyphylla] aw Aruba

            Love the manipulation of the data.

            '91% of LingQ's have been created with the new platform so that means it's preferred? Of course most LingQ's in the last few days have been created with the new platform - it's new. People will be keen to try it out.

            Very very poor.

            August 2016
          • Moderator
            VeraI de Germany

            Hi Mark, on August, 6th, you wrote "The numbers so far, bear us out. In the last 3 days 91% of all LingQs have been created in the new reader. Those are mostly existing members who prefer the new format as there are only 3 days worth of new members. There has also been a 123% increase in LingQs created over the preceding 3 days."

            I'm just curious. Do you have figures for the last 7 days for old members only (because only they can choose)? I think the first 3 days are not relevant because people simply try out the new view.

            August 2016
            • Administrator
              mark ca Canada

              Vera, yes, the numbers have stayed virtually the same. It has now been over two weeks since the new reader was launched. We don't have exact stats on old members but LingQs created in classic are about a third as much as they were before the update. That suggests that two thirds of those with the option are using the new reader, which considering long time users' resistance to change is pretty good.

              More importantly, from our point of view, the number of LingQs being created using the new reader is five times that. This means more than twice as many LingQs are being created now as compared to before the update with 85% of them created in the new reader.

              August 2016
      • Moderator
        VeraI de Germany

        I don't get this too. Why can't they choose like we do? That would give you a proper impression what people like more. Personally I see positive and negative things in both versions. Why not offer the positive things of both worlds?

        August 2016
      • [platyphylla] aw Aruba

        Because instead of simply explaining the system properly they decided new users were too stupid to understand it and so redesigned the system around them. I'm assuming that they now think Classic mode will confuse the poor newcomers and are protecting them from it.

        In reality, new users won't miss what they never had.

        August 2016
        • [accountdeleted] aw Aruba

          You wrote: "In reality, new users won't miss what they never had." -- That's not true. I was a member here some time ago. What's more, the iOS and Android apps have still a classic, scrollable view. The new paged view may be nice (good for newbies; seems to be faster with long texts), but has also many disadvantages.

          August 2016
          • [platyphylla] aw Aruba

            What....of course it's true. NEW USERS. If you were a member here some time ago you're not a new user are you?

            New users are people that come from now on and sign up. They won't miss classic view because they will never have had it.

            It doesn't matter what the iOS version does, iPad and desktop versions of all programs often look totally different.

            August 2016
            • mikebooks ca Canada

              Of course brand new users won't know what they are missing BUT as there are advantages and disadvantages to both the classic and the new, why not have it available.

              Just my 2 cents,

              M

              August 2016
  • Tarris1 no Norway

    Why can't you just add additional options of page sizes (instead of small to large you have say X to 2000 words) so that by making the page large enough it will be just as the classic view for those who prefer that? I for one prefer the classical view when I read and listen to audio at the same time, but prefer the page view for when I do not listen to audio so that extending this availability I would have the best of both worlds.

    August 2016
  • alfacentauri hu Hungary

    I can see the big work behind the changes and I appreciate some of the new features and design elements.

    I hope that the classic scrolling will be available as a standard feature at least for the lessons of the bigger sized courses. I developed here so much and started to read and make linqs of books in German and in English.

    I would like to learn more here but the present way of pagging makes really hard to concentrate an a fluent reading and it makes it even more difficult to listen and read the extramely short pages.

    I like to help my learning of the fluent reading by dealing with the blue words before or after having read a 2000 words lesson but definitely not after every 3-4 sentences. This very segmented method useful at the starting of the language learning but not later. So I would use the new paging for Russian and I would use the classic scrolling for my German study.

    Is it possible to parameterize the paging not just for 3 options (short, middle, long pages) but for a fourth option namely the original lesson's length with one page segment? This would offer users the new paging and would offer a design and new concept fitting scrolling option without the temporary and out of the design classic button. I think others also suggested something similar.

    August 2016
    • Administrator
      mark ca Canada

      @JamesS, alphacentauri - We are considering some options here but there are also technical limitations. If we can find a solution that makes sense, we may add something like this. In the meantime, you will have to use classic view for scrolling the full text.

