New Mini-Stories Courses
Hello! I would like to help add mini-stories in my native language Moroccan Darija. How can I do that? Are the stories available in raw English format that I can work with?
(It seems that the modern Hebrew stories do not show up on the guided course feed. Just FYI)
Any updates on the Esperanto ones?
I would like to have any more volunteers. I am not an expert in Esperanto but I will try to continue (but I don't know when because all my thoughts are dedicated on stopping violence in Belarus and on requesting sanctions against the cruel dictator Lukashenko who finally lost the presidential elections).
@Zoran, do we have any more Esperanto volunteers?
Not at the moment, sorry.
Any further update on the Finnish Mini-Stories?
@zoran I recently read this page https://www.lingq.com/newlanguage/ and am considering studying a language that is not currently supported here on Lingq. (For example, Tagalog or Swahili.)
Do I understand correctly that if I want to have those languages supported here on Lingq, I could have that done by simply obtaining high-quality (perhaps professional) translations of the 60 mini-stories as well as native-speaker audio recordings of those stories?
And that by providing that content to the team at Lingq, you would then be willing to add the language as a "Beta?"
I would be curious on that as well, since I would be interested in translating some, though not all, stories to Ancient Greek.
Just checking for Finnish mini stories. Any update?
Will Hindi be added soon? There's so much internet content in Hindi, so it's a shame it's not supported on here yet
Will be added after we launch LingQ 5.0 version. Before that, we won't be adding new languages.
This is very useful!! Glad to have this~
What about Burmese? Any volunteer so far? How much longer before Thai comes up? And what about Vietnamese?
We have been slowly chipping away at the Latvian mini stories. We've translated the first 30 now. Should we send them in?
Has anyone volunteered to do Klingon yet?
No, nothing in that language so far.
I was looking into this a while ago - a fellow LingQ user was going to try asking on the Facebook forum, and I put up a request on Reddit, and in response, Reddit user 'Kahless' actually put up a Klingon translation of the first mini story - but explained that many of the words in the story were things that he had to backform himself, since they did not yet officially exist in Klingon. I'm sure you're probably aware, since you are asking the question, but for anyone else reading this, the Klingonist community is very concerned about canonicity - only Mark Okrand may produce new official Klingon vocabulary (not a rule that Okrand himself ever came up with or insisted on, but one which the community has decided to uphold, presumably on the basis that that means that there is an unambiguous shared pool of vocabulary that all Klingonists can find without too much difficulty), and the language is far from complete, since creating the Klingon language is only an occasional project for Okrand, so unless and until the missing words from the mini stories can be brought into existence by the creator of the language, it would be impossible to create a translation that the Klingonist community would consider valid.
Possible solutions: 1) identify all the words in the Mini Stories that do not yet have Klingon translations, and persuade Mark Okrand to create translations of all of those words (conceivable - he does sometimes oblige the enthusiasts by bringing along lists of translations of most-requested words when he goes to the qepHom or qep'a' meet-ups), and then get someone to translate the stories using those words;
2) Get someone who already speaks Klingon to produce a set of 60 stories in the same sort of style as the mini stories, but only using vocabulary that already exists in Klingon, and persuade the LingQ staff to add Klingon as a supported language on the basis of that. Probability - I expect that adding a niche conlang would be very low on LingQ's priority list, but if they were willing to agree in principle, it probably wouldn't be too difficult to persuade existing Klingon speakers to create the materials. I noticed that DuoLingo's Klingon course is about twice the size of their newly-added Finnish course, which may by a good indicator of the level of dedication one could expect people to put into the project of expanding the opportunities to learn it, but on the other hand, there is not yet a good machine translation tool for Klingon. LingQ will presumably not want to go to the effort of creating a whole Google Translate style module, although I believe that the boQwI' app will parse down individual words, so it may be that you could effectively have an on-board dictionary but not an onboard autotranslate for phrases of more than one word. But on the other other hand, Klingon grammar, though consciously designed to be as unlike any Earthly languages as possible, is nonetheless extremely regular, so possibly the task of creating a machine translation tool would not be that hard, it's just that no one has yet done it.
probably going to turn out to be an unpopular opinion but I think it detracts from lingqs status and credibility somewhat. Learning a few whimsical phrases on duolingo can be fun but lingq is all about fluency and although there are many beta languages with minimal content provided by lingq the content is out there on the web and the assumed anticipation is that all these will eventually get filled no matter how long it takes. How much realistically is there in klingon? what news feeds can you use? lingq is not a vehicle for ministories in hundreds of languages but meant to be a really effective and serious tool.
