I'm overwhelmed with my vocab list! (pressure to create LingQs)

andreahill ca Canada

I loved LingQ initially; I'd read and listen a ton, happily creating LingQs. Except now I have over 1000 words in my vocab list, and I feel pressure to add another 13 every day! I feel like I"m drowning, and am less motivated to read more and make my list even longer! Any guidance on how to get through the lists and not feel so behind?

June 13 at 03:04
  • lusan us United States

    Just enjoy the ride. It is infinite.

    June 13 at 03:46
  • DitzyRobert ru Russian Federation

    Hi andreahill!

    So, by that vocab list you mean the one you've got to review? If that's the case, I would really recommend you to drop that thing. Seriously. Now that you have over 14000 words known you don't really have a need to review your vocabulary list. Don't get me wrong, I am not trying to impose my way of doing things, it is just that you'll bore yourself to death with that kind of approach. There's nothing wrong with some reviewing when you're just discovering a new language, but doing that by the time you've achieved the intermediate level or higher is sort of worthless, in my humble opinion. Just imagine how long your list will be one year from now, two years... what about your interest? The immensity of that list will surely kill it completely if you keep on reviewing it.

    If that is not the case, I wonder what exactly hinders your motivation?

    I wish you well.

    Robbie

    June 13 at 05:15
    • andreahill ca Canada

      thanks! that's exactly the problem - I feel like I am "doing it wrong" by not burning down the list faster than I'm building it. I'll cut the pressure :-)

      June 14 at 00:54
      • aronald us United States

        My advice would be to stop trying to control the beast (aka your brain) and let it just do its thing by constantly feeding it good content to consume. By doing this you will make very good progres over time. I would even advise you to start making reasonable “words read“ per month goals and see if you can keep increasing that every month. I think someone who has completed intermediate 1 should aim for at least 30k words read per month, intermediate 2, at least 50k words read per month, and a person who has completed advanced 2 should be doing 100k+ per month unless they are moving onto another language. Those targets are minimums. The more the better.

        June 14 at 01:57
        • andreahill ca Canada

          Love this! Thanks for the suggestion

          June 14 at 03:05
        • musicserver77 ca Canada

          I'm interested in your monthly goals, am looking to do something similar with my French learning but was thinking along the lines of time spent rather than word count (more or less the same thing, in the end). So I'm trying for 1 h reading and 1/2 h listening per day (I'm on vacation now so have the time and really need to structure my day, or else the time evaporates). I imagine one should include weekly Skype conversations or other such practice . . .

          I would love to see a separate Forum for suggested readings/listening, since not everything can be imported into Lingq. For French I'm thinking, for example, of the short story David by GMG Le Clezio, or Mediter Jour Apres Jour (Christophe Andre), and his 3 minutes a mediter , also on youtube. Anything with psychologist Boris Cyrulnik--both he and André speak slowly and clearly, and I find the content rather interesting. I might try to start a separate thread of suggested readings, would love to see what others recommend.

          June 14 at 12:43
          • aronald us United States

            What do you mean by not everything can be imported? I've had pretty good luck importing just about everything. Thanks for the French suggestions. I’ll need some material when I get back around to it.

            June 14 at 13:01
            • musicserver77 ca Canada

              What I mean is that not all youtube videos have subtitles and seem not to be imported, also I have books (physical, paperback), audiobooks and ebooks etc and haven't been too successful fighting with DRM.

              At any rate sometimes I want to relax into a book (paper, ebook or audiobook) and try to take it in as though it were in my mother tongue. Also just want to watch/listen to youtube video without interrupting to lingq, also TV. I think I need to do this at my level in French (intermediate 1-2) to push myself forward.

              June 14 at 13:11
  • donw333 cn China

    Just do what works for you. Drop the rest. :)

    June 13 at 11:14
  • oceanscrew us United States

    I've learned 381 russian words and not studied 1 flashcard. I look at the lingqs as more of just letting you know you've seen it before, so you can rack your brain trying to remember it. I've learned the vocab by repeatedly listening and reading the stories. Don't stress reviewing flashcards.

    June 13 at 16:45
  • musicserver77 ca Canada

    I used to feel the same way, very frustrating and , in the end, useless. Then I discovered comprehensible input (first francaisauthentique.com, then francaisavecpierre.com and their free youtube channels) and just listened and listened and will never again bother with vocabulary lists in French.

    June 13 at 18:03
  • ianholmes gb United Kingdom

    Forget about the lists.

    I have over 40,000 Lingqs in my vocabulary list, not including the one's I have learned. I never review them, I hardly ever look at the vocabulary list. Adding 13 Lingqs per day is just a target for activity. The more you read the more Lingqs you create, you are not expected to learn them all by studying the vocabulary lists. You learn them by reading and listening. As Steve says: Do what you enjoy doing, don't do what you don't enjoy doing, don't put yourself under pressure. Just read and listen and occasionally review if you want to.