      August 2016
  • [accountdeleted] aw Aruba

    SELECTED DICTIONARIES ARE LOST AFTER SWITCHING LANGUAGES

    Switching to Chinese

    Opening a Chinese lesson.

    Clicking on a new word.

    Clicking on „All dictionaries“

    Selected: Google Translate.

    Adding Leo.

    Removing Google Translate.

    Now only Leo is in „Selected Resources“

    This will stay while working with Chinese lessons....

    Switching to French

    Opening a French lesson.

    Clicking on a new word.

    Clicking on „All dictionaries“

    Selected: Google Translate, Le Conjugueur and PONS.

    Adding Leo.

    Removing Google Translate & Le Conjugueur

    Now only PONS & Leo are in „Selected Resources“

    This will stay while working with French lessons....

    Switching back to Chinese

    Opening a Chinese lesson.

    Clicking on a new word.

    Clicking on „All dictionaries“

    === My above selected dictionaries are lost ===

    Leo is not available in Selected resources. Only Google Translate.

    I have to select again Leo and remove Google Translate.

    See above...

    Switching to French

    Opening a French lesson.

    Clicking on a new word.

    Clicking on „All dictionaries“

    Selected: Google Translate, Le Conjugueur and PONS.

    === My above selected dictionaries are lost ===

    etc. etc.

    THIS ANNOYS ME A LOT. -- Only me? Am I the only one?

    My cookies were not deleted in between.

    Why it is not possible to keep my preferred settings?????

    And the ultimate question:

    No programmer, none of LingQ staff including Steve, hundreds of beta testers were unable to find this? Why are you offering to select preferred dictionaries and make the system forget them after switching languages? This is a very poor design and/or implementation. I worked many, many years in the software business, and I know what I am talking about.

    What's more, the asian language settings are also forgotten by the system after leaving a lesson.

    August 2016
  • [accountdeleted] aw Aruba

    Another severe bug!

    I unselected "Paging moves to known".

    But if I click at the right-hand-side (the last segment) of the green bar, all blue words become "known" automatically, although I unselected "Paging moves to known".

    More and more I have the impression that the whole LingQ system is still in beta.

    August 2016
    • Administrator
      mark ca Canada

      @vrwtwt - Thanks for pointing out the dictionary issue. It was working previously but seems to have been affected by some optimizations we have done. We will get that fixed. The issue with Chinese was discussed already and will be fixed in our next update. If you have blue words not automatically moving to known and you click the last page, the completion page, it completes the lesson. If you are reading through the lesson using the paging arrows, you see the complete lesson button on the last page but if you use the pager to go to the last page, you don't of course. This is something we have to figure out how to prevent and has been mentioned already by others. This is something that only occurs when you adjust the default settings and so we haven't yet figured out the best way of dealing with it. We will figure something out.

      I would also add that there is no need to be so belligerent. All software has bugs. We're not trying to push bugs. Just report them without the invective and we will get them fixed.

      August 2016
      • [accountdeleted] aw Aruba

        "There is no need to be so belligerent. All software has bugs. Just report them without the invective..." -- These bugs would be acceptable if the service that is run by the buggy software doesn't cost money. If you want to earn money in the long term, you need happy paying custumers/users. If your customers are unhappy they will stop using LingQ and cancel the subscription. It's that easy. You should be thankful that I take my valuable time and write down all the problems and bugs I have with LingQ. Next time I will not do this anymore and better have a walk in the sunshine. I don't want to pay for annoying bugs AND to spend my time to report them.

        August 2016
        • Administrator
          mark ca Canada

          We do appreciate you taking time to report bugs and we will fix them as soon as possible. We are sorry that you had those bugs but its simply not true that commercial software be bug free. It just means that we support the software and try to fix bugs as soon as possible. That is what we are trying to do.

          August 2016
  • EKnehr us United States

    I like the update. For long texts, I find the paging feature makes it seem more manageable. The LingQ creation for phrases also works better for me.

    I see on earlier posts that some had trouble with the activities coming up as a blank screen. I have had this problem over several days. Refreshing the screen, going into and out of a lesson do not help. I tried deselecting some options, too see if maybe it was just the transcription exercises for example that caused the issue. No joy.

