April 27, 2011, 6:44 p.m.
I agree with you there. The reason you don't fly with an unqualified pilot is because you may die. A bit extreme I know. However, if you wanted to learn a foreign language, one the first people you will turn to is someone who has already learnt one. Being a qualified linguist or not is completely irrelevant; I believe it is experience in language acquisition which matters most.
If I am not mistaken, he is saying that Steve's approach is not for serious stuff, but since Benny took his C1 for German, his approach is for serious stuff?
But apart from the C1 German exam (which I think he failed), he is not aiming at mastering any of the languages his is learning. He actually makes this claim explicitly. So what is this guy talking about?
Also, I am often confused about what Benny really wants his followers to do. Steve wants his to use LingQ or follow the intensive input approach. Other language product makers want their customers to go through their courses. but does Benny really want his followers to travel the world like him to learn languages?
April 27, 2011, 6:47 p.m.
Linguist: n. Person skilled in foreign languages.
That's from the Concise Oxford Dictionary, according to Steve's book. So, in that respect, this Christophe guy is wrong.
April 27, 2011, 6:49 p.m.
Definitely. That's why I put this video on here. He clearly puts his opinion across very well.
April 27, 2011, 7:02 p.m.
The guy in this youtube video seems to be completely full of c***!
He defends Benny on the grounds that he took a C2 exam in German. I didn't bother watching any further than this, because he seems completely ignorant of the actual facts, which are:
a.) Benny was NOT starting German from scratch as he had tried to claim. (In reality he had taken German at school.)
b.) Benny had several months worth of full-time immersion classes in German before sitting the exam.
c.) Benny failed the exam!
Point (c.) kind of does it for me. Giving Benny praise for failing a C2-exam in German is a bit like saying that a guy is a really great driver because, hey, he just failed his freaking driving test!!
April 27, 2011, 7:08 p.m.
@JayB: He does say that Benny took German at school and that you can't rely on the 3 months title. Did you see the video about FSI materials? Christophe uses the analogy of the driver as well, albeit in a slightly different way.
April 27, 2011, 7:11 p.m.
Obviously, Christophe is sided with Benny. I worry that he will later become disappointed when he finds out Benny is just a language tourist.
Sometimes I feel sorry for those academic linguists. They spend so much time on languages, but could not speak any of them.
Even if they spoke 20 -- they are studying several thousands of them, so it would still be an infinitely small proportion. Not all plane mechanics fly planes, and there is no reason to feel sad for them.
Most academic linguistics do in fact speak foreign languages - but that is not the point of the discipline.
I studied linguistics and the subject of how to go about learning a foreign language never came up. It's important not to confuse theoretical linguistics with "applied linguistics" or traditional language study - like comparative and historical linguistics.
I also tried to leave a comment to Clugston's video, with the dictionary definition of "eschew". Clugston uses it to mean "promote" when it means the opposite.
[es-choo] Show IPA
–verb (used with object)
to abstain or keep away from; shun; avoid: to eschew evil.
My comment was awaiting authorization, but now has disappeared. Maybe it is just delayed.
April 28, 2011, 3:55 a.m.
But I definitely agree with the next part. You don't need to be an expert in linguistics to offer advice on language learning.
April 28, 2011, 5:22 a.m.