    June 13 at 19:27
    • jomearaX ca Canada

      I agree with these sentiments - use LingQ the way that works for you. It’s interesting to see the different numbers, but in the end it’s what you are doing for yourself that counts.

      June 13 at 20:17
  • tuv se Sweden

    The more the merrier, really. I always seem to have about the double amount of lingQs to the amount of known words. As long as the known words keeps increasing it´s all good. What you can do however, is sort the vocab list by "most important", look through some words at the top and don´t worry about the rest.

    June 13 at 20:21
    • andreahill ca Canada

      thanks! this may help!

      June 14 at 00:55
  • t_harangi us United States

    I honestly think LingQ should automatically turn off the words review feature once you've reached the Intermediate 1 stage. (And let you opt back in, if you really want it for some reason.)

    For beginners, this feature gives a certain reassurance -- though I question its actual usefulness even then. But as you reach Intermediate and Advanced levels, pursuing a method that's based on reviewing words really just becomes a hinderance in my opinion.

    June 13 at 20:39
    • tuv se Sweden

      I think the review settings should be turned off by default. When I first started they just felt confusing and annoying, making LingQ seem more complicated than it should be. Don´t want anyone to be intimidated by this amazing platform.

      June 13 at 21:16
  • deadlywisdom au Australia

    I've recently started using the dailySRS review system, which seems to prioritise recently created lingqs. I've found I'm absorbing much more this way, and I like how they are sort of randomly generated, but I've needed to modify the way I use lingq. I now import a lot less into lingq (I used to import nearly everything, lots of things I would sort of skim through, and I could have hundreds of new lingqs in a day), in order to stop creating so many new lingqs, and instead try to focus on a single chapter (or something even shorter for beginners) for a few days. So for example, on Monday I might create 50 lingqs from a new import, but I don't create any more lingqs for the rest of the week. I just put my attention to understanding that weeks chapter. Hopefully, if the SRS review works, it should get easier and easier each day.

    That way, when a word comes up in the SRS review, I'm more likely to recognise it, and it really helps supplement my reading.

    June 14 at 03:52
    • jomearaX ca Canada

      Spaced Repetition (SRS) is a proven learning method to commit items to long-term memory, for vocabulary or anything else that people want to learn. The research supporting this technique is extensive. Using the daily review is really invaluable since it takes advantage of SRS.

      June 14 at 19:52
  • Seul-gi nl Netherlands

    I think the only reason SRS was added to LingQ is because some people asked for it. It's handy when you start a new language and you want to switch up your activity after reading and listening. Occasionally when I feel a bit bored after Lingqing I will use the SRS system as a "break" and then continue reading or listening. Don't worry too much about it.

    P.S. I also use SRS after a single page. (not always though; it depends on the difficulty of the material)

    June 14 at 17:07
    • deadlywisdom au Australia

      I don't bother with it for most languages that I use on here.

      But I am studying Indonesian at university, so I use it to put a little more discipline into my Indonesian reading. I find on lingq that I tend to skim over unknown words.

      The most important thing is that the SRS review is to supplement the reading, and not the other way around

      June 17 at 01:05
  • khardy us United States

    I have no flippin' idea how many lingqs are in my list. Never look at it. Maybe it would help to review the lingqs in a lesson immediately after finishing it (I did when first starting), but I mostly just want to move on and read more without bothering with that.

    So where can that kind of attitude get you? Pretty far, I guess -- I have well over 60k Russian "words". Mind you, that's a highly inflected language (I can make ~80 "words" from a single verb), so divide by plenty to compare to some other languages. Yet, I can read the news mostly unassisted and freely listen to a lot of YouTube content. Thanks, Lingq!

    I've not concentrated on output, and maybe putting some focus on lingq review could help me pull up the right word when needed, but I don't know.

    June 14 at 20:50
  • evgueny40 ru Russian Federation

    I can understand you very well, Andreahill.

    I hate any kind of pressure!..

    I hate any form od charts or diagrams!

    That's why I just ignore all daily or monthly goals in my beloved language study!

    I just enjoy my immersion in my target languages.

    Some days I can do very much, some days I do nothing.

    I don't worry about it, not at all!

    When you would like to repeat your lingqs, do it.

    When you don't like to repeat your lingqs, don't do it.

    Nobody can force you doing it!

    The most popular words will be repeated in different new texts and you can gradulally remember them, without any stupid drill!

    Your results don't depend on the quantity of your learned Lingqs.

    You results depend on the time of the immersion in your new language and on your happiness because of your gradual understanding of new words and new culture!

    But don't be in hurry on your long, but exciting way of magnificent language study!

    June 17 at 09:06