    Once or twice, the exercises worked for a word or two, and I really like them and wish they would work for me.

    I use the Firefox browser and the operating system on my computer is MS version 10.

    Thanks.

    Eric

    August 2016
    • Administrator
      mark ca Canada

      Can you send a link to a lesson you are using that is having this problem? Also, do you have a large number of cards set for your activity sessions or a low number? I think the default number was originally set to 10 cards.

      August 2016
      • EKnehr us United States

        https://www.lingq.com/learn/de/web/#/lesson/50050/chunk/7/word/519

        https://www.lingq.com/learn/de/web/#/lesson/50956/chunk/1/help

        There are links to two I tried last weekend. As far as I know I didn't change the default value of 10 cards for the activity sessions. I tried to find where to check but I can't seem to locate it right now.

        Thanks.

        Eric

        August 2016
        • Administrator
          mark ca Canada

          I can't recreate this issue on either of those lessons. Are you still having the problem? Does it happen if you try in Chrome as well? It may be a specific term causing the problem. If you continue having the issue, you can help us by sending the following information from the Developer tools in Chrome:

          Open Developer Tools in Chrome by clicking View > Developer > Javascript Console and scroll down to the bottom of the page that opens up. Send us a screenshot of what you see there.

          August 2016
          • EKnehr us United States

            I tried with a computer at work that uses an MS operating system, and it worked fine. On every lesson I try with my computer at home, on which I prefer the firefox system, it doesn't work at all. I tried 5 different lessons and verified that I have 10 cards per session set.

            August 2016
            • Administrator
              mark ca Canada

              You mean you are using a computer with a Firefox operating system? I thought that was just for Android devices. Or do you mean you are using the Firefox operating system on a Windows pc?

              August 2016
  • pmda gb United Kingdom

    Hi, does it support Latin? I'm using Chrome OS running on Windows 10. My texts are in Latin and all the flags are indicating that it's British English. The old version had access to Latin dictionaries etc. Latin used to be an option but I don't see it now. Also my iPhone app asked me to sign in again and, again, didn't provide a Latin option.....It works but it looks like to old version.

    August 2016
    • Administrator
      mark ca Canada

      Yes, Latin should work fine. Just click on the language switch which has moved to the right side. The iOS app has not been changed.

      August 2016
  • pmda gb United Kingdom

    How do I switch languages. Been looking around for 10 minutes...can' see any way of doing it.

    August 2016
    • Moderator
      VeraI de Germany

      Top right corner, left from your profile picture you can change the language.

      August 2016
    • Moderator
      Ress de Germany

      Unfortunately the flags are gone from the list of the languages. And the list is in English.

      August 2016
  • Ginkgo58 au Australia

    I like many things about the new reader, though having the lesson come up in a number of pages is awkward.

    How do I change languages?

    August 2016
    • Ginkgo58 au Australia

      Oh, I click on the little Chinese flag in a Chinese lesson. The other languages come up in a list.

      August 2016
      • Ginkgo58 au Australia

        It is annoying, when one gets to the end of a page, to have to find the little green arrow to go to the next page.

        August 2016
        • Irene777 de Germany

          Look to the "Keyboard Shortcuts" that helps

          shift + left/right arrow - next/previous page

          August 2016
        • Administrator
          mark ca Canada

          You can also try reducing the page size in the Settings to try and avoid having pages that require scrolling. We are trying to figure out how to avoid showing text that requires scrolling as well. We are also looking at adding a paging control at the bottom of the text so you don't have to scroll up to find it.

          August 2016
  • djlopesrj br Brazil

    Hi Mark, I loved the new LingQ reader version, but I want to know, when is it available on iPad/iPhone app?

    August 2016
    • Moderator
      ColinJohnstonov gb United Kingdom

      The new, completely rewritten, version of the iOS app is currently being developed. The only detail that I will reveal is that it is awesome.

      August 2016
    • Administrator
      mark ca Canada

      The new app is in beta but isn't ready for release. We are looking for additional beta testers so if you are interested, let us know.

