Catalan as a beta language
Today Catalan is a beta language!
@Zoran, could you tell some words about the next candidates? Do you have any progress with any other languages?
I'm not trying to ask when. Just curious.
I know some folks have been working on the Irish mini stories, but I don't think they're done yet. That's the one I'm really looking forward to.
I came from Georgia some weeks ago. I did not want to learn any Georgian but I have unintentionally learned their alphabet just looking at the road signs and comparing the letters with the latin ones. Since then it seems to me interesting to learn a bit of Georgian.
I am translating the Finnish mini stories I have only about 5 left. Sadly I can't help with the recordings but there is one member who has Finnish speaking friends/acquiescence and is working on getting them recorded (at least a part of them).
@Ress Georgian is next in line. We have content ready for it for a while and it should be next. Other than that, I believe Thai and Hindi are work in progress.
I am so happy!
For those who are more familiar, are Catalan and Occitan closely-enough related to be mutually intelligible?
Not quite. You can understand quite a lot, especially if written but it takes a good deal of guesswork and there's a lot that won't be easy to understand. Pronunciation is also quite different
There's a variant of Occitan (and more concretely of Gascon) that is actually spoken in a part of Catalonia: the Aranese language, spoken in Val d'Aran. They have three official languages over there: Spanish, Catalan and Aranese. I give you a link to a TV program by the Catalonian TV where they explore that language. Notice that the conductor considers it "exotic and unknown"and he sometimes asks about the meaning of very common words such as "oc" (yes, cat. "sì") or "bric" (not at all) that gets translated in the video as catalan "gens", Spanish "nada".
The part where the conductor tries to understand an Aranese hockey team is especially interesting for this question. Notice that he can understand some sentences but not others and he hesitates quite a bit. It's also a very interesting comparison of both languages since you get occitan audio and Catalan subtitles.
There are also some interesting comparisons of particular words and expressions, comparing several Catalan and Occitan languages and they refer to the actual use of the language, etc.
Link to the first part:
P.S. Btw, that TV show "Caçador de paraules" (word hunter) is a very interesting one for those interested in languages in general and Catalan in particular
An especially interesting piece of data relating to your question. At this point in the program:
The Catalan conductor tells the translator "this particular variety of Aranese I find very difficult to understand, Is it a stronger accent?". The tranlator asks the Aranese speaker: "What is the difference between the Aranese from here and that from "up there" (meaning the area where they'd been previously)?" The speaker replies "The Aranese up there is half Catalan". "The language over here is pure Aranese"
So we can conclude that there's a partial mutual understanding which depends on the exact variety that is spoken
Awesome! Looking forward to Catalan. A complete resource for all the big romance languages :D
Thank you for all your efforts!
Soon we can read all this books on LingQ!
today I have send mini storie 37, 38, 39, 40 to zoran❣️
Fantastic !!! Great news.
Any timescale on this Zoran?
It's now up on our developers to work on it when they get a chance among other things. Should be within next couple of weeks. Thanks for your efforts and help, Jolanda!
I hope the developers can transform
„within next couple of weeks“
„ in the next days“.
You know: I‘m an optimist ❣️❣️❣️
You know: I‘m an optimist ❣️❣️❣️
Thanks for your hard work, Jolanda. I will be checking out Catalan as soon as its up on the website! moltes gràcies!
Do you think we can use the beta version of Catalan in October?
That would be great!
I certainly hope so.
Yeah, I got to say it's a bit disappointing at how long it's taking.
It’s been close to two months and still no Hungarian mini stories.
Wait, you mean Hungarian hit the required material to become a Beta language two months ago and you're still waiting?
Corin_Wright Yes, the beginning of August. I was hoping it would only take a couple of weeks for Hungarian to become a Beta language, but it has been nearly two months.
Not sure about the exact date, but I think both Hungarian and Catalan will be available soon. I think Georgian too.
