Time period knowing 1000 Chinese characters for reading
Some here seem to recommend ANKI or SRS and I would like to add maybe find some Taiwanese Manga, Light Novels and novels of subjects you like. This of course I mean scaled to your level. In the process of reading these I truly think it will help speed you up.
I don't know how Chinese characters are with Chinese only Japanese. Can radicals also help speed up your understanding the further along you are...is curious.
It's a different language but it took me about 6 years to start reading Japanese books without feeling like a total noob. Everyone's different for sure. I started Japanese at age 34. I think if you're younger you can pick this stuff up faster.
what's "to pick up?" . I mean if you're just studying characters, their independent meaning and pronounciation, depending on your pace you could do 1000 in a month with the right materials. I did around 2.8-3k kanji with heisig and some other tools in around 5 months I think.
But then there's still actual vocab, compound words, context, slang etc
I'd try to get to as many characters as I can with something like heisig or similar tools in +/- 2 or 3 months and then focus on reading in context.
My experience is centered around JP though, not entirely the same..
In 1 year I learned 1000 as a backseat thing, but you say you are maintaining 10 other languages depending on what this means this could make it take forever lol. Could you elaborate on what you mean by 10 languages and what constitutes maintaining them?
I plan on just staying/maintain on ten languages forever that includes Arabic with many dialects. Learning new words and reading materials.
Anybody have personal experiences with retaining the Chinese symbols?
Just to recognize them? I would imagine just a few months. for french it took just over a 2 months. I understand Chinese is different, but if you are really going at it, @LuckieNoob's idea of 4-5 months sounds about right.
I can tell you are smarter than me from your photo. How many languages you know Robert?
Can't tell if you are kidding or not, but definitely not. to answer your question: English, around b2 in french and was a2 in german at one point.
If you manage to learn only one character every day roughly 3 years. If you learn 10 every day 4-5 months.
Just divide 1000 / characters you can learn per day.
Retaining 10 Chinese Symbols a day is tough challenge.
do you use Anki or an SRS review program? I jammed about 10-15 new characters a day until I hit about the first 2k frequency (then I dropped down to 5 after about 9 months, now I'm at just 2 a day).
If you use SRS and are consistent, it's not an insurmountable obstacle. But how many months that takes a learner depends on the time they can spend a day on it.
You will still forget them constantly, so you do need to do an incredible amount of reading to actually get them to stick and really learn them (there are so many shades of meanings / different definitions so it takes a honest long while to actually say you "know" a character).
Chinese is so much fun! The characters seem intimating, but there is a point where it just starts clicking and the patterns emerge and then it because easy mode of picking up a lot vocab from the combinations.
Agree with TofuMeow RE: the SRS approach and consistent reading. I used the Robert Heisig Books for learning the characters, and made my own flashcards in Anki from the books. I reviewed and added characters daily for about 2 years with an average of probably something like 15-20 characters added per day (some days adding more or less than others, some days off here and there). Once I got to my third year of learning Mandarin I stopped reviewing characters as frequently, and now rely solely on reading in order to both learn and retain new characters. If you've heard about Stephen Krashen, you'll know about the Comprehensible Input Method. I'm a big believer in that, and of course aside from speaking with native speakers, reading has been the biggest help for me in learning Mandarin. So all that being said - at this point I'm somewhere in the HSK 5 range after nearly 4 years of studying consistently and not learning other languages at the same time. It will be different for everybody and it depends what your goals are. A good place to start is asking yourself why you want to know the characters? For me, it was to be able to read content written in Chinese whether that was literature, subtitles on Chinese films or Chinese songs at the Karaoke bar.
I don't use ANKI or SRS. Will look into them. Thanks.
10 is more than feasible indeed with srs