      August 2016
  • einsam sy Syrian Arab Republic

    Now I can say ,,, IT WORKS !! it's smoother,easier and got friendly interface unlike previous version

    August 2016
  • hermesSPS ca Canada

    I I Congratulations! I really like the new reading component. A great improvement.

    BUT I definitely do not like the new reveiw part. It is painfully slow and boring. Fortunately, it can be circumvented by going to "classic".

    Please keep the classic version available. I find the "flash cards" in the older version are so much more immediate, easy and useful.

    Anna

    August 2016
  • eown340 kr Korea, South

    감사합니다!

    thank you

    August 2016
  • dcook89 us United States

    Looks great! And breaking the text up into smaller chunks makes it a lot easier to handle.

    August 2016
  • stanh us United States

    What I really want is the ability to loop audio for a selected section of text.

    If that is too much to ask, the ability to jump to the audio for a given page (which is exactly what I assumed the progress bar was for) and to loop any given page.

    Thanks for your responsiveness and commitment to constant improvement.

    August 2016
    • Administrator
      mark ca Canada

      Tying the paging to the audio is not really possible since page sizes can vary and any matching would have to be done with a lot of manual labour which isn't really possible given the size of our library. A segment looping feature has been requested over time and is something that is in our roadmap.

      August 2016
      • stanh us United States

        Segment looping would be wonderful. Thank you!

        August 2016
  • [Rob1992] aw Aruba

    Terms and phrases aren't showing up. What's happening?

    August 2016
    • Administrator
      mark ca Canada

      That sounds strange. Seems fine for me. Try refreshing the page. Make sure to let it fully load. If you still have problems, post the url here.

      August 2016
      • [Rob1992] aw Aruba

        I did everything you said but nothing has changed.

        August 2016
        • Administrator
          mark ca Canada

          Please send the url to support and we'll figure out what's happening there. I assume this is just one lesson that is causing you problems?

          August 2016
          • [Rob1992] aw Aruba

            In fact it is affecting all lessons.

            August 2016
            • Administrator
              mark ca Canada

              What browser are you using? What language are you studying? Please email support with more details. We may need to ask for you login information to find out what is happening there.

              August 2016
            • Administrator
              mark ca Canada

              @ColinJohnstone - Well, there should be...but, there's a conspiracy amongst browser developers and TTS providers to keep out what would obviously be a very popular option...!

              August 2016
    • pmilone us United States

      This has been happening to me also. A good many of my phrase LingQs do not show up in the lessons, but if I highlight the phrase in order to lingQ it, my original LingQ re-appears with all my tags, and notes. It doesn't seem to matter if the lingQ is designated 1,2,3, or 4. This happens only with LingQ phrases not with individual words. This has been happening only since the official release of LingQ 4. It never happened with Beta.

      August 2016
      • Administrator
        mark ca Canada

        Yes, that is happening and will be fixed in the next update. Sorry about that.

        August 2016
    • Administrator
      mark ca Canada

      @Rob1992 - Can you try again now?

      August 2016
      • [Rob1992] aw Aruba

        The problem is solved. Thank you mark!

        August 2016
        • Administrator
          mark ca Canada

          Great to hear!

          August 2016
  • Dimethylamine us United States

    I'm still giving it a chance, though I do prefer the classic view better; it seems like you can fit more words on a page than the new view. (Also, you can definitely fit more words per page on the mobile app, the only problem for some is the scrolling!)

    I do enjoy the book marker style of reading, because the problem with the old version was you could easily lose your place.

    It looks a bit cartoony, but that's just taste. Edit: The text change makes it better too!

    The only complaints I have are when you click the > for next page, the scroll part doesn't reset. It would be nice if it would automatically scroll to the top so I don't spend time clicking the scroll up button, because by the time I scroll up, I'm already behind when I try to read along.

    Example, if a page has a long paragraph, I have to scroll down to follow along with all the words while I listen. When I click the next page, it is still scrolled at the very bottom, which can throw you off.