I understand that you guys are disappointed, but we have plenty of work on our plates already and some things are just more important than adding new languages. We will do our best to have all this new languages for which we have enough study material prepared up soon.
Is there a possibility to involve the users to help you get the new languages available sooner or to take some of the other work?
Great news! My company just hired a guy from Catalunya and I'm pretty excited with the opportunity to practice this language on a daily base, but I need some basic materials to start. Perfect timing!
Thanks for all your efforts, Zoran!
Beta-Hungarian is online!
So Catalan-beta will be the next?
Yup, Catalan is next in line, real soon! :)
Are we talking weeks or months? 🤞🤞🤞
@Corin Weeks. Probably even days now.
?? I think it's a dream❣️❣️❣️??
How many days? 🤔
I am not going to say anything! Sorry, I feel like my predictions failed a few times already.
It depends on our developers, but I know for sure that Catalan is in process of being added and should be anytime now,
I suppose, as long as Marc and Steve are in Japan, there is no beta catalan.
Hi Zoran, thank you for keeping us up to date. I am sure that everyone of us appreciates it as much as I do. I hope Català will be added very soon, I am really excited!
Literally looking multiple times per day if it's added xD
I hope you will find the time soon, to put all the lessons online ❣️❣️
Will do, Jolanda! :)
I'm anxiously waiting for Catalan as beta language to happen. Visca el Barça ;)
Stories 21-30 have been sent to Zoran.
Providing there are no problems we are just 4 stories short from getting BETA
Unfortunately i cannot provide anymore assistance as i have returned to work and my time is limited.
Yolanda,Is there any chance you can continue and finish the last 4,
As I told you earlier “ we will be back in September ‘.
I hope I can send the last 4 stories next week.
I will do my best.❣️
Soon wi can use the beta Catalan. 🌞
Thanks for your efforts
Hi Guys,Just a quick update...stories 20 to 30 are now translated.
I am just finishing the audio recordings and should be in a position to submit to Lingq this weekend/Earky next week
Any luck with the last 4 stories which will get Catalan Beta status ?
Almost there guys.
Nosotros aun estamos de viaje.
Si puedes anadir 4 mas, seria estupendo!
Bon treball!!! :D :D
Awesome! Thanks so much for the work both of you are putting in. I know many of us can't wait to start Catalan on LingQ
I would be very interested if Catalan were to become a Beta langauge. Is there a time scale by which this could become possible ?
As soon as we have enough Mini Stories delivered. At this moment I can't say for sure, but hopefully within next month or two.
Excellent.If there is anyway i could help with the mini stories i'd be happy to.Thanks
Hey Zoran, any update on the situation!? :)
Hey Corin, at this moment we are on 26 delivered stories. 14 more and we can start preparing Catalan for Beta. :)
I will send more after the holidays.
Is there any way i can help you Yolanda?.Im eager to get Catalan into the system.If i can help in anyway let me know.I live i Catalyuna and could easily get some audio produced by native speakers.
If theres anything i can do.Let me know
Maybe Zoran can send you storry 20. to 30.
In an other post opel 65 wrote:
”Hola a tothom,
I'm working on it. I've already finished transcribing the first 20 mini stories, and I have planned to start the recordings next week.
As soon as I have at least 40 mini stories translated and recorded they will start preparing the language for the Beta.
Be patient and thank you for your interest.”
So we begann with storry 31-36. But now we are traveling.
We will be back next month.
If you find friends how have time to do it now, I will be more tan happy!
Have a good time en Cataluña!
I love the enthusiasm we're seeing here! :D :D :D
Could you possible send me the stories 20-30 and i'll begin to have them recorded
Sure thing, done! :)
Mini Stories Catalan.
today I have send 34, 35, 36. to Zoran.
Mini Stories 31, 32,33
I have send it to zoran today.
As @levmyshkin said, so far we have 20 Mini Stories done in Catalan, and we need to have at least 40 in order to add a new language, preferably all 60 stories.
I think they are still missing about 20 mini stories