Well, the fact that Esperanto is available should tell you something. I don't see how Klingon couldn't be the next in line.
Well, I believe that Klingon is one of the most fully-developed artlangs around, and certainly the one that has the most speakers - I understand that at last estimate there are something like twenty fully fluent speakers and a few hundred conversational speakers, which puts it in the same sort of ballpark as 'endangered Native American tribe's ancestral language that there are still a few elderly native speakers of, with a narrow window of opportunity to teach the next generation of toddlers before it goes extinct, and I don't expect anyone would find it beneath the dignity of the site if they somehow got, say, Chickasaw or Kwakiutl on here despite the paucity of written resources in those languages. Unless Klingon is just inherently low-status as a result of being spoken only by the extra-nerdy intersection of sci-fi nerds and language nerds?
But at any rate, you can, if you wish, read Hamlet, or The Little Prince, or the Epic of Gilgamesh, or a few other well known works in Klingon; it's a fully grammatically developed language, it just doesn't happen to have a fully developed vocabulary as yet.
thank you for the letting me know about the first story that's out there. I've printed it and studied the lesson.
Could someone add Icelandic to the growing list of languages provided by LingQ?
How is Norwegian coming? Have you found a volunteer yet? At what point would you consider hiring someone to do Norwegian mini-stories? I have been asking this for over a year. Thanks.
Have y'all ever paid anyone to do the mini stories or is it all volunteer-based? If it's the former I think y'all should get someone to do Hindi, because it's the language with the most speakers that you don't have.
@Zoran When will the last 30 Hungarian mini-stories be uploaded?
@DocT All 60 Hungarian stories are up now.
Why is there only 1 new Dutch mini-story added (lesson 21)? Three weeks ago, a message was posted that all the Dutch mini-stories were completed and would be posted two weeks ago.
I had to do audio optimization so it took longer than expected. Started loading them now, all 60 will be up within a day or two.
For what it's worth, I just bought a copy of Waves Audio's Z Noise plugin, for removing background hum and noise from audio recordings. If there are any audio recordings which have particularly bad background noise (as long as it is more-or-less continuous, like electronic hum, fan noise etc, as opposed to intermittent like traffic or other people talking in the background), I could have a go at running them through that.
Or if you are interested, they have it on sale at the moment for $29 with the coupon code so that you can run it yourself if you're doing lots of these:
Any updates on the 15 remaining french mini stories?
Hey, could you add some Albanian mini-stories?
We don't have anything in Albanian so far.
Ok, and when do you think is going to be available?
where is the vietnamese mine-stories?
Could you organize the list of languages in alphabetical order, please?
Is Thai coming up in 2020?
OK, I'll edit the top post in a bit. Thanks for your suggestion.
Thai is coming in 2020, we already have some stories delivered for it and I expect to have it available probably before summer.
thank you dear
Any update on Finnish mini stories? Thanks
I've now got the raw audio of stories 9 to 14; still need to edit them. Hopefully have time in the next couple of weeks.
Kiitos paljon. Muchly appreciated
Every time I watch Steve's videos he emphasizes the value in the Mini-Stories. It is good to see that the list is getting pretty long,. I see that you have Swedish and Danish now. How is Norwegian coming along?
No much progress with Norwegian so far I am afraid.
It would be interesting if european portuguese could get more than 30 mini stories.
@bull We have all 60 stories done in European Portuguese. They were delivered a few days ago and I will put them on the site soon.
Thank you very much
Are there were European Portuguese stories?
I see all 60 Brazilian but only 30 European.
@serge_shadrin Rest of European Portuguese stories are coming really soon. I'll have stories 31-60 loaded soon. I hope the same for European Spanish version too.
Have you already solved the problem with the French stories?
@bull We have a person working on last 15 French stories and we should have them available soon.
@zoran, Any update on when the remaining 15 French stories will be available?
@JFC I will load them up before next Wednesday.
French stories 46-60 are now up.
Hi Zoran. I just discovered that there are no 31-40 stories for Brazilian Portuguese. Any chance to get them anytime soon?
@serge_shadrin Yeah, we should definitely complete those too. I'll find someone to finish them. Thanks for the reminder!
Is there any chance to get full 60 mini-stories on both Brazilian and European Portuguese soon?
@serge_shadrin All 60 stories are now available for both European and Brazilian Portuguese. Check them out! :)
I have been practicing Spanish currently. Lots of listening practice is necessary if I want to understand the spoken language. I use these resources . They are pretty useful
A few updates here:
- Good news, German and Korean are now finally complete and you can find all 60 stories for these two languages available in the Library.
- Since my latest update, Serbian was also completed.
- More Dutch stories added. I expect all 60 done here too within next month.
- Hungarian was added in Beta and I started uploading Hungarian stories too. All 60 will be up within next few days.
- Next in line for uploading are Scandinavian languages. I received new stories in Swedish, Danish and Finnish and will start uploading them.
- Croatian Mini Stories are also coming within next few days - all 60!
I hoped somebody wants to continue translating into Esperanto...
I do actually have one new volunteer for Esperanto. We will see if he will deliver something soon!
I am currently sitting on audio for the first 7 Finnish stories; hopefully will have time to edit them this weekend, and ideally meet up again with my friend in Edinburgh for another batch in November. Which ones have you got already? If they are from someone who can do more of them sooner than that, it may be worth asking if they would be willing to - although, if you would be willing to send me the ones you've got, I can normalise them to the same volume as the ones my friend did (and indeed, compare the audio quality - if I was able to get better sound quality than the other person, then it might be worth waiting till my friend can do another batch, even if it takes a little longer).
So far I actually have transcription for stories 1-51, no audios yet. So if you are working on audios at the moment, that's great.
Hopefully Norwegian too!
Great! Croatian is up? Dutch is up? Thank you
I hope Lithuanian will be added soon!
That'd be awesome! We are working on Latvian now. Got about half of them done
That's really good news. I've been aching to see Latvian content for a long time now.
Steve mentioned a few times during his workouts that there is someone recording mini-stories in Hungarian. Just out of curiosity how far along is that?
That's a friend of mine, actually, albeit one I don't see very often. Last I heard from her, in late March, she said she was making headway, and thought that she might have them done in a month or so, so hopefully we will hear something soon.
We have 10 stories in Hungarian delivered so far.
Any update on Norwegian?
Unfortunately not. I will be posting updates here regularly whenever I upload new lessons.
First 10 European Portuguese Mini Stories are now up, and more to come soon.
It's not easy finding materials in European Portuguese . So this is highly appreciated.
Brilliant. Thank you! These are really useful and seem just what I needed to give me some structure. :) please let us know when the rest go up. :) thank you!!
Hi Zoran... i'm loving the European Portuguese Mini Stories, and they've given my language learning motivation a good kick start again! The lady's voice is really clear and the recordings are excellent. Do you know when the next set will be ready for use? I'm working my way through and woudl like to be able to continue with them, if possible.
Perfect timing to ask! I just got more stories today and later today they will be up on the site.
Just in case it is easier to ping you a message here than by putting up a top-level post, or by email, I was wanting to ask if you were still wanting people to compose new original mini-stories so as to expand the set? I could have a go at writing some, if you don't already have people working on it.
that's brillliant - than kyou, Zoran! I look forward to working through them. :)
Been doing some of these, what an amazing resource, thank you Zoran and everybody at lingq
I have to agree. I reach a conversational level faster when I focus on mini-stories at the beginning. I am now using the mini-stories (which I am very familiar with by now!) to focus on points of grammar in Russian and Ukrainian. We'll see how it turns out.
Why there are only 10 stories in Danish? Are there any plans to have more?