    Also, the first page doesn't look like yours, mark. I'm not sure what it is, but it seems like all the bells and whistles are taking up half of the page, which is just a bit annoying, but usable.

    http://i.imgur.com/TTBhueP.png

    August 2016
    • Administrator
      mark ca Canada

      @Dimethylamine - It looks like you may be zoomed in quite a bit on your browser or you have a low screen resolution. You can try zooming out on your browser or changing your font size and page size in the settings on the lesson page.

      Otherwise, I like your suggestion of shooting you to the top of the next page when paging. We will add it to our list.

      August 2016
      • Moderator
        ColinJohnstonov gb United Kingdom

        "...We will add it to our list."

        I always wondered what kind of list you lot have. Is it a big white board on the office wall with 'THE LIST!!!' written above it?

        August 2016
        • Administrator
          mark ca Canada

          Something like that...

          August 2016
          • Moderator
            VeraI de Germany

            A picture, please ...

            August 2016
            • Moderator
              Ress de Germany

              I guess the list is in Jira or other bug tracker.

              August 2016
  • SJPotter pt Portugal

    Hi,

    So it seems you have fixed an Issue I had with the classic view, in your new cartoon version.

    (If the characters didn't look like they had already had a good beating, I would happily give at least one of them a nice black eye)

    In the classic view I was unable to highlight and make know blue words that I had already made part of a phrase and lingq-ed, without having to delete the phrase, lingq the single word and then re-lingq the old phrase.

    In the new version I can finally do this. Hurrah!!! an actual improvement in functionality.

    However you have now removed the functionality that was in the classic version, that if you clicked on the "blue words left" icon it would then list the all new un-lingqed words on the right hand pane and then you could click on them and they would instantly be highlighted in the text for you to lingq.

    Can we please have this functionality back, rather than me having to go through pages of text (Woohoo to paging, no I still don´t like it for long texts) to find any of my missed or un-highlighted words, once I get to the end of text.

    Or do I have to suffer having to repeatedly swap views to get the job done?

    I am here to learn a language not to fight against the software and then waste my time posting on the support forums.

    August 2016
    • Administrator
      mark ca Canada

      We're still trying to figure out a good way to find specific words in the new reader. If clicking on blue words is important to you, you will have to do this in classic for now I'm afraid.

      August 2016
  • Davey883 gb United Kingdom

    I know i'm a little late to the party but what struck me straight away was the rigidity of the page, I tried it for a minute and then went back to classic mode, this was shortly after it was released.

    Now I'm trying it again and from reading some comments and dabbling a little it seems there is no means of modifying the interface.

    The solid seemingly nonadjustable window (correct me if i'm wrong) relatively unusable for me in 175% zoom. I know not many will use that level of zoom but in the classic mode it worked very well on the largest font setting

    The lack of full screen capability as mentioned above, especially with zoom and large font just has me switching back to classic mode. Also not being able scroll the browser window for me makes it more troublesome.

    Hope I don't come across as a moaner. Clearly a lot of effort went into the design and the aesthetics are great but it's just not my cup of tea.

    September 2016
    • KiranLingQ ca Canada

      Hi Davey883,

      Thanks for the feedback!

      But just to let you know, the lesson font size can be changed without adjusting your browser zoom settings.

      Once you're in a lesson, click the settings wheel on the top-right side, you will see a text size adjuster that changes the text size and other page options.

      September 2016
      • Davey883 gb United Kingdom

        Yep, I have it on the largest setting and also on 175% zoom! A learner mentioned in the past how they liked to blow up the characters and I followed suit.

        It's probably a detriment because it's unrealistic but I find it helps to notice some slight differences and I won't have it any other way now!

        September 2016
    • khardy us United States

      I prefer a vertically-oriented monitor for reading, and I find that setting the page size to Long, as described by Kiran, works fine with that format. It took a little while to get used to the enforced pagination, but just a little while. I find it no problem now. If for whatever reason I want to see the whole lesson I can use the Print format (the menu in the upper left), though that does not show lingqs (and that's sometimes a good thing).

      September 2016
      • gregf fr France

        I find myself using the new mode when reading a new text, and the classic mode when re-reading a text that I've already marked up with LingQs, in order to listen and read without having to click through the pages.

        In my opinion, both views are complementary and should be offered to everyone: just rename them to something like page-view and long-view.

        September 2016