We will add more as soon as we get more stories. If you are from Denmark and are interested to help, let me know! - zoran(at)lingq.com
Are there any mini stories coming for Finnish in the near future? :)
Hopefully! I am chasing people to have Swedish done first, and then I'll focus more on Finnish and Norwegian.
Have you already got volunteers for Finnish? I have a couple of friends who might be willing to help if I ask them nicely.
Ok! Thanks for the response! Swedish is my native language so cool that you're doing that! Looking forward to Finnish in the future then! :)
Looking forward to the German series of mini stories being completed. There are only about 25 in total (and in random order); to have a Beta Language 40 are needed!? These stories are a much heralded by Steve on youtube, perhaps something could be done to get these in order or to add the missing ones.
Well German has tons of other content available, but we do need to have minimum 40 or even all 60 Mini Stories completed when adding new language to Beta.
More German stories are work in progress and will be completed in the near future.
Thanks great job. Looking forward to see mini stories in Finnish.DeleteEdit
More Cantonese soon?
Yes, I'll upload more within next 3-4 days. Cantonese and some other languages too.
We don't have anything in Norwegian yet, sorry.
Hi Zoran - are you still on track for the European Portuguese? Is there any chance you could put some of them up sooner, and add the rest later? Many thansk,
Hello Zoran, you are doing a great work, and it's highly appreciated. I'm like James , I'd like to see the mini stories in European Portuguese.,,,,,,,,,,thank you
@jameskirby @SaudiMike We are currently looking to hire someone to take care of European Portuguese version of Mini Stories. I hope to hire someone during the weekend, and hopefully in 10-15 days we will have first European Portuguese stories up on the site. I'll do my best to make it as fast as possible.
Brilliant. Thank you for the update, Zoran
The Turkish mini stories look GREAT! I won't try the Portuguese ones because they are in the Brazilian Portuguese version which is unfortunately not spoken in Coimbra, etc. I will be retiring to Portugal. Please advise if/when the European version is developed. Obrigado.
All 3 levels in Polish are now up! Perfect quality audio, hope you guys will enjoy it.
Later today more of Chinese and German.
Thanks for posting these stories, Zoran. The audio quality is amazing. However, I just noticed two spelling errors in Story 21. Spawdził instead of sprawdził and nowey instead of nowy. Should I correct any spelling errors I see in the 'Edit' menu? Nevertheless, the audio is correct.
The audio quality of the new Polish stories is wonderful. I have already gone through a lot of them to correct run on words and typos. I am sure there are more. I would ask anyone noticing these errors to correct them or bring them our notice. This does not detract that much from the enjoyment of the series and we should have the problem under control soon. I am going to go in and look for more errors in an hour or so.
Thank you all for the effort, specially Zoran for coordinating the project. These mini stories are great! And it is really helpful to compare them between languages.
Yes, I was a bit sceptical in the beginning of the project, but the possibility to compare the mini-stories between different languages is great and very helpful.
Thanks a lot, Zoran and Steve!
The quality of the Czech stories, the narration, the sound, all are excellent. Thank you. Thank you. Can't wait to refresh my Czech and use these to get at some issues of grammar, and very common vocabulary that always give me trouble. And now back to Arabic, a lot tougher sledding!!
The Italian stories are great but compared with Spanish I have noticed the Spanish lessons have some explanations which are not available in Italian! Thank you very much!
In time we hope to introduce grammar explanations for all of these stories.If anyone wants to help out, please let me know.
Thanks for updating here, Zoran!! Most helpful!
Would it be possible for you to edit the first post of this thread and put links to all the different mini story projects found throughout this thread? That would be very useful and would let us have a better overview of what has been produced and what is available here in each language.
Thanks again for all your hard work on the project, Zoran and company!
Or even give us a link at the top of this thread to each of the series of mini stories in Each language. In particular for me: is Chinese in the process of getting past the first ten stories?
@Ginkgo58 I've just uploaded Chinese Mini Stories 11-25. 10 more stories coming soon!
@gregf That's good suggestion, thanks! I'll edit the first post and include all Mini Stories in all languages there. Lot of new Mini Stories added lately!
Thank you zoran, the list is very helpful!
The Swedish stories are great. The reader has a